Big, (for me) Interview on Monday, help appreciated.

Big, (for me) Interview on Monday, help appreciated.

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AdamIndy

1,661 posts

104 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
I have followed your story with some interest. A couple of points, if I may. Unfortunately they are not very positive.

The DVLA didn't ruin your life. They refused to renew your licence.

You have referred a number of times to "the principle and his family". May I suggest you research the different spellings and meanings of the words 'principal and principle'.

Oh, just one more thing, you are overdosing on the emoticons.
Jesus Christ. Really? That is pretty fking low pal. I guess you have never been at rock bottom, I have, it is no fun.

CT, genuinely, best of luck. I have followed your story and I really am rooting for you!woohoo

Don't let the bds grind you down!


elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
I have followed your story with some interest. A couple of points, if I may. Unfortunately they are not very positive.

The DVLA didn't ruin your life. They refused to renew your licence.

You have referred a number of times to "the principle and his family". May I suggest you research the different spellings and meanings of the words 'principal and principle'.

Oh, just one more thing, you are overdosing on the emoticons.
Suggest you change your profile - remove pedantry and substitute - tttery!

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
I have followed your story with some interest. A couple of points, if I may. Unfortunately they are not very positive.

The DVLA didn't ruin your life. They refused to renew your licence.

You have referred a number of times to "the principle and his family". May I suggest you research the different spellings and meanings of the words 'principal and principle'.

Oh, just one more thing, you are overdosing on the emoticons.
johnwilliams77 said:
chilistrucker said:
Thanks and duly noted, indeed my error. I went by the spelling on the job description that was sent to me and I did not pick up on this. I should have.

We are all entitled to our opinions. I feel they have ruined my life, that is my opinion. Had you lived my life for the last 2 years you may, possibly, have some understanding of where I am coming from.
If you get a chance, read the full PHSO report. It's 57 pages long but it may give you a better understanding of quite how badly the DMG/DVLA have failed people like myself with their incompetence and it's all there in black and white.

All opinions welcome but surely you have to have a full understanding of a story before you comment on it.
I'll leave out any emoticons, as it appears you prefer to have no emotions.

The last sentence is in context, so those specific 2 words are correct.
Life is far better when you ignore these type of tossers mate
+ rather a lot. If people have nothing positive to say they should keep it to themselves, the OP has fought a massive uphill battle, have some decency. Perhaps looking up empathy in the dictionary might help, Mr Monk?


Edited by krisdelta on Saturday 26th November 19:07

CharlesdeGaulle

26,268 posts

180 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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krisdelta said:
If people have nothing positive to say they should keep it to themselves, the OP has fought a massive uphill battle, have some decency. Perhaps looking up empathy in the dictionary might help, Mr Monk?
He made a point which was fair enough, and he even noted himself that it wasn't very positive. You're about the gazillionth poster who has taken offence on the OP's behlaf - he himself was good about it so why not give it a rest?

I want to hear more about the job quest!

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
He made a point which was fair enough, and he even noted himself that it wasn't very positive. You're about the gazillionth poster who has taken offence on the OP's behlaf - he himself was good about it so why not give it a rest?
Because he is entitled, like you, to make your opinions / comments as one wishes.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,268 posts

180 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
Because he is entitled, like you, to make your opinions / comments as one wishes.
True enough.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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chilistrucker said:
The Mad Monk said:
I have followed your story with some interest. A couple of points, if I may. Unfortunately they are not very positive.

The DVLA didn't ruin your life. They refused to renew your licence.

You have referred a number of times to "the principle and his family". May I suggest you research the different spellings and meanings of the words 'principal and principle'.

Oh, just one more thing, you are overdosing on the emoticons.
Thanks and duly noted, indeed my error. I went by the spelling on the job description that was sent to me and I did not pick up on this. I should have.

We are all entitled to our opinions. I feel they have ruined my life, that is my opinion. Had you lived my life for the last 2 years you may, possibly, have some understanding of where I am coming from.
If you get a chance, read the full PHSO report. It's 57 pages long but it may give you a better understanding of quite how badly the DMG/DVLA have failed people like myself with their incompetence and it's all there in black and white.

All opinions welcome but surely you have to have a full understanding of a story before you comment on it.
I'll leave out any emoticons, as it appears you prefer to have no emotions.

The last sentence is in context, so those specific 2 words are correct.
Very generous of you to take my comments in that spirit.

Well, sorry about my pedantry in pointing out the spelling mistake.

I don't have time to read a 57 page report. I think sometimes stuff happens and the only thing to do is to keep going.

I wish you and everyone who has taken up the cudgels on your behalf, all the best.

Emoticons? well. obviously you like them. I don't. I can't - and shouldn't control the style of your posts.

I hope you find a position that suits you soon.

chilistrucker

Original Poster:

4,541 posts

151 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
chilistrucker said:
The Mad Monk said:
I have followed your story with some interest. A couple of points, if I may. Unfortunately they are not very positive.

The DVLA didn't ruin your life. They refused to renew your licence.

You have referred a number of times to "the principle and his family". May I suggest you research the different spellings and meanings of the words 'principal and principle'.

Oh, just one more thing, you are overdosing on the emoticons.
Thanks and duly noted, indeed my error. I went by the spelling on the job description that was sent to me and I did not pick up on this. I should have.

We are all entitled to our opinions. I feel they have ruined my life, that is my opinion. Had you lived my life for the last 2 years you may, possibly, have some understanding of where I am coming from.
If you get a chance, read the full PHSO report. It's 57 pages long but it may give you a better understanding of quite how badly the DMG/DVLA have failed people like myself with their incompetence and it's all there in black and white.

All opinions welcome but surely you have to have a full understanding of a story before you comment on it.
I'll leave out any emoticons, as it appears you prefer to have no emotions.

The last sentence is in context, so those specific 2 words are correct.
Very generous of you to take my comments in that spirit.

Well, sorry about my pedantry in pointing out the spelling mistake.

I don't have time to read a 57 page report. I think sometimes stuff happens and the only thing to do is to keep going.

I wish you and everyone who has taken up the cudgels on your behalf, all the best.

Emoticons? well. obviously you like them. I don't. I can't - and shouldn't control the style of your posts.

I hope you find a position that suits you soon.
The report does take a while to get through and is obviously of more interest to some than others.
Indeed sometimes, "stuff" does happen and people do keep going. Unfortunately the "stuff" that happened took away my career and when you've only been in one career your entire working life, it can be quite a challenge to find another especially when you're mid 40's and have no other career experience. Trust me I really have tried. Unfortunately the other careers I may have been ideal for, I could not do and here is why.

I looked at corporate type chauffeur roles and private hire driver roles. The thing is most require either a PCO licence or a private hire licence from the relevant local authority. Now here is the problem these now require a medical with the relevant doctors, this medical is a GROUP 2 medical the exact same medical that is required for the LGV licence. That is the problem, its always been about the GROUP 2 licence and due to the DVLA/DMG rulings I can't in THEIR opinions pass this medical. This is not the opinion of my then neuro consultant and my GP but the DMG continually overruled them. The somewhat mysterious DMG have always stated that in their opinion due to the head injuries I received I am a seizure risk and until I can prove I am less than a 2% seizure risk my licences remain revoked. It's worth noting here that I have never at any stage in my life suffered from any form of seizure but the DMG have always chosen to ignore this, and have never called me in for any form of medical investigation relevant to my case.

Working as a private chauffeur for a private family does not require a group 2 medical hence the reason, thanks to a fellow PH'er that I got my first break in the private chauffeur industry. This was only a summer role but it was a start and great for the experience. When that finished I immediately looked for more of this type of work as I'm reasonably good at it, I like the challenge and the wage is OK. Sadly none of the decent relevant recruitment agencies will touch you until you have 3-5 years experience in the private family sector, so yet another brick wall.

They don't call me Lucky for nothing.

I know I have waffled on yet again, but it is for clarity really to try and show just what you are up against with the DMG/DVLA. That is why the PHSO report is of such importance to me, because now all of a sudden the DVLA/DMG do seem to have an interest in my case, funny that eh?

Mind you a Truck magazine also has an interest in the DVLA/DMG story and have contacted me about this. I'm very much looking forward to the Truck magazines story/findings going to press.

I also hope I find a position that suits me soon, as the thought of remaining in the current rut of van driving for £7.50ph doesn't really appeal that much. I worked bloody hard over the years to get to the top of my game and loved every minute of the rock'n'roll job and the wage and perks that went with it.

If I got my LGV licence back tomorrow there are 3 really nice jobs waiting for me that I could walk straight back into.

It may only be MY opinion, but I'm entitled to it and I will always say that for the last 2 years the DMG/DVLA have indeed ruined my life.
I have after all, lived it.





hidetheelephants

24,371 posts

193 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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chilistrucker said:
Sadly none of the decent relevant recruitment agencies will touch you until you have 3-5 years experience in the private family sector, so yet another brick wall.
Isn't that a bit of a chicken/egg paradox? How do they recruit drivers?

chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

151 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
chilistrucker said:
Sadly none of the decent relevant recruitment agencies will touch you until you have 3-5 years experience in the private family sector, so yet another brick wall.
Isn't that a bit of a chicken/egg paradox? How do they recruit drivers?
Indeed it is, lorry driving was exactly the same when I started in 1993. You needed to be 25 back then for insurance and have 2 years experience. I was lucky I got a break and started aged 23.

I"m not sure how the staffing agencies in London are getting their chauffeurs for private family type jobs? The job that I just went for, the recruitment consultant contacted me and it all went from there.