1M Coupe DMS remap ..........Any experiences ?

1M Coupe DMS remap ..........Any experiences ?

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ChrisBuer

628 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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jon- said:
So in theory, this would eat e9x M3s all day?!

Nice.
Only if we can get traction biggrin

janahan9

122 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Can I ask how much it changed your insurance premium by and who u are with? Thanks

clived

577 posts

240 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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ChrisBuer said:
However when I spoke to DMS, they told me that unless I wanted it to sound a lot louder, it probably wasn't worth changing. They recently had a 1M in with Akrapovic exhaust (with valves) and although it sounded very good, the car had a little more lag. I questioned whether the standard exhaust was restrictive and was told that it was not. Bottom line, they could have made money out of me by selling me an exhaust but they didn't think it would be worth doing.

If however you do want to get an exhaust, I hear Super-Sprint do a nice system (around about £1200 for a cat-back system) and a few fellow owners have fitted that. However, I think once you've remapped it, you'll probably not be after too much more power too quickly as it's quite a quick car post map biggrin
Hmmmm. Evolve's testing on my car with just the cat-back exhaust showed that the stock exhaust is restrictive - to the tune of +15 bhp and +15 lb.ft benefit. Exhaust + FMIC makes a significant difference over just a map. We really need to have some mini-meets of tuned 1Ms - perhaps a rolling road session, trip to Vmax, some runs at the Pod maybe? For sure my 1M doesn't have any extra lag and it isn't a lot louder, so I'd have to disagree with DMS on all three counts there (and I say that as an ex-DMS customer for both my 535d and other-half's then 118d (bless) ;-)

Details of the Evolve / Supersprint exhaust here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63...

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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clived said:
ChrisBuer said:
However when I spoke to DMS, they told me that unless I wanted it to sound a lot louder, it probably wasn't worth changing. They recently had a 1M in with Akrapovic exhaust (with valves) and although it sounded very good, the car had a little more lag. I questioned whether the standard exhaust was restrictive and was told that it was not. Bottom line, they could have made money out of me by selling me an exhaust but they didn't think it would be worth doing.

If however you do want to get an exhaust, I hear Super-Sprint do a nice system (around about £1200 for a cat-back system) and a few fellow owners have fitted that. However, I think once you've remapped it, you'll probably not be after too much more power too quickly as it's quite a quick car post map biggrin
Hmmmm. Evolve's testing on my car with just the cat-back exhaust showed that the stock exhaust is restrictive - to the tune of +15 bhp and +15 lb.ft benefit. Exhaust + FMIC makes a significant difference over just a map. We really need to have some mini-meets of tuned 1Ms - perhaps a rolling road session, trip to Vmax, some runs at the Pod maybe? For sure my 1M doesn't have any extra lag and it isn't a lot louder, so I'd have to disagree with DMS on all three counts there (and I say that as an ex-DMS customer for both my 535d and other-half's then 118d (bless) ;-)

Details of the Evolve / Supersprint exhaust here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63...
Agreed (with Clived). We now have an Akrapovic system on the car and are currently looking at remaps. Remapping and then changing the exhaust seemed the wrong way round to us. We may look at 'conventional' tuning - cams etc - before/with remap anyway. TBO though, loosing some weight and sorting/improving traction, high speed stability etc are greater priorities.

ChrisBuer

628 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Yeah I'm sure the exhaust and FMIC would help, but all I'm doing is relaying the message I've had back from DMS. Like I say, they could have sold me both an exhaust and FMIC, but told me that it wasn't worth doing (in their eyes). I'd love to see the differences they'd make on my car though and if I were to go for both, then I'd have the map tweaked to suit.

All I can say now is that on the exhaust front, I don't want it too much louder at the moment. I actually quite like the fact that it's fairly quiet at speed, but still sounds good when you open it up. Although I really do like the look of the Supersprint system smile

With regards to the FMIC, again if it makes a difference then I'll consider one, but so far my temps have been fine. I will run a temp gauge plugged into my ODB port when I go to Brands in a few weeks time to see if I'm "running hot" and report back. This gauge shows the live intake air temperature that is going into the engine after passing through the intercooler.

Bottom line at the moment, my car is quick enough as it is and I wonder what extra I'd get by adding any more performance parts to it. In other words, if I get another 15bhp from adding an exhaust and FMIC, will that be felt from the seat of my car. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do at all, but since my remap I've never sat in the car and thought "this isn't fast enough".

I'll caveat all of this and say that I do love adding small mods to cars though. All of my previous Lotus' have had exhausts, cats, etc added and I loved the results. So I'm not against doing it, I guess I'm just trying to work out whether spending the extra ££ is worth doing or not smile

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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ChrisB. Certainly not doubting what you said matey - ie passing on what you were told. Or indeed saying the way you've gone is wrong. Just decided to plough a slightly different furrow based on different info/conclusions. Doubt either of us will be exactly unhappy!

SRM355

334 posts

159 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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What do you guys think of the Evolve and Akrapovic exhausts? Do you know if the Evolve can be a direct replacement for the back box only, ie. no cutting of the downpipe, etc to fit?

I love the look of the Evolve and SuperSprint back boxes - hoping to get something that isn't any more intrusive noise wise than standard, just enhances the noise (if possible as standard system sounds great IMO)? Thanks....

Pugsey said:
clived said:
ChrisBuer said:
However when I spoke to DMS, they told me that unless I wanted it to sound a lot louder, it probably wasn't worth changing. They recently had a 1M in with Akrapovic exhaust (with valves) and although it sounded very good, the car had a little more lag. I questioned whether the standard exhaust was restrictive and was told that it was not. Bottom line, they could have made money out of me by selling me an exhaust but they didn't think it would be worth doing.

If however you do want to get an exhaust, I hear Super-Sprint do a nice system (around about £1200 for a cat-back system) and a few fellow owners have fitted that. However, I think once you've remapped it, you'll probably not be after too much more power too quickly as it's quite a quick car post map biggrin
Hmmmm. Evolve's testing on my car with just the cat-back exhaust showed that the stock exhaust is restrictive - to the tune of +15 bhp and +15 lb.ft benefit. Exhaust + FMIC makes a significant difference over just a map. We really need to have some mini-meets of tuned 1Ms - perhaps a rolling road session, trip to Vmax, some runs at the Pod maybe? For sure my 1M doesn't have any extra lag and it isn't a lot louder, so I'd have to disagree with DMS on all three counts there (and I say that as an ex-DMS customer for both my 535d and other-half's then 118d (bless) ;-)

Details of the Evolve / Supersprint exhaust here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63...
Agreed (with Clived). We now have an Akrapovic system on the car and are currently looking at remaps. Remapping and then changing the exhaust seemed the wrong way round to us. We may look at 'conventional' tuning - cams etc - before/with remap anyway. TBO though, loosing some weight and sorting/improving traction, high speed stability etc are greater priorities.

SRM355

334 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Just found this thread comparing the standard 1M exhaust to about every aftermarket exhaust available by the look of things!

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61...

Nice to see that just the back box can be purchased and fitted without any cutting, etc. Really like the look of the Evolve and Supersprint back boxes...

mat430

176 posts

189 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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just had my 1m remapped its amazing ! much quicker then my f430

Gastro

88 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I thought this 1200 mile service didnt apply to any of the xM models.....
In fact a dealer told me the same - saying it only applied to the traditional Mx models ?

clived

577 posts

240 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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If it's got a LSD, the oil needs changing at 1200, period. Sounds like your dealer is confused between M sport models and M cars.

Gastro

88 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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clived said:
If it's got a LSD, the oil needs changing at 1200, period. Sounds like your dealer is confused between M sport models and M cars.
Does the 1m have an LSD - forgive my ignorance !

Rsmatt

29 posts

147 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I too have an evolve remap and I can't recommend them enough really good people to deal with really know there stuff and have more experience with the n54 engine than anybody else speak to Imran you will be impressed!

Gastro

88 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Gastro said:
Does the 1m have an LSD - forgive my ignorance !
Just searched - do'h ! It's got the M3 LSD.

spud989

2,739 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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mat430 said:
just had my 1m remapped its amazing ! much quicker then my f430
Very interesting! Actually (timed?) or just feels quicker?

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Slightly off topic here but this is something that concerns me in a way. In a couple of years or so when the 1M has slowed on the depreciation then I may look at getting one. Thing is though, the owner can easily put the standard map back in and who would ever know it had it wick turned up to max beforehand?

When the car is remapped, things wear at a greater rate as more stresses are introduced and I'd be gutted in buying a car that had been run like this from 1200 miles onwards. I suppose that's the double edged sword with turbocharged cars.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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spud989 said:
mat430 said:
just had my 1m remapped its amazing ! much quicker then my f430
Very interesting! Actually (timed?) or just feels quicker?
Not so sure. We've now remapped (and a bit more) our 1M 'CSL' project. It MIGHT be as quick as an F430 (or even quicker) over very specific increments in certain gears but certainly not overall against a fully rung out Fezza. 'Seat of pants' opinion only. We will be figuring it later.

Gastro

88 posts

232 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Has anyone considered the Hartge performance upgrade for the 1M ?

mat430

176 posts

189 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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it felt quicker in a straight line to 100-120 i would say quicker so in the real world will be quicker imo

ant man

169 posts

170 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Have a look at Evolve's tuning products for the 1M too before deciding. There was a fairly comprehensive review in BMW Car Magazine (June edition I think) and it got top feedback from the mag's editors.

I've personally used Evolve and their customer service and aftercare is first class.