Jacking in your job
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Woodrow Wilson said:
I am still seeking a job at a similar level and level of pay to my old job. There are some interesting possibilities and I hope to move on soon.
In my current job, I have managed to extract myself from the longer hours that I was doing -for no reward or recognition- although I am still working at a higher level of responsibility than I am being paid for. I, and others, have been exploited and it has been made clear that will not change. I have been doing it for my colleagues, but it is not for the long term. Aspects of the culture are not a good fit with me anyway.
All I can say is keep at it. I say there is a bum for every seat out there. Sometimes these opportunities turn up when you least expect them. I've always been highly motivated when job hunting and treat it as a job itself. I set some free time to do it and am quite rigid when it's time. In my current job, I have managed to extract myself from the longer hours that I was doing -for no reward or recognition- although I am still working at a higher level of responsibility than I am being paid for. I, and others, have been exploited and it has been made clear that will not change. I have been doing it for my colleagues, but it is not for the long term. Aspects of the culture are not a good fit with me anyway.
Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Tuesday 23 April 22:10
Keep going and keep us up to date. Brilliant thread. My last day is this Friday 26rh!
I'm in a similar situation at the moment.
Been with my current employer for the past 6 years.
I'm essentially working in IT for a manufacturing company.
At the start it was good - plenty to be getting on with at the particular site I was based at, lots of improvements to be made and projects to be getting on with.
I took a small drop in pay to move as it suited my needs at the time.
Alarm bells "did" start ringing during the interview / first few weeks in work, but needed to move on from the last place, so decided to stick it out.
What I noticed almost immediately was the pace / rate of work, I had come from a company that was faced paced and needed everything doing yesterday - in this place there was a lot of "manyana" that was frustrating.
I saw it as a good opportunity to get stuck into projects and development work, thinking that it would get noticed with the potential for promotion in the not too distant future.
I was wrong. Despite my line manager stating a pay rise was on the horizon, it took around 12-15 months, wasn't negotiated and was negligible - think I remember seeing an extra 50 quid a month.
In terms of the job spec, I am working far beyond the requirements, doing some works that other sites use contractors for.
Whenever I raise the job title / money (which isn't often now as I've given up hope), you are told that pay is banded / graded by the job role - which is fine, but its below industry standard, I also don't see it fair that my colleagues in the same "role" may not be doing the same things - as our sites vary a lot. They often insinuate that you "should be lucky to work for such an organization" .etc
I'm still in touch with my colleagues from my previous role, they have had numerous pay rises / bonuses since I left - with entry level roles there now exceeding my annual salary.
I feel like a right mug at the moment - so this week I've decided enough is enough, as I'm only getting more frustrated and feel like I'm not progressing.
Time to dust off the old CV and get the applications in I think.
Been with my current employer for the past 6 years.
I'm essentially working in IT for a manufacturing company.
At the start it was good - plenty to be getting on with at the particular site I was based at, lots of improvements to be made and projects to be getting on with.
I took a small drop in pay to move as it suited my needs at the time.
Alarm bells "did" start ringing during the interview / first few weeks in work, but needed to move on from the last place, so decided to stick it out.
What I noticed almost immediately was the pace / rate of work, I had come from a company that was faced paced and needed everything doing yesterday - in this place there was a lot of "manyana" that was frustrating.
I saw it as a good opportunity to get stuck into projects and development work, thinking that it would get noticed with the potential for promotion in the not too distant future.
I was wrong. Despite my line manager stating a pay rise was on the horizon, it took around 12-15 months, wasn't negotiated and was negligible - think I remember seeing an extra 50 quid a month.
In terms of the job spec, I am working far beyond the requirements, doing some works that other sites use contractors for.
Whenever I raise the job title / money (which isn't often now as I've given up hope), you are told that pay is banded / graded by the job role - which is fine, but its below industry standard, I also don't see it fair that my colleagues in the same "role" may not be doing the same things - as our sites vary a lot. They often insinuate that you "should be lucky to work for such an organization" .etc
I'm still in touch with my colleagues from my previous role, they have had numerous pay rises / bonuses since I left - with entry level roles there now exceeding my annual salary.
I feel like a right mug at the moment - so this week I've decided enough is enough, as I'm only getting more frustrated and feel like I'm not progressing.
Time to dust off the old CV and get the applications in I think.
AlexGSi2000 said:
I'm in a similar situation at the moment.
Been with my current employer for the past 6 years.
I'm essentially working in IT for a manufacturing company.
At the start it was good - plenty to be getting on with at the particular site I was based at, lots of improvements to be made and projects to be getting on with.
I took a small drop in pay to move as it suited my needs at the time.
Alarm bells "did" start ringing during the interview / first few weeks in work, but needed to move on from the last place, so decided to stick it out.
What I noticed almost immediately was the pace / rate of work, I had come from a company that was faced paced and needed everything doing yesterday - in this place there was a lot of "manyana" that was frustrating.
I saw it as a good opportunity to get stuck into projects and development work, thinking that it would get noticed with the potential for promotion in the not too distant future.
I was wrong. Despite my line manager stating a pay rise was on the horizon, it took around 12-15 months, wasn't negotiated and was negligible - think I remember seeing an extra 50 quid a month.
In terms of the job spec, I am working far beyond the requirements, doing some works that other sites use contractors for.
Whenever I raise the job title / money (which isn't often now as I've given up hope), you are told that pay is banded / graded by the job role - which is fine, but its below industry standard, I also don't see it fair that my colleagues in the same "role" may not be doing the same things - as our sites vary a lot. They often insinuate that you "should be lucky to work for such an organization" .etc
I'm still in touch with my colleagues from my previous role, they have had numerous pay rises / bonuses since I left - with entry level roles there now exceeding my annual salary.
I feel like a right mug at the moment - so this week I've decided enough is enough, as I'm only getting more frustrated and feel like I'm not progressing.
Time to dust off the old CV and get the applications in I think.
Please dont take this the wrong way, but why on earth would you put up with that for so long? I'd have been gone years ago!Been with my current employer for the past 6 years.
I'm essentially working in IT for a manufacturing company.
At the start it was good - plenty to be getting on with at the particular site I was based at, lots of improvements to be made and projects to be getting on with.
I took a small drop in pay to move as it suited my needs at the time.
Alarm bells "did" start ringing during the interview / first few weeks in work, but needed to move on from the last place, so decided to stick it out.
What I noticed almost immediately was the pace / rate of work, I had come from a company that was faced paced and needed everything doing yesterday - in this place there was a lot of "manyana" that was frustrating.
I saw it as a good opportunity to get stuck into projects and development work, thinking that it would get noticed with the potential for promotion in the not too distant future.
I was wrong. Despite my line manager stating a pay rise was on the horizon, it took around 12-15 months, wasn't negotiated and was negligible - think I remember seeing an extra 50 quid a month.
In terms of the job spec, I am working far beyond the requirements, doing some works that other sites use contractors for.
Whenever I raise the job title / money (which isn't often now as I've given up hope), you are told that pay is banded / graded by the job role - which is fine, but its below industry standard, I also don't see it fair that my colleagues in the same "role" may not be doing the same things - as our sites vary a lot. They often insinuate that you "should be lucky to work for such an organization" .etc
I'm still in touch with my colleagues from my previous role, they have had numerous pay rises / bonuses since I left - with entry level roles there now exceeding my annual salary.
I feel like a right mug at the moment - so this week I've decided enough is enough, as I'm only getting more frustrated and feel like I'm not progressing.
Time to dust off the old CV and get the applications in I think.
geeks said:
Please dont take this the wrong way, but why on earth would you put up with that for so long? I'd have been gone years ago!
You are right, I only have myself to blame on that one!Just to add fuel to the fire / argument - the company don't pay overtime. So all the out of hours work has never been paid (overnight updates.etc).
A lot of my colleagues from site have also left in the past 3 months - all were the ones actually doing work!
AlexGSi2000 said:
You are right, I only have myself to blame on that one!
Just to add fuel to the fire / argument - the company don't pay overtime. So all the out of hours work has never been paid (overnight updates.etc).
A lot of my colleagues from site have also left in the past 3 months - all were the ones actually doing work!
out of interest why did you do it?Just to add fuel to the fire / argument - the company don't pay overtime. So all the out of hours work has never been paid (overnight updates.etc).
A lot of my colleagues from site have also left in the past 3 months - all were the ones actually doing work!
Mirinjawbro said:
out of interest why did you do it?
Leave my old place?...It was an interesting point in my life really - I was mid to late 20's and thought I could work constantly without any detriment.
Everything was fine, then it all caught up with me.
I was in an infrastructure team and responsible for out of hours changes.etc, this was quite frequent.
Typically, on the day system changes were being made I would be in the office from around 0830-1700, pop home, sleep for a couple of hours, back up at around 2200 and finishing around 0300, back in the office again for 0830-1700.
As well as this, there was abit of a culture - my counterpart wasnt the easiest to deal with and we had a workaholic manager who expected everyone to keep the same pace.
Between all this I was repairing auction cars in my spare time - I would buy around three from Copart each month and spend evenings / weekends repairing then selling on. (Met some right characters).
Felt invincible at the time, but after a few months it all closed in regarding my mental health. Got to the point where I was struggling to sleep at-all and had constant anxiety - guess I just couldn't handle the pace.
I decided enough was enough and ended up stopping the auction cars and finding a slightly slower paced job.
It did the trick, after a few weeks it felt like a weight had been lifted.
Turns out this place is now too far in the other direction in terms of pace smile - could do with finding somewhere in the middle!
Life has moved on now, now married with a 21 month old. At the moment we are doing OK I guess, have just moved to a nicer area.
Once the bills have been paid, I have around £400 left (any other expenses - tyres for the car.etc will eat into that).
We are doing better than some, of course - but would like to be able to take my boy to the likes of Disneyland.etc when he's a little older, or maybe build an extension on the house.
This is something that unfortunately my current role wont allow.
Edited by AlexGSi2000 on Friday 26th April 09:03
Edited by AlexGSi2000 on Friday 26th April 09:06
Edited by AlexGSi2000 on Friday 26th April 09:08
austina35 said:
Left job today. Absolutely no goodbye from anyone.
I move onwards
There's people with 40 years behind them at our place and management don't even leave their office. I move onwards
The only leaving do's we have as such are if you organise something yourself.
Quite depressing really but always worth keeping in your mind if the work to reward ratio skews too far to the left.
ChocolateFrog said:
There's people with 40 years behind them at our place and management don't even leave their office.
The only leaving do's we have as such are if you organise something yourself.
Quite depressing really but always worth keeping in your mind if the work to reward ratio skews too far to the left.
Amazing that anyone thinks they're more than a number. The only leaving do's we have as such are if you organise something yourself.
Quite depressing really but always worth keeping in your mind if the work to reward ratio skews too far to the left.
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