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Kananga
Original Poster
319 posts
25 months
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Has anyone driven one ? We used to have a 40d and on paper the M50d seems a lot more powerful (about 30% up on power + torque)?
Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it.
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AreOut
327 posts
30 months
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No debate as they are not, but at least I don't mind even if it was a 3.0d 
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Kananga
Original Poster
319 posts
25 months
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AreOut said: No debate as they are not, but at least I don't mind even if it was a 3.0d 
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thegreatdogwood
210 posts
66 months
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Kananga said: Has anyone driven one ? We used to have a 40d and on paper the M50d seems a lot more powerful (about 30% up on power + torque)?
Been thinking of buying a Cayenne Diesel but have always had a soft spot for BMW's moon buggy....
Don't mean to start a debate about whether the M-Performance models are real //M cars - if this post belongs in the General BMW section, maybe one of the mods could please move it. Did you know that there is a Cayenne 4.2 V8 diesel being launched in November
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Kananga
Original Poster
319 posts
25 months
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thegreatdogwood said: Did you know that there is a Cayenne 4.2 V8 diesel being launched in November Yup, I had heard either the 4.2 or a bi-turbo 3.0. Either way, as assuming a vw unit of some kind ? My sense is that BMW has been more advanced in terms of diesel engine design. The new tri-turbo has some impressive stats. My assumption was that the cayenne will have a hefty price tag (>£70k with some spec?)
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Eastern boy
125 posts
10 months
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Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg
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Kananga
Original Poster
319 posts
25 months
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Eastern boy said: Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg I tend to agree with you Greg. Out of curiosity, would a car with comfort access be less likely to be stolen via OBD-reprogrammed keys ?
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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Kananga said: Eastern boy said: Big difference to drive over 40d, which may seem difficult to imagine, but power and torque is just immense.
I must confess to not having driven the Cayenne, however as you state it will probably be a derivitive of a VW unit, which in my opinion ( Unbiased of course ) just isn't quite up there with the BMW units yet.
Greg I tend to agree with you Greg. Out of curiosity, would a car with comfort access be less likely to be stolen via OBD-reprogrammed keys ? My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no.
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Robsti
4,533 posts
75 months
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Zod said: My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no. I thought you traded the M5 against the Aston?
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Skrambles
641 posts
133 months
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Zod said: My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no. You going to chance getting another?
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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Robsti said: Zod said: My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no. I thought you traded the M5 against the Aston? M5 was recovered.
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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Skrambles said: Zod said: My X5 50i had comfort access, as did my M5. Both were stolen that way, so no. You going to chance getting another? Think so. I'm going to write a very pointed letter to Mike Abbott when I do to say that if it happens again BMW will be very, very unhappy at what I will do.
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David 997t
326 posts
55 months
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I had one on demo for a few days and have to say they are quick (for a diesel bus!!). I have driven the 3.0l Cayenne Diesel and it feels very sluggish but haven't driven the new one.
I liked it so much I am going to order one for March to replace my current diesel car, they are by no means an M car as no 4x4 should be so in my eyes they should just badge it as an "M Sport" diesel at best, I will be ticking the de-badge option though!!!
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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Must try the 50d. We have a 40d on free loan from BMW at the moment and, while impressive for a diesel, it's much slower than the 50i. Similar torque figures, but it's about 100bhp down. The 50d will be interesting to try, given it's only 27bhp down and some way up on torque.
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HoHoHo
8,334 posts
119 months
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Zod said: Think so. I'm going to write a very pointed letter to Mike Abbott when I do to say that if it happens again BMW will be very, very unhappy at what I will do. And what might that be Zod?
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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HoHoHo said: Zod said: Think so. I'm going to write a very pointed letter to Mike Abbott when I do to say that if it happens again BMW will be very, very unhappy at what I will do. And what might that be Zod? Well, it would involve publicity, of course, but carefully targeted publicity.
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2.5pi
317 posts
51 months
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Would that be Tim Abbott, if so I've written to him in pointed terms and been given the "thatcham approved" brush off, as a result I've canned my new x5 order and after 20 plus new beemers am going elsewhere, when a company gets this complacent I vote with my wallet.
Cheers
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Skrambles
641 posts
133 months
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Zod said: Must try the 50d. We have a 40d on free loan from BMW at the moment and, while impressive for a diesel, it's much slower than the 50i. Similar torque figures, but it's about 100bhp down. The 50d will be interesting to try, given it's only 27bhp down and some way up on torque. I bought a 40d for my wife and I've been using it a lot while off work this summer. It's very quick and handles fairly well considering how big and heavy it is. I'd have gone for an X5M, but needed 7 seats. I'm sure the 50d will be amazingly quick, but will it offer any real economy advantage over a 50i? The diesels don't get near the published economy figures and the engines totally lack the soul of a v8.
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Skrambles
641 posts
133 months
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Zod said: Well, it would involve publicity, of course, but carefully targeted publicity. Why haven't you done this already? I would be on the warpath if this happened to me twice!
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Zod
23,367 posts
127 months
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Skrambles said: Zod said: Well, it would involve publicity, of course, but carefully targeted publicity. Why haven't you done this already? I would be on the warpath if this happened to me twice! The free loan of a brand new 40d from head office for as long as needed was helpful....
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