Leaving a job I have just started

Leaving a job I have just started

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sparks_E39

12,738 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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RWD cossie wil said:
How much does a teacher get paid these days? It always seems like a hell of a lot of work for not much £££!
A mate of mine is newly qualified and on £30k, so I'd say pretty good considering all the time off he gets.

Sheepshanks

32,533 posts

118 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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sparks_E39 said:
RWD cossie wil said:
How much does a teacher get paid these days? It always seems like a hell of a lot of work for not much £££!
A mate of mine is newly qualified and on £30k, so I'd say pretty good considering all the time off he gets.
Is he/she on some sort of special scheme? Standard NQT salary is £22,244.

Simes205

4,528 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Or inner London plus tlr?

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
sparks_E39 said:
RWD cossie wil said:
How much does a teacher get paid these days? It always seems like a hell of a lot of work for not much £££!
A mate of mine is newly qualified and on £30k, so I'd say pretty good considering all the time off he gets.
Is he/she on some sort of special scheme? Standard NQT salary is £22,244.
When I say newly qualified I mean in the last couple of years, he's head of a department- maths I think.

Sheepshanks

32,533 posts

118 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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sparks_E39 said:
When I say newly qualified I mean in the last couple of years, he's head of a department- maths I think.
rolleyes NQT is normally a teacher just finished training and in their first year of teaching.

I think you still can't have his job right - HOD would generally be on more than that, and especially for maths.


Simes205

4,528 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Maths is normally tlr 1.
All teachers payscales are available for view online

Wanchaiwarrior

364 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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sparks_E39 said:
RWD cossie wil said:
How much does a teacher get paid these days? It always seems like a hell of a lot of work for not much £££!
A mate of mine is newly qualified and on £30k, so I'd say pretty good considering all the time off he gets.
Or another way to look at it is

Roughly 40 teaching weeks in a year, at an average 12hrs a day for teaching/planning/marking/meetings/sports events/parent teacher meetings.
At least a half day over the term weekends.
Longer at busy times of the year.

Paid for 5 hours a day for 52 weeks a year.

And its been the same in three countries.

HTH

scrubchub

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1,844 posts

139 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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RWD cossie wil said:
How much does a teacher get paid these days? It always seems like a hell of a lot of work for not much £££!
Sounds about right. I'm on £22,224 to be exact. As said earlier in the thread it's a fair bit less than what I was on doing supply and some guitar lessons.

scrubchub

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1,844 posts

139 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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130R said:
t's really not your problem, you have been in the job a week. You just need to do your best and listen to any advice you are given about what the inspectors are looking for in advance.

You are a primary school teacher, not designing a nuclear reactor containment system. I think you just need to relax a little bit.
Fair comment! Come to realise that the last couple of weeks.

Anyway, going to stick with it until Christmas and see how it goes. Contract is up 31st December but I don't think they are expecting the guy I'm covering to come back.

There's been a couple of older male teachers in the school on supply, both of which I've seen in schools before. Both are out of full time jobs by choice as their just sick of the job/career so are doing supply mixed with other things (one was a rowing and archery instructor) and both say they are much happier for it.

Edited by scrubchub on Wednesday 14th September 21:16

elanfan

5,516 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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How are you getting on fella? Hope that your initial worries are in the past and that your confidence is growing.

scrubchub

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1,844 posts

139 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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elanfan said:
How are
you getting on fella? Hope that your initial worries are in the past and that your confidence is growing.
Christ, sorry I missed this! Yes I'm still there, almost made it to half term. Slowly getting to grips with things. We've had the local authority in at the heads request to give us a bit of a pre inspection evaluation which went well and I've had my first NQT observation that also went really well (with some excellent constructive criticism of course). The head actually referenced something she saw in my teaching during a staff meeting as an example of 'model questioning technique' which was a nice confidence boost haha!

As expected, the person I am covering for will not be returning so they have to advertise the job which they will do in time to hire someone in the new year. They're cutting it fine - I thought that a teacher had to give a half terms notice if they are leaving so they won't get a huge number of applicants. I think the school is strapped for cash though so I'd guess they are hoping for a cheap NQT like myself who probably won't be in employment yet.

I don't think I'll be applying. I don't want to commit to a permament position at this point in time - with a new baby the flexibility that supply offers is ideal. I haven't told them that yet as I don't see the need to commit to that course of action yet and as they need to advertise and formally interview candidates regardless I'm not messing them around by playing it by ear for a while. I also stand by what I said that I don't think it is the right school for me permanently either. I have another 4 years to complete my NQT year so there's some felxibilty there but it is playing on my mind. Ideally there won't be any suitable candidates so there'll keep me on until the summer which would be ideal!

Enjoying the teaching, as always, but the paperwork is a nightmare. Children making progress, so that's the main thing.