Uncovered Tattoos and work.

[darren9]

I'm a police officer. There seems to be more tattoo'd officers. Put force policy is nothing above the neck/on the neck nothing on the hands and nothing offensive.

I have a crown on my inner forearm with my kids names around it and a star on my inner wrist. I'm wanting a day of the dead sleeve. The only thing stopping me is the cost.

It doesn't affect my work and the public don't seem to mind.

[parabolica]

Zoon said:

Where do you draw the line? Start taking drugs in front of them so they can learn early about life's characters?

Tattoos are not illegal/banned by law. If that's your stance, teachers who smoke and/or drink are just as bad, and there are plenty of those.

[Zoon]

parabolica said:

Tattoos are not illegal/banned by law. If that's your stance, teachers who smoke and/or drink are just as bad, and there are plenty of those.

Exactly, but teachers don't drink and smoke in front of pupils.
Whereas displaying a tattoo in full view gives the impression to kids that it's the right thing to do.
Which I don't think is right. Sure let them make their own choices (and each to his own) but that's my personal opinion.

[parabolica]

Fair point RE them being visible, but I remember seeing plenty of teachers out having a smoke at break time when I was at school (late 90s), and you could tell the ones who liked a drink. Anyway, I can take them or leave them, they don't bother me.

[caelite]

Zoon said:

Exactly, but teachers don't drink and smoke in front of pupils.
Whereas displaying a tattoo in full view gives the impression to kids that it's the right thing to do.
Which I don't think is right. Sure let them make their own choices (and each to his own) but that's my personal opinion.

But whats to say it isnt the right thing to do? There is nothing illegal or immoral about it & plenty of people like the look of them and see it as a way of expressing yourself (normally artsy types). If a kid wants to get a tattoo when he hits the age where he can legally get one himself (16 isnt it?) then all to him.

Have a couple myself in easily concealable places (above ankle & shoulder), wouldnt want to get many more personally for the reason someone stated as they make you 'stand out' and im not really that type of person.

The only time Id have a problem is when its something that could be considered offensive or potentially provokotive on view. I used to work with a girl who got a Celtic/IRA slogan on her wrist/forearm when she was younger and really regretted it because it was a pain to cover up, think she got it removed recently

[48Valves]

wellzee said:

48Valves said:

I would rather my kids be taught by a teacher with tattoos than fat one?

Eh?

48Valves said:

Surely the quality of teaching is most important?

Sorry. I was typing left handed whilst driving and on my other phone.

I'm sure you got the gist of my point. Peopleare up in arms about a person in a position of influence having tattoos, but no one seems to mind obese teachers.

[Zoon]

parabolica said:

Tattoos are not illegal/banned by law. If that's your stance, teachers who smoke and/or drink are just as bad, and there are plenty of those.

They are illegal for people under 18.

[Zoon]

48Valves said:

Sorry. I was typing left handed whilst driving and on my other phone.

I'm sure you got the gist of my point. Peopleare up in arms about a person in a position of influence having tattoos, but no one seems to mind obese teachers.

The difference being that you don't have to get a tattoo.
Some people have illnesses which make them obese, not all of them are fat by choice.
Also fat people can diet and lose weight, tattoos don't fall off with exercise.

[egor110]

Zoon said:

48Valves said:

Sorry. I was typing left handed whilst driving and on my other phone.

I'm sure you got the gist of my point. Peopleare up in arms about a person in a position of influence having tattoos, but no one seems to mind obese teachers.

The difference being that you don't have to get a tattoo.
Some people have illnesses which make them obese, not all of them are fat by choice.
Also fat people can diet and lose weight, tattoos don't fall off with exercise.

Most people are obese though because there lazy and make the wrong food choices.

The more obese people we have the more people with type 2 diabetes we have draining the nhs yet i doubt having a tattoo costs the nhs/society a penny.

[daddy cool]

48Valves said:

At least she might have a bit of personality.

Ive never understood how people think that having a tattoo - or a piercing, or dying your hair blue - means you have "more/better personality" than anyone else. Today it seems that having a tattoo is so common that NOT having one actually makes you more unique. And in my experience that people that try so hard to look different through any or those means tend to be some of the most vacuous "look-at-me" types around. Conversely, i love it when i meet a "norm" who looks totally unassuming and they are a cool guy/gal. Personality is from within, and you cant communicate it via instagram selfies.


(Needless to say, i have no tattoos or piercing, and i dont think ive ever seen a girl that looks better with stuff written on her/metal stuck through her than she would have done without)

[egor110]

I don't know anyone who's had a tattoo because they think it's going to make them appear individual or stand out from the crowd.

There reasons are the tattoos are in some way related to something important to them or they simply like the design and plain and simple just wanted it.

Everyone has different perceptions , for instance i think people who wear brown shoes with black trousers or wear jumpers tied around there neck look fking stupid but I'm sure they think there looking good .

[BJG1]

I don't think any company should be allowed such a policy. Who gives a st?

[Rude-boy]

cat with a hat said:

sidicks said:

In think people have the right to have whatever they want on their skin. I also think that employers should be able to choose not to employ people who don't present what is considered the appropriate image for their company.

This.

And again.

I don't have a problem with people who want to have tattoos, just don't think that because it is your right to have as many tattoos and piercings wherever you want on your body that it should be my obligation to consider you for employment.

I am aware of a few people in the office who have tattoos but they are all either the rose/dolphin on the foot or would be covered by their work attire.

People need to remember that tattoos are a personal choice, and when we make choices there are always consequences that we can't always be 100% in control of.

[Robertj21a]

BJG1 said:

I don't think any company should be allowed such a policy. Who gives a st?

Plenty of others. In a people-facing environment the employer needs to consider what is acceptable to their typical customer.

[daddy cool]

egor110 said:

I don't know anyone who's had a tattoo because they think it's going to make them appear individual or stand out from the crowd.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24296713
"A 2012 study found that personality differences between tattooed and non-tattooed individuals were "generally small" although those with tattoos tended to be more extroverted and display a greater "need for uniqueness". "It seems to be predominantly about the idea that you feel unique as an individual," says Swami. "People get tattoos for all sorts of reasons but that's the underlying one."

In other words: LOOK AT ME!

[BJG1]

Robertj21a said:

BJG1 said:

I don't think any company should be allowed such a policy. Who gives a st?

Plenty of others. In a people-facing environment the employer needs to consider what is acceptable to their typical customer.

I think that employers are too likely to err on the side of caution where their worries are unfounded. If the performance of the individual is affected (e.g. a salesman can't meet his targets because customers won't talk to him) then they can be dismissed.

[48Valves]

Zoon said:

48Valves said:

Sorry. I was typing left handed whilst driving and on my other phone.

I'm sure you got the gist of my point. Peopleare up in arms about a person in a position of influence having tattoos, but no one seems to mind obese teachers.

The difference being that you don't have to get a tattoo.
Some people have illnesses which make them obese, not all of them are fat by choice.
Also fat people can diet and lose weight, tattoos don't fall off with exercise.

[sideways sid]

Zoon said:

48Valves said:

Surely the quality of teaching is most important?
At least she might have a bit of personality. Which has got to be better than generic boring teachers.

Life is full of different characters. Is it not better that kids get used to this early?

I would rather my kids be taught by a teacher with tattoos than fat one?

It's the position of influence that's the problem.
Kids see a person with authority with loads of tattoos and then think it's a good idea to do the same.
Where do you draw the line? Start taking drugs in front of them so they can learn early about life's characters?

Personally. I think they are dreadful.

Yes, because every pupil wants to look like their teacher!

[parabolica]

Zoon said:

parabolica said:

Tattoos are not illegal/banned by law. If that's your stance, teachers who smoke and/or drink are just as bad, and there are plenty of those.

They are illegal for people under 18.

Yeah, but so is drinking and smoking, hence my original point.

[egor110]

parabolica said:

Zoon said:

parabolica said:

Tattoos are not illegal/banned by law. If that's your stance, teachers who smoke and/or drink are just as bad, and there are plenty of those.

They are illegal for people under 18.

Yeah, but so is drinking and smoking, hence my original point.

For children over eating and smoking are bigger dangers so maybe we should get rid of teachers who are fat and smoke 1st on our purge?