E60 / E61 M5 Buyers Guide
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H&S are cheap for reason.
What they have done above is simply cut the exhaust before it separates at the 2 pipe section before it separates into 4... Arguably this would yield the most power gain lol.... Agree it looks wrong though.
I originally had 4 pipes out the back to see what it sounded like, but I had it cut at the 2 pipe section (made a better than stock y peice) and a v band welded and then a v band was also fitted to the stock exhaust taken off so it was a 15min refit.
A little Later I had tailpipes made that were actually mini silencers with the a similar offset step to the originals as I think this is as important as the quad pipe on an M car.
The mini silencers took the edge off the idle without the need for large silencers to reduce the on throttle noise :-)
Nothing short of silly exotica sounds as good let alone better than the M5 with silencer delete :-)
What they have done above is simply cut the exhaust before it separates at the 2 pipe section before it separates into 4... Arguably this would yield the most power gain lol.... Agree it looks wrong though.
I originally had 4 pipes out the back to see what it sounded like, but I had it cut at the 2 pipe section (made a better than stock y peice) and a v band welded and then a v band was also fitted to the stock exhaust taken off so it was a 15min refit.
A little Later I had tailpipes made that were actually mini silencers with the a similar offset step to the originals as I think this is as important as the quad pipe on an M car.
The mini silencers took the edge off the idle without the need for large silencers to reduce the on throttle noise :-)
Nothing short of silly exotica sounds as good let alone better than the M5 with silencer delete :-)
ecain63 said:
andygtt said:
H&S are cheap for reason.
Why is that then? Not a single bad review from any of us who've visited them with an E60/1I don't actually, I had an ac schnitzer on my M3 and that was awsome sound and quality but I know not if they do one for an M5 or what effect it has on performance.
What I do is have a local guy (who specialises in 1 off custom exhausts) make me exactly what I want, means I know exactly what goes into the silencer and how restrictive it is... For my 'toy' (noble that needs to pass track day noise tests) the internal perf is titanium with the highest quality waddling carefully packed, it has a hard life as it needed to be both quiet and unrestrictive and yet take huge flames on every gear change ( classic killer for silencers).... We stripped it to inspect after 6000 road and track miles and it was as new inside and it passes even the most stringent track sound regs.... The plus side is I have ab2nd silencer that can be removed for the external wastegates, so if I choose I can have the car completely unsilenced on boost which is significantly noisier than even my M5 with its silencer delete lol
What I do is have a local guy (who specialises in 1 off custom exhausts) make me exactly what I want, means I know exactly what goes into the silencer and how restrictive it is... For my 'toy' (noble that needs to pass track day noise tests) the internal perf is titanium with the highest quality waddling carefully packed, it has a hard life as it needed to be both quiet and unrestrictive and yet take huge flames on every gear change ( classic killer for silencers).... We stripped it to inspect after 6000 road and track miles and it was as new inside and it passes even the most stringent track sound regs.... The plus side is I have ab2nd silencer that can be removed for the external wastegates, so if I choose I can have the car completely unsilenced on boost which is significantly noisier than even my M5 with its silencer delete lol
gazchap said:
Still considering coming down to see him, Contigo, although I expect it'll cost more now as he'll have to weld back on the original pipes first - or use an exhaust sleeve or whatever they're called!
Is he still up for it?
He's just fecked his hand up mate in a big way. I will mail you when he is back in business.Is he still up for it?
gazchap said:
Contigo said:
Pics please of the underside! I cannot wait to see how they have lobbed them off 
Can't get under it, but this is the back. I was torn, but now I'm hacked off with it and want the original pipes back on. I think I'm just gonna take it back to the place that lopped them off, ask them to weld the original bits back on, and then do what they should have done in the first place and just cut out the silencers.
i cant believe im back here but i am now tempted AGAIN by what would be my 3rd V10 S85. would be an E61 this time round. currently got a E53 4.8is, very capable 4x4. was looking at E61 pricing just recently and i was surprised to see that they had settled (and dropped) quite a bit.
anyway, going from 20mpg (which is what im getting at present) to say 18 which is what ive got with my M5 & M6 previously isnt that much of an issue, the problem is with these is general running costs. brutal.
M777CUS said:
oh jesus, that looks absolutely ridiculous.
i cant believe im back here but i am now tempted AGAIN by what would be my 3rd V10 S85. would be an E61 this time round. currently got a E53 4.8is, very capable 4x4. was looking at E61 pricing just recently and i was surprised to see that they had settled (and dropped) quite a bit.
anyway, going from 20mpg (which is what im getting at present) to say 18 which is what ive got with my M5 & M6 previously isnt that much of an issue, the problem is with these is general running costs. brutal.
Mail bounced M777CUS.i cant believe im back here but i am now tempted AGAIN by what would be my 3rd V10 S85. would be an E61 this time round. currently got a E53 4.8is, very capable 4x4. was looking at E61 pricing just recently and i was surprised to see that they had settled (and dropped) quite a bit.
anyway, going from 20mpg (which is what im getting at present) to say 18 which is what ive got with my M5 & M6 previously isnt that much of an issue, the problem is with these is general running costs. brutal.
ecain63 said:
And for people who only keep the car for a couple of years thats no issue. Mine have been on 2 years (18 months with me and 7 months under new owner) and theres no issues to report thus far.
Missed this before, but age is less important than mileage. I accept that they may be good enough for some and sound good, but they are NOT even half the quality of the original silencers and to me that was an issue.Contigo said:
M777CUS said:
oh jesus, that looks absolutely ridiculous.
i cant believe im back here but i am now tempted AGAIN by what would be my 3rd V10 S85. would be an E61 this time round. currently got a E53 4.8is, very capable 4x4. was looking at E61 pricing just recently and i was surprised to see that they had settled (and dropped) quite a bit.
anyway, going from 20mpg (which is what im getting at present) to say 18 which is what ive got with my M5 & M6 previously isnt that much of an issue, the problem is with these is general running costs. brutal.
Mail bounced M777CUS.i cant believe im back here but i am now tempted AGAIN by what would be my 3rd V10 S85. would be an E61 this time round. currently got a E53 4.8is, very capable 4x4. was looking at E61 pricing just recently and i was surprised to see that they had settled (and dropped) quite a bit.
anyway, going from 20mpg (which is what im getting at present) to say 18 which is what ive got with my M5 & M6 previously isnt that much of an issue, the problem is with these is general running costs. brutal.
Cheers
gents, thoughts on sepabng bronze please? i cant make up my mind on it. only touring on sale though the BMW network at the minute is sepang, i think it looks ok but another thing is i dont like that walnut trim and would look to get it replaced ASAP.
anyway, is sepang that much of a problem on re-sale?
anyway, is sepang that much of a problem on re-sale?
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