Career at an end, what now?

[Undirection]

Yes, thanks, that's a good point (about 2 two jobs). TBH I am a bit overly conscious of what people think of me sometimes and this situation does embarrass me, I'll not lie. Today I have been back on it with my CV and I have a couple of other ideas bubbling away (but i am prioritising, rather than doing a bit of everything and achieving nothing.

Also, I do look back on the jobs and look at what I could have done differently even if its doubtful I could have.

[Undirection]

fido said:

Not telling you how to do your job - but did you not create team leaders within the 25 to make it more manageable, as well as being able to shift some responsibility/blame for underperformance in whatever areas they were in charge of?

I pointed this out very early on, it was ridiculous, my feet hardly touched the ground from the moment I got in to the office. They said they'd look at this but in the short term it was all about firefighting and getting them out of the st. Their own fk up but they either didn't realise that or didn't want to admit it.

[BGARK]

battered said:

Steve Campbell said:

crofty1984 said:

Well you can get a job, you proved it. Hope the next one isn't in a stty company, that's all.

THIS? In fact, you got 2 in a year. They just didn't work out as expected. Onwards and upwards !

+1 from me. You have proved that you can deliver.

Sorry to be negative but if he proved he can deliver the companies in question would not want him to leave, good people in any business are like gold dust.

OP - There are two sides to each story, I would try and get the truth out of the MD's in question, some tough love never hurt anyone.

[Undirection]

BGARK said:

Sorry to be negative but if he proved he can deliver the companies in question would not want him to leave, good people in any business are like gold dust.

OP - There are two sides to each story, I would try and get the truth out of the MD's in question, some tough love never hurt anyone.

Indeed, although I've been unlucky I did spend many an hour considering what I could have done differently. I think that if the two companies hadn't have been in the middle of a fairly major issue I'd have still been in both. With the first one I took a job doing something that's not my main area of expertise and so getting to grips with that and dealing with a company in the middle of a huge and poorly planned/executed product launch was far from ideal but I was impressed with their enthusiasm for me and went with it. At that point I didn't realise the situation. Yes, I could have prioritised a bit better and communicated what I was doing better to the MD but I'm not sure that ultimately that was the type of job I wanted.

The second one was a bit of bad timing, I got called in just in time for most of the staff and suppliers to go on hols and then, with targets doubling for 2017 and the business tanking in Jan, added to a big fk up by the agency, it would have been a small miracle to recover marketing from that. Again I could have got some plans in place quicker but the issue was that results were needed immediately and its not always possible with marketing (although sometimes it is)...

All lessons learnt and not to be repeated but yes, I am not saying i couldn't have done something more.

[battered]

BGARK said:

Sorry to be negative but if he proved he can deliver the companies in question would not want him to leave, good people in any business are like gold dust.

Not necessarily, some companies just don't know what they are doing. I'm a consultant, I go everywhere. I have been lucky so far this year and all of last year, I'm getting great results and the client companies are keeping me on doing other stuff. Contrast this with 2015 when I had a selection of bloody idiots who wouldn't know a good result if it knocked them over and people who didn't know what they wanted. Some of that is down to fit, sure, but while it is true that good people are in demand you have to recognise them when you see them.

BGARK said:

OP - There are two sides to each story, I would try and get the truth out of the MD's in question, some tough love never hurt anyone.

That bit is good advice. Nobody gets it right all the time.

[jammy-git]

Undirection - I sent you a PM a few days ago, just wanted to make sure you got it OK?