Personal statement... what should this actually include?

Personal statement... what should this actually include?

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Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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I'm in the process of applying for a position with a large organisation. The position is within IT as a senior/lead developer. I haven't applied for a job in nearly 9yrs, and have only worked in relatively small business before. It's not easy to remember how all this works.

There is a "person specification" with the ad, and it states I should write a personal statement to address this, up to 5,000 characters. What do companies normally actually expect from this? Is it purely a filtering method? and should I actually go anywhere near 5k characters? am I over thinking this (almost certainly!).

Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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anonymous said:
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5000 characters. Not words.

5k characters is approx 1 page. To me it seems too much, and currently I have half a page that mainly goes through a little of my career history and what I've brought to my current position.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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If it's part of the application form, what they are asking is for you to clearly describe how you fit the person specification.

You need to address each point in turn, with examples if possible. Parrot back their exact wording as much as you can. Headings or bullet points can also be useful.

E.g.

I have experience of widget design control through my current role as head widget kicker at a large manufacturer.

I am skilled in prioritising and forecasting cat attack risks, having been owned by a pair of demanding felines for over 5 years. I have particular experience of tin opening under time sensitive and extremely pressured circumstances

It depends on the organisation and role, but these sections are often used by HR to pre screen applications using the person specification as a checklist. The easier you make it for them to tick all the boxes, the more likely the application will passed on to the hiring manager for shortlisting.

This is particularly common in the public sector in my experience

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Edited by oldbanger on Wednesday 8th February 22:04

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Surely it's just like a covering letter but without the top and tail. Adds colour to your CV and allows you the opportunity highlight other relevant attributes.

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

125 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Amen, brother. Ask me some pertinent, work related questions or ps off, you jokers

Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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I've found out I can go direct and bypass the online application. Therefore I don't need to do this personal statement. Seems a little easier this way!

Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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I got an invite to interview smile

Now I'm panicing a little as I wasn't really expecting that as I don't meet all of the requirements in the job description. This should be clear from my CV though.

It's quite a stretch to get the position, but it would be perfect for me career wise. It's just quite scary after so long in the same company and with never having been through a formal interview process before.

Does anyone have any advice in situations like this? I have been going through story ideas for the behavioural interview, and have some insider tips on what the rest of the process will include. Should I be up front in saying that I don't have all the experience, but am very much heading in that direction, and have transferable skills? (it should be clear to them that this is the case as my CV doesn't highlight all the skills they advertised as wanting).

I fully suspect they have limited numbers of applicants for the position as the vast majority of people qualified in what they want are contractors earning hugely more than is being offered. I suspect there are maybe up to 5 people being interviewed.

DanL

6,211 posts

265 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Well done!

Be yourself, be clear in what you know and don't be afraid to be honest about the bits you don't - it will go over better than trying to bluff. Compensate by saying you've got an interest in these missing skills, and would enjoy the chance to learn them as part of taking on the role. If you can add past experience where you've taken on and learnt something on the job, so much the better.

Finally, remember - pretty much no one has the full shopping list they're looking for, as people generally move across and up. If you already had the complete skill set, you'd already be doing the job elsewhere and just moving for money... Not a compelling reason to hire someone!

MitchT

15,865 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Joey Ramone said:
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Amen, brother. Ask me some pertinent, work related questions or ps off, you jokers
Indeed ... "If you were an animal what kind would you be and why?"rolleyes

Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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DanL said:
Finally, remember - pretty much no one has the full shopping list they're looking for, as people generally move across and up. If you already had the complete skill set, you'd already be doing the job elsewhere and just moving for money... Not a compelling reason to hire someone!
A very good and understandable point.

I suspect that being in a single company for so long has knocked my confidence in going for other opportunities to a certain degree. However, my loyalty should be a strong point with this particular position, and the people interviewing me have been in the business for a long time, and have progressed upwards within.

I have almost resigned myself to the fact that I'm not suitable, but the interview should be great experience for me. I need to get away from those thoughts somewhat.

Matt..

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189 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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MitchT said:
Indeed ... "If you were an animal what kind would you be and why?"rolleyes
The recruitment process includes a behavioural interview. So I fully expect that to be them asking me for stories on certain things. Should be fun :/

Steve Campbell

2,134 posts

168 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Matt.. said:
I have almost resigned myself to the fact that I'm not suitable, but the interview should be great experience for me. I need to get away from those thoughts somewhat.
Don't go in with that attitude. It will show. You are as good as the next candidate from your CV, otherwise they wouldn't waste their time interviewing you. If this is a great job for you, go get it !
Answer using the classic STAR approach to any behavioural questions....Situation : Describe it and any obstacles, Target : What you were trying to achieve, Actions : What YOU did, Result : What the final outcome was. Don't forget the Result bit. It's the clincher. You can still answer as a conversation / story and it doesn't need to be so formulaic, but cover the bases. Focus on what you ARE good at, be honest about what you don't know but think of examples where you have shown yourself to pick up new things quickly or have succeeded in an area that was new to you that you might be able to showcase in your answers. Good luck !

Matt..

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3,594 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I missed out frown

It was a fairly formal and long process. It was 3.5hrs of assessments.

I'd say I've learnt a lot from the process, and I'll know far more of what to expect. I suspect not having done an interview for nearly 10yrs didn't help my case smile

oldbanger

4,316 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Well done. Next time you'll be a little less green and a bit more lean and mean smile

hidetheelephants

24,310 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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MitchT said:
Indeed ... "If you were an animal what kind would you be and why?"rolleyes
I'd be a human being because we've developed self-awareness, learned to use tools and are social; nothing else comes close.

ClockworkCupcake

74,539 posts

272 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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So very true. And even more so when it is a recruitment agency wanting you to do it as it is effectively asking you to do their job for them.