Pay rise advice
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FrankAbagnale said:
Id probably build a bit more of a case for a pay rise...
Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
That Sir is brilliant.Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
Edited by FrankAbagnale on Wednesday 1st March 09:06
I could possibly write this and take it into the meeting with me?
I will also write about my duties and increased workload etc
Thank you
TROOPER88 said:
FrankAbagnale said:
Id probably build a bit more of a case for a pay rise...
Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
That Sir is brilliant.Dear xxx,
I am writing in relation to my current remuneration and would request a meeting to discuss the possibility of a increase in pay.
I have worked for XX Leisure for 13 years and my current job title is xxxxxx and responsibilities entail xxxxxx xxx xxxxx. For a considerable period of time and more so since xxxx left his/her role I have assumed greater responsibilities of a more senior job role.
Through my research I can see that the average salary in this area for a xxxxxx is £xxxxx and I believe the responsibilities in this role encompasses my position.
When xxxx left their role I was informed verbally that due to increase in workload and responsibility I would receive a pay rise. I have chased this a couple of times with emails on xx and xx but am yet to receive a response.
I thoroughly enjoy working at XX Leisure and have been a loyal, hardworking, reliable member of staff for 13 years and very much hope I can continue. However, without a significant payrise that reflects my current skillset and responsibilities, I will have to consider my options.
Edited by FrankAbagnale on Wednesday 1st March 09:06
I could possibly write this and take it into the meeting with me?
I will also write about my duties and increased workload etc
Thank you
I disagree with the whole thing. Best advice I can give the OP is to open his eyes a bit, be less company and look for another job.
Reason: He's shown he's happy to do more than he's contracted to for the same money. If he just does what he's supposed to, and that's the right salary for that role, the company's not done anything wrong.
It's a bit like me being asked to change a wheel, in addition I also cleaned your car, demanded an extra tenner for the clean and getting pissy when you just pay me for the wheel change.
OP - if you cant live on what they're paying you, find someone who'll pay you more. Strongly worded emails wont help, and your boss already doesnt care, that's why he's avoided the chat.
Reason: He's shown he's happy to do more than he's contracted to for the same money. If he just does what he's supposed to, and that's the right salary for that role, the company's not done anything wrong.
It's a bit like me being asked to change a wheel, in addition I also cleaned your car, demanded an extra tenner for the clean and getting pissy when you just pay me for the wheel change.
OP - if you cant live on what they're paying you, find someone who'll pay you more. Strongly worded emails wont help, and your boss already doesnt care, that's why he's avoided the chat.
Hi
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
TROOPER88 said:
Hi
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Told you not to tell him what it was. Now he has a valid exckuse to string it out. Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Start looking elsewhere.
TROOPER88 said:
Hi
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
This does give you the chance to go out and look for other jobs, which i would be doing now.Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
The 'doing end you year accounts' is utter BS. He might be doing them but you have already said that you are a man down so that is one salary saved. If it were tight enough that there were no extra money for you, and the GM really was a friend then they would tell you straight. There is no money, that is why we had to let Brad go and we can't afford to re employ so sorry but there is nothing in the pot to give you a pay rise.
All the GM has done is tell me that he doesn't place any value on your friendship and has kicked that can down the road for another month.
I would add to this that the fact that he has been avoiding the question with 'jokey mateyness' tells me that he is playing the fact that you think he and you are friends, not just co workers who get on very well.
You've been fobbed off. Start looking for another job immediately.
If an employee of mine asked me for a meeting like you had, even if the accounts had to be done before I could decide, I'd still have the meeting face to face to discuss the persons reasons and thoughts...to gauge how serious they were and what they were looking for.
The fact he has fobbed you off until April tells you everything you need to know.
If an employee of mine asked me for a meeting like you had, even if the accounts had to be done before I could decide, I'd still have the meeting face to face to discuss the persons reasons and thoughts...to gauge how serious they were and what they were looking for.
The fact he has fobbed you off until April tells you everything you need to know.
TROOPER88 said:
Hi
Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Dear GM,Emailed the GM asking for a meeting tomorrow to discuss.
He replied stating that he is currently doing the end of year accounts and until this is done won't know whether a rise is possible.
I will hear by the 01.04.17.
This gives me a month to see what jobs are out there I guess.
I will update....
Please find attached my letter of resignation.
Regards
An unhappy trooper
How much time do you actually need for this conversation? 20-30 mins? Certainly no more than that. He's saying that in the next month he can't afford to spend 30 mins with you to discuss something so important.
That, in itself, is fobbing you off. As a 'friend' he'd be able to sit down for a coffee break and have the chat with you.
As others have said, there is no pay rise, start looking for a job and use the meeting on the 1st April to tell him you're off.
That, in itself, is fobbing you off. As a 'friend' he'd be able to sit down for a coffee break and have the chat with you.
As others have said, there is no pay rise, start looking for a job and use the meeting on the 1st April to tell him you're off.
Go have a tinker with the boiler then hold him to ransom!! 
He's definitely taking you for a ride. He's saved one salary when your colleague wasn't replaced so can easily afford it. You need to call his bluff, if you are confident of getting another job (after 13 years in position surely you could get your own GM position at a rival) quickly. Maybe hand in your resignation but add the you would withdraw it on confirmation of the revised salary.
He's definitely taking you for a ride. He's saved one salary when your colleague wasn't replaced so can easily afford it. You need to call his bluff, if you are confident of getting another job (after 13 years in position surely you could get your own GM position at a rival) quickly. Maybe hand in your resignation but add the you would withdraw it on confirmation of the revised salary.
End of year accounts? What?
He's running a business, so he'll have a budget (revenues and costs) going out at least 12 months, cash flow forecast, headcount costs etc. If he can't tell almost immediately that he can or can't give you a pay rise then he's a muppet and shouldn't be running a business.
TL;DR... He's stringing you along. Get another job.
He's running a business, so he'll have a budget (revenues and costs) going out at least 12 months, cash flow forecast, headcount costs etc. If he can't tell almost immediately that he can or can't give you a pay rise then he's a muppet and shouldn't be running a business.
TL;DR... He's stringing you along. Get another job.
Hi
I had a coffee and a good chat with the GM yesterday morning and expressed my concern regarding this issue.
He said that decisions of this nature he had to put to the Club's director and accountant when they next meet (after he has done the annual accounts).
Plausible or not, I have made my feelings very clear and he has assured me he is taking the case seriously and will put a strong case forward on my behalf.
The matter is not as simple as it appears. The Club is in financial difficulty due to overspending many years ago.
I enjoy my job here and develop property part time so do not want to shoot myself in the foot and leave a good job; I just feel that I should be paid more than I currently am. If I can do another 2-3 years here I will then move into the property thing in a full time capacity.
I will update next month. Thank you.
I had a coffee and a good chat with the GM yesterday morning and expressed my concern regarding this issue.
He said that decisions of this nature he had to put to the Club's director and accountant when they next meet (after he has done the annual accounts).
Plausible or not, I have made my feelings very clear and he has assured me he is taking the case seriously and will put a strong case forward on my behalf.
The matter is not as simple as it appears. The Club is in financial difficulty due to overspending many years ago.
I enjoy my job here and develop property part time so do not want to shoot myself in the foot and leave a good job; I just feel that I should be paid more than I currently am. If I can do another 2-3 years here I will then move into the property thing in a full time capacity.
I will update next month. Thank you.
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