Uncovered Tattoos and work.

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Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Of course they don't , it's fashion innit. Chelseeann down the salon's got a full sleeve, so I want a full sleeve.

WD39

20,083 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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xjay1337 said:
I have 2 largeish arm pieces and never been a problem
I would suggest that, regarding tattoos it is what people are thinking, not what they are saying or doing.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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darren9 said:
I'm planning on some more work when I have the time/money.
This is the part I don't get, the need to keep having more and more done.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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WD39 said:
xjay1337 said:
I have 2 largeish arm pieces and never been a problem
I would suggest that, regarding tattoos it is what people are thinking, not what they are saying or doing.
This. yes

I know I must be wrong but my mind tells me that people with tattoos are obviously stupid.

I never have and never would knowingly employ anybody with anything larger than a very small tattoo.

Sorry but that's just me.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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bad company said:
WD39 said:
xjay1337 said:
I have 2 largeish arm pieces and never been a problem
I would suggest that, regarding tattoos it is what people are thinking, not what they are saying or doing.
This. yes

I know I must be wrong but my mind tells me that people with tattoos are obviously stupid.

I never have and never would knowingly employ anybody with anything larger than a very small tattoo.

Sorry but that's just me.
Unless you ask them to remove their clothes at interview... how would you know ?



this highly qualified perfect employee for your business could have every inch of his/her/binary/non binary/other/etc body tattooed. would you ask to confirm if they have tattoos and to show you if they do ? and then reject this perfect employee just because of a tattoo ?

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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SystemParanoia said:
this highly qualified perfect employee for your business could have every inch of his/her/binary/non binary/other/etc body tattooed. would you ask to confirm if they have tattoos and to show you if they do ? and then reject this perfect employee just because of a tattoo ?
Well if my business was dealing with children with psychological problems then I probably would.
You wouldn't want this guy popping in to say hello


SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Zoon said:
SystemParanoia said:
this highly qualified perfect employee for your business could have every inch of his/her/binary/non binary/other/etc body tattooed. would you ask to confirm if they have tattoos and to show you if they do ? and then reject this perfect employee just because of a tattoo ?
Well if my business was dealing with children with psychological problems then I probably would.
You wouldn't want this guy popping in to say hello

he's probably a laugh, and children that feel themselves to be different/outcasts may bond with him better than some self important hipster
Kids dont care about this stuff, and if they did at first.. they wouldn't for long.. it would just be normal to see him about

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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SystemParanoia said:
he's probably a laugh, and children that feel themselves to be different/outcasts may bond with him better than some self important hipster
Kids dont care about this stuff, and if they did at first.. they wouldn't for long.. it would just be normal to see him about
I'd say a highly distressed child would be terrified when faced with someone like that.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Zoon said:
I'd say a highly distressed child would be terrified when faced with someone like that.
mumsnet dont seem to have a problem

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/preschool/1798477-Pres...

nor do netmums

http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/children-parent...

babycentre also have no problem

http://community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a13271625/w...

also a very sensible discussion at CYC ( The field of Child and Youth Care )

http://www.cyc-net.org/threads/tattoos.html

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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bad company said:
WD39 said:
xjay1337 said:
I have 2 largeish arm pieces and never been a problem
I would suggest that, regarding tattoos it is what people are thinking, not what they are saying or doing.
This. yes

I know I must be wrong but my mind tells me that people with tattoos are obviously stupid.

I never have and never would knowingly employ anybody with anything larger than a very small tattoo.

Sorry but that's just me.
Well it's a good thing I don't work for you then, isn't it?

My tattoos do not effect my ability to do my job, are not offensive (they're quite feminine if anything).

GG for stereotyping.

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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xjay1337 said:
Well it's a good thing I don't work for you then, isn't it?

My tattoos do not effect my ability to do my job, are not offensive (they're quite feminine if anything).

GG for stereotyping.
It depends on what work you do. If you were, say, a waiter in a restaurant, or a teacher, or a lawyer in a court, I think most people would still find it 'odd' if you were heavily tattooed on your face/neck. If you're working as a car mechanic, in a factory, or on a construction site then it wouldn't have the same impact.

Pooh

3,692 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I have two staff with tattoos on their upper arms, they are both young and good at their jobs but they are both in customer facing roles and I would not have hired them if the tattoos where in a position where they could not be easily covered.
why? because my customer base is predominantly 55+ and tattoos are not generally well regarded by this age group.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Robertj21a said:
It depends on what work you do. If you were, say, a waiter in a restaurant, or a teacher, or a lawyer in a court, I think most people would still find it 'odd' if you were heavily tattooed on your face/neck. If you're working as a car mechanic, in a factory, or on a construction site then it wouldn't have the same impact.
That's fair enough.

A few arm tattoos on my forearm.

I work in IT. Client facing.

popeyewhite

19,863 posts

120 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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SystemParanoia said:
he's probably a laugh, and children that feel themselves to be different/outcasts may bond with him better than some self important hipster
Kids dont care about this stuff, and if they did at first.. they wouldn't for long.. it would just be normal to see him about
The above may well be true - because basically the guy looks pretty normal, despite some colouring and jewelry. Where children and adults get scared is when they are confronted by something that looks like it could be human but its major features are somehow exaggerated or kind of wrong - such as clowns. They fall into this category and psychological research puts them in the 'uncanny valley'. This refers to a part of a graph showing recognition of human shapes and it's why clowns are so scary!

WD39

20,083 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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xjay1337 said:
bad company said:
WD39 said:
xjay1337 said:
I have 2 largeish arm pieces and never been a problem
I would suggest that, regarding tattoos it is what people are thinking, not what they are saying or doing.
This. yes

I know I must be wrong but my mind tells me that people with tattoos are obviously stupid.

I never have and never would knowingly employ anybody with anything larger than a very small tattoo.

Sorry but that's just me.
Well it's a good thing I don't work for you then, isn't it?

My tattoos do not effect my ability to do my job, are not offensive (they're quite feminine if anything).

GG for stereotyping.
But what is everybody thinking?

I realise that this is impossible to ascertain, but I would not want my colleagues thinking 'Tool'

as I appeared at work with tattoos hanging out all over.

Let's be honest here, Tattoos. They are just plain wrong.

'Regrets, I've had a few...'

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Sorry i disagree. I dont regret* my tattoos at all. If other people want to tell me that I'll regret them, so bet it. They can talk to the back of my head because i certainly wouldn't be talking to their face.

  • edit, typo, sorry.
Edited by xjay1337 on Friday 30th September 09:09

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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How does that old saying go? "Perception is reality". Of course ink has no bearing on your ability to do your job or be your real self. Whilst there are large chunks of the population out there who hold alternative views on the wisdom of tattoos, many of them to the extent of prejudice, why take the risk if such people have any influence on your chances in life. That could be making a sale, getting a job offer, being promoted etc etc. I guess if you want a career as a tattoo artist it's obligatory.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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How does that d saying go? "Perception is reality". Of course it has no bearing on your ability to do your job or be your real self. Whilst there are large chunks of the population out there who hold alternative views on the wisdom of tattoos, many of them to the extent of prejudice, why take the risk if such people have any influence on your chances in life. That could be making a sale, getting a job offer, being promoted etc etc. I guess if you want a career as a tattoo artist it' obligatory.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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ChasW said:
How does that d saying go? "Perception is reality". Of course it has no bearing on your ability to do your job or be your real self. Whilst there are large chunks of the population out there who hold alternative views on the wisdom of tattoos, many of them to the extent of prejudice, why take the risk if such people have any influence on your chances in life. That could be making a sale, getting a job offer, being promoted etc etc. I guess if you want a career as a tattoo artist it' obligatory.
That just about sums it up.

When I owned and managed a recruitment business I would often be responsible for initial interviews and compiling a shortlist on behalf of client companies.

Would I have included candidates with visible tattoos on my shortlist? Hmmmm.

Would I told the candidates why they were not successful? Certainly not.

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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It's a difficult one this with modern society being as it is in the UK. Speaking as an employer I am sympathetic to those who have visible tattoos such as on the hand and neck that are looking for work but the bottom line is I work in a mature industry where the way you project yourself really matters.

I couldn't send someone to one of the Islamic countries I deal with who had 'Mum' on one hand and 'Dad' on the other hand, or some sort of script/writing on their neck. You'd just look like another thuggish Westerner.

Even in the most western of all cultures, the USA, there are attitudes to this possibly because of the gang culture there. I have sat at dinner with clients and had them negatively discuss the server because they had tattoos and this has been reflected in the tip they leave.

I went all through my Royal Navy career without getting 'inked' so I agree with the previous poster about seeing plenty of people regret their choices there and perhaps that influenced me.

Should I be interviewing and I have one candidate with no visible tattoos and one with, sadly the second one isn't going to find themselves on a level playing field.