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RobboC
Original Poster
799 posts
131 months
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I'm a Beemer virgin, but really going to try and get into one this year.
I realise the different dynamics between the two cars, but how do they compare in terms of maintainence/borkage?
The M5 is an obvious choice as I just adore it, but would an M3 give a similar experience for less worry? Not a fan of the previous M3 so much...
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duff
426 posts
69 months
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If you do a search there's a recent thread on this very subject iirc.
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Trellis
437 posts
109 months
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RobboC said: I'm a Beemer virgin, but really going to try and get into one this year.
I realise the different dynamics between the two cars, but how do they compare in terms of maintainence/borkage?
The M5 is an obvious choice as I just adore it, but would an M3 give a similar experience for less worry? Not a fan of the previous M3 so much... really simple answer to this is NO. Either car has the potential to sting you financially if you buy a pig. Either has the potential to run on just servicing and routine maintenance for years and many miles if you buy a good one. Both are too old for 'book' running costs to outweigh the history and provenance of individual cars. If you like the M5 more then buy one and pocket the cash saved for 'unforeseen' maintenance or if you do it right, upgrades! good luck. Both are well worth the effort and expense!!!
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mat205125
14,770 posts
83 months
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Trellis said: Both are well worth the effort and expense!!!  Keep a grand or two in an "in case of emergency" fund.
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_Neal_
1,043 posts
89 months
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Trellis said: really simple answer to this is NO. Either car has the potential to sting you financially if you buy a pig. Either has the potential to run on just servicing and routine maintenance for years and many miles if you buy a good one.
Both are too old for 'book' running costs to outweigh the history and provenance of individual cars.
If you like the M5 more then buy one and pocket the cash saved for 'unforeseen' maintenance or if you do it right, upgrades!
good luck. Both are well worth the effort and expense!!! Spot on advice. Research and drive both and buy a good version of the one you like. Job done.
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RobboC
Original Poster
799 posts
131 months
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Many thanks! Yes, I intend to keep some cash to the side. Considering going from the Mondeo, to a Fiat Panda 100hp for daily grind and M5 in the garage to **** me off at weekends  Just looks so terrifying looking at all the ads wondering what hidden demons each some has....
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nickrex
117 posts
43 months
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RobboC said: Many thanks! Yes, I intend to keep some cash to the side. Considering going from the Mondeo, to a Fiat Panda 100hp for daily grind and M5 in the garage to **** me off at weekends  Just looks so terrifying looking at all the ads wondering what hidden demons each some has.... Every time I've bought a car I've gone on-line to research potential problems and pitfalls. You will find plenty of reasons not to buy any car if you look hard enough, including the run of the mill stuff for the wife etc. Before I got my E39 M5 last year I did all the research and looked at quite a few. All the time the head was screaming 'don't do it', in the end the 'right one' came up on my doorstep and I bought it there and then. Even then my head said no, but having lusted after these cars for years with them being way out of my budget I had to buy it. I haven't regretted it one bit. It feels bombproof (touching wood now  ) and I love it. If you really want a great car, get one. People mainly shout about bad news on forums. It may be nightmare, but could be a dream. Go for it!
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EssexIan
62 posts
153 months
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Like others have said before, go in with eyes open and you won't go far wrong with either. I've owned both, the M3 when nearly new and the E39 M5 upto a year ago. Cars are chalk and cheese, for me the M5 is the better all rounder and always felt far more special than the M3.
Which ever car you buy will have the odd hiccup but so long as you buy wisely nothing is the end of the world! I ran my E39 for nearly 4 years and had the usual cam position sensors fail, had to fit new brake discs at the front etc but kept a few quid aside so was never an issue. The important thing is it never let me down.
If you find a car you like may I suggest you speak to Phil Crouch at CPC automotive, he is a bit of an M genius, especially with E39 M5's, he would be the man to check and point out any pitfalls. His number is 01494 766661 and he is a mile or so off the M25 in Chorley Wood.
Good Luck Ian
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RobboC
Original Poster
799 posts
131 months
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Brilliant, many thanks!
I know I should really have abut £8k for a decent M5, but budget will be more around £6500.
Noticed a 2000 on auto trader for £5245, 113,000 miles.
Seems a comically insane amount of car for the cash.
I wonder if it's worth employing the services of someone in the know to source one,...
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mr sagman
820 posts
106 months
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As said many times before the e39 M5 is a fabulous car, I was nervous before taking the plunge with mine narly 3.5 years (22k miles ago), But it has proved absolutely faultless, I normanlly change my cars every 12-18 months, But I cant find anything that comes close without spending silly money, buy one now, before more people latch onto how fantastic they are
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hygt2
147 posts
49 months
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Regarding the "emergency pot", I would keep maybe £3-4,000 in case you have a diff go or need a gearbox rebuilt.
Otherwise, most other repairs (electrics / sensors / suspension bushes / radiator / aircon condensors) would be in the hundreds and should not be more than £2,000. I would budget £2,000 for annual maintenance and general wear and tear items replacement at the annual service. My experience with mine varies between £700 and £1,850 annually over 4 years (exc. tyres!!)
I would search for a car with as many of the wear and tear items replaced. The youngest would be 10 year-old now and a lot of items deteriorate with time as well as mileage. I would budget for all suspension bushes, dampers and any other rubber parts replaced if it hasn't been done on any 10 year-old car.
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Trellis
437 posts
109 months
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RobboC said: Brilliant, many thanks!
I know I should really have abut £8k for a decent M5, but budget will be more around £6500.
Noticed a 2000 on auto trader for £5245, 113,000 miles.
Seems a comically insane amount of car for the cash.
I wonder if it's worth employing the services of someone in the know to source one,... be wary.......going in at the very bottom of the market is dangerous unless you know what you are looking at. as a beemer virgin, i'd say get someone onboard to help you look, or else up your sights and aim at a properly looked after car for £8k+........
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Trellis
437 posts
109 months
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you can easily get stung for a £2-£3k bill if you buy a wrongun, even something that looks nice on the outside can be a minefield
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E39 M5
20 posts
16 months
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i'v got 2 cos one is never enough lol one in LMB and DD is CB
on a serious note, go in with your eyes open and don't just buy the first one you see, every single M5 will drive different, in total i'v had/got 3 E39 M5's and none drive/drove the same
otherwise amazing cars, you'll love it
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gaz1234
1,970 posts
89 months
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Stingercut
211 posts
37 months
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I'd buy one that he's been maintained no expense spared by an enthusiast private seller, who had the means to look after it.
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Pip1968
244 posts
74 months
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I have had an e39 M5 for seven years now and love it to bits and cannot think of anything else to replace it that would be as pleasurable. In that time I have had two large bills on servicing the last one just a month ago (off the top of my head 2.5 and 2.6). I should add that both have been through BMW so you could probably cut those bills by a third (guessing here).
Anyway it has all the toys BT phone and widescreen satnav/tv along with pretty much all the usual extras - heated seats, xenons c/w AE, sound system. A brilliant motorway cruiser with about 300-350 miles on a spirited drive.
Get it checked out but go for it and would echo the previous poster who said get one from an enthusiast not someone who cannot afford to run it and has run it into the ground.
Pip
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andy3781
143 posts
45 months
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Hi,
i own both an e39 m5 and a e46 m3 at the moment and drive one every other day. I've had the M5 for nearly 4 years and can honestly say i haven't found anything for the same sort of money that would better it. It can be as docile and relaxed as an everyday 5 series or it can be a sports car with 4 doors. It really is that good that it's used every other day for the commute or a back road blast. The m3 is more mental and seems to want to be driven fast all the time, they are both very different. Yes the m3 is a slightly newer design and looks a bit fresher as a package but for a car for a jack of all then the m5 wins hands down. You could easily drive the m5 for hours on end and feel as if you've been traveling in a luxury car (which it is) the whole time. I don't echo some of the thoughts of others in relation to not buying at the cheaper end of the market. I bought mine 4 years ago at the very bottom end of the market and yes it did need a few things doing to bring back to its best but if you find a specialist and steer clear of bmw main dealers it can be an affordable car to run. Mine at present has 205k on the clock so that in itself is testament to the built quality. As long as they get serviced when needed and you look for a full history then i think they could go on for a long time. They love oil and super unleaded fuel but what other 5 litre car wouldn't. It depends on what your needs are, if you want to drive something mental all the time then the e46 but if your after something that can be relaxed and comfortable one minute bu then raw and raucous the next the M5 is by far the best bet.
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Trellis
437 posts
109 months
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they dont all love oil..... 
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andy3781
143 posts
45 months
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By everyday car standards they do...
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