Redundancy

[Younez]

My department has relocated from London to Edinburgh. I did not wish to relocate so my manager kindly offered me an alternative role to keep me in London which is a step down in terms of level and challenge. I am not interested in the role at all, if I declined it would I still be entitled to redundancy? My manager seemed to think as they are offering a role I may not be entitled to it?

[oldcynic]

Are they offering you the same pay and conditions?

[Younez]

Yes same pay, same desk, no new contract

[Jasandjules]

As above, a job must be a reasonable alternative. This is dependent upon the facts.

[edc]

On the face of it it all sounds more than reasonable. Same pay, same hours and T&Cs. Very little material detriment.

[4x4Tyke]

I agree that the company seems to met its obligations and with pretty good grace. Consider it a win.

[MitchT]

Same pay and desk but less challenging? Seems fine. If you want a greater challenge you can always look for alternative employment. A less challenging role at least means you should have more time and energy available to do this.

[Gargamel]

If it is a material change in role level then that could trigger redundancy.

So if you managed a team of people, but won't in the new role. or if you were called Head of .. in your title but this one is just manger. Essentially a change of level, including your reporting line, could trigger redundancy. regardless of same pay.

Additionally if your previous role has been offered to you ,ore than 25 miles from your current location and they have hired someone to do your old job, then that is enough to trigger redundancy,

Speak to an employment lawyer.

[Jasandjules]

Ah I see you posted at the same time I did.

Same money is surely a bonus which you can then mooch along in the new position before finding another job?

Or is your aim to obtain a redundancy payment?

[andy-xr]

Do you really want to trigger redundancy though? Because if they pull the statutory min redundancy card' it's probably not going to be worth it financially or the hassle it'll create.

If career progression is something that's important to you, and you arent going to get it, I dont think a redundancy process, if it goes for statutory, is going to be a win for everyone on this