Moving to a new organisation, should I? advice welcome.
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Perhaps I should have covered this earlier but I know there is no way they'd increase my salary to any where close to the job I'm looking at, the starting salary at the NHS is I suspect more than the basic for managers here which is why I'm considering the position change to increase my earnings, in addition my colleague has been doing the same role as me for a lot longer and I doubt they'd leap frog my earnings above him.
You're correct with the benefits, they are great (shares, dividends, discount on insurance etc) but I've weighed these up and the increased salary (especially for South Wales) can make a significant difference and exceeds these.
I think you might have been referring to Cardiff? I'm in the second city about 40 miles west
You're correct with the benefits, they are great (shares, dividends, discount on insurance etc) but I've weighed these up and the increased salary (especially for South Wales) can make a significant difference and exceeds these.
I think you might have been referring to Cardiff? I'm in the second city about 40 miles west
I was referring to swanseee, tower block overlooking the train station not far from Dyfatty??
The guy I was referring to worked for some specialist arm of RSA I think - there will be those roles out there which will keep your benefits , provide a company car aswell as a lot more £s. I've not spoken to him for a while but if I can find a number for him in his new house I could ask what type of roles he knows are about.
The guy I was referring to worked for some specialist arm of RSA I think - there will be those roles out there which will keep your benefits , provide a company car aswell as a lot more £s. I've not spoken to him for a while but if I can find a number for him in his new house I could ask what type of roles he knows are about.
elanfan said:
I was referring to swanseee, tower block overlooking the train station not far from Dyfatty??
The guy I was referring to worked for some specialist arm of RSA I think - there will be those roles out there which will keep your benefits , provide a company car aswell as a lot more £s. I've not spoken to him for a while but if I can find a number for him in his new house I could ask what type of roles he knows are about.
Oh I see, Alexandra house?The guy I was referring to worked for some specialist arm of RSA I think - there will be those roles out there which will keep your benefits , provide a company car aswell as a lot more £s. I've not spoken to him for a while but if I can find a number for him in his new house I could ask what type of roles he knows are about.
No, we're in SA1 now.
I think to achieve the position you mention I'd have to carry out a bit of "stepping stones" as per the previous poster, get experience in private and public covering different areas of fraud, this would certainly allow me to appear more attractive to future employers.
Sorry buttie, I'm a bit out of date since working in Craddock Street years ago! Things have certainly changed down there!
I think you are wrong about the stepping stones! There would be very few candidates on the ground in the area they'd need people and very few that would tick all their boxes. Doubtless there would be further training required and perhaps a bit of a steep learning curve but the employer would be aware as this would likely apply to everyone. Don't do yourself down 10 years specialist fraud experience ain't to be sniffed at. Seriously do some research into what is available. You might find a consortium at Lloyds needs someone though you could find yourself covering the entire country. You'll get to hate the M4 Neath thru Port Talbot and the Bryn Glas tunnels.
Good luck
I think you are wrong about the stepping stones! There would be very few candidates on the ground in the area they'd need people and very few that would tick all their boxes. Doubtless there would be further training required and perhaps a bit of a steep learning curve but the employer would be aware as this would likely apply to everyone. Don't do yourself down 10 years specialist fraud experience ain't to be sniffed at. Seriously do some research into what is available. You might find a consortium at Lloyds needs someone though you could find yourself covering the entire country. You'll get to hate the M4 Neath thru Port Talbot and the Bryn Glas tunnels.
Good luck
elanfan said:
Sorry buttie, I'm a bit out of date since working in Craddock Street years ago! Things have certainly changed down there!
I think you are wrong about the stepping stones! There would be very few candidates on the ground in the area they'd need people and very few that would tick all their boxes. Doubtless there would be further training required and perhaps a bit of a steep learning curve but the employer would be aware as this would likely apply to everyone. Don't do yourself down 10 years specialist fraud experience ain't to be sniffed at. Seriously do some research into what is available. You might find a consortium at Lloyds needs someone though you could find yourself covering the entire country. You'll get to hate the M4 Neath thru Port Talbot and the Bryn Glas tunnels.
Good luck
Cheers,I think you are wrong about the stepping stones! There would be very few candidates on the ground in the area they'd need people and very few that would tick all their boxes. Doubtless there would be further training required and perhaps a bit of a steep learning curve but the employer would be aware as this would likely apply to everyone. Don't do yourself down 10 years specialist fraud experience ain't to be sniffed at. Seriously do some research into what is available. You might find a consortium at Lloyds needs someone though you could find yourself covering the entire country. You'll get to hate the M4 Neath thru Port Talbot and the Bryn Glas tunnels.
Good luck
Most of the fraud investigation for insurers based in the south east is done by Investigative groups like Brownsword or Questgate who use area based inspectors, I wouldn't really want to be working for a company like those as the work is very up and down but I appreciate the points you're making about looking about and seeing what else is on offer.
Am I correct in understanding that you haven't even applied for this job yet, let alone interviewed and been offered it?
If so, then apply and see what happens. You lose nothing other than a bit of time, which can be time well spent on your development plans anyway. Recently I applied for a job elsewhere and just going through the application process helped me identify my strengths and weaknesses. I'm staying with my current employer, but thanks to that process am now clearer in my future career plans and am now working towards an internal promotion.
You might get to the interview and decide it isn't for you (as I did). Then you can focus on carving out a better paid role where you are at the moment.
If so, then apply and see what happens. You lose nothing other than a bit of time, which can be time well spent on your development plans anyway. Recently I applied for a job elsewhere and just going through the application process helped me identify my strengths and weaknesses. I'm staying with my current employer, but thanks to that process am now clearer in my future career plans and am now working towards an internal promotion.
You might get to the interview and decide it isn't for you (as I did). Then you can focus on carving out a better paid role where you are at the moment.
It's a tough decision which only you can make, but consider the following:
- What is your ultimate career goal? Will staying put help you get there?
- Will a new role make you more marketable in the future?
- Work life balance in the new/current role?
- Salary moves typically quicker if you move every 3-5 years
- Where will you be most satisfied in the job
Good luck with the decision
- What is your ultimate career goal? Will staying put help you get there?
- Will a new role make you more marketable in the future?
- Work life balance in the new/current role?
- Salary moves typically quicker if you move every 3-5 years
- Where will you be most satisfied in the job
Good luck with the decision
From my own experience I was with an employer and was six months to a year off applying for another promotion. After ten years diligently working my way up I got bored of watching people join after basically blagging interviews.
I started applying elsewhere and was surprised about actually what my skills matched job wise.
I took a higher position with very similar benefits but with a 15% pay rise. I was nervous but its been brilliant, I was approached last month and start in a new position in the same organisation with a 20% increase and a more senior management position in a couple of weeks.
I suppose what I am saying is, moving is a risk, but in my case I would never got the opportunities if I hadn't moved.
I started applying elsewhere and was surprised about actually what my skills matched job wise.
I took a higher position with very similar benefits but with a 15% pay rise. I was nervous but its been brilliant, I was approached last month and start in a new position in the same organisation with a 20% increase and a more senior management position in a couple of weeks.
I suppose what I am saying is, moving is a risk, but in my case I would never got the opportunities if I hadn't moved.
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oldbanger said:
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You lose nothing by applying and going for interview.
The fact you have posted would indicate you are seriously thinking about moving on. Now that thought has been lodged, it can't be undone.
I'd apply, take the interview if selected and explore what the job is really like, then decide. Interview processes are 2 way...you can always say no after the interview and remove yourself from the process.
The fact you have posted would indicate you are seriously thinking about moving on. Now that thought has been lodged, it can't be undone.
I'd apply, take the interview if selected and explore what the job is really like, then decide. Interview processes are 2 way...you can always say no after the interview and remove yourself from the process.
Have you compare to the pension at your current employer with the NHS pension? If you are going from defined contribution to a defined benefit scheme even one where you are expected to make contributions yourself that could be extremely valuable, making the NHS job even more attractive.
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