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Performance Friction or AP racing

Performance Friction or AP racing

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gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Both seem pricey, but which is the best?

Front pads/discs to be replaced soon frown

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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or stoptech or alcon?

griff7

624 posts

77 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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I have been using the performance friction 378mm discs front and back for 2 years now and they are by far the best that my friends and i have tried.We have used both performance friction and pagid pads and they are both good.The best package i have seen is a kit that uses the ap calipers and performance friction discs and is made in germany.
Andy

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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rough costs?

darreni

2,148 posts

182 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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gaz1234 said:
Both seem pricey, but which is the best?

Front pads/discs to be replaced soon frown
OE BMW discs & pads are around £300.

AP front kit is £2,200

Alcon F & R kit is £4k+
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gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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wow. ok, and the performance ones?

AngryApples

5,441 posts

177 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Not sure if its the same for AP, but with PF discs, once you buy the initial set you can then replace the disc rotors only (a LOT cheaper)

Have them on my E46 M3 and very happy (PF discs and pads)

ga41

148 posts

109 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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AngryApples said:
Not sure if its the same for AP, but with PF discs, once you buy the initial set you can then replace the disc rotors only (a LOT cheaper)

Have them on my E46 M3 and very happy (PF discs and pads)
It's the same with most big brake kits. AP Racing, Stoptech, Brembo, Alcon are all with 2 piece rotors.

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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how much are PF?

Pip1968

796 posts

116 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Most CSL drivers use Pagid pads (RS29/14s) I believe with PF discs although many track their car but I think they are denoted as fast road pads.

Pip

sumo69

2,018 posts

132 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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If anyone is interested, I have an AP BBK for sale that I had on my E39 M5 - I believe they fit on the E46 M3 and M3 CSL as well.

PM me if interested.

David

leem5

232 posts

128 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Will the PF disks fit the stoptech bells? I have the stoptech BBK and have heard the same that the PF disks are the better option if they can be fitted?

ga41

148 posts

109 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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leem5 said:
Will the PF disks fit the stoptech bells? I have the stoptech BBK and have heard the same that the PF disks are the better option if they can be fitted?
I was wondering the exact same thing but couldn't find an answer anywhere online... I know Performance Friction makes rotors that fit AP Racing kits but have no idea if they do for Stoptech...

shim

2,048 posts

120 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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what diameter and thickness of disc are the stoptech?

ga41

148 posts

109 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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shim said:
what diameter and thickness of disc are the stoptech?
On mine they are 355mm and 32mm thick (the same for M3's but there's also a larger kit available) but it's the way that they're mounted on the hats that's the important thing. Number of bolt holes, thickness of mounting screws etc. I emailed Performance Friction about this but havent had a reply yet...

ga41

148 posts

109 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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leem5 said:
Will the PF disks fit the stoptech bells? I have the stoptech BBK and have heard the same that the PF disks are the better option if they can be fitted?
Performance Friction has confirmed by email that they do not make anything that fits the Stoptech mounting holes. I sent them this document (http://www.stoptech.com/docs/technical-specifications/0511-aerorotor-data-sheet?sfvrsn=2) and Charlie from PF replied:

"Thanks for the information, I’m afraid we don’t have anything that will fit the bolt circle diameter (213.0mm)"

That said the Stoptech rotors are pretty good themselves and i wouldn't consider them to be the drawback of that particular kit. I'm very happy with my kit but i'm always on the lookout for other options to try!

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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what are the costs of the pf?

ga41

148 posts

109 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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gaz1234 said:
what are the costs of the pf?
I've found them for £730 for a set of fronts on www.part-box.com. It's for discs only to replace the factory ones.

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

131 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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griff7 said:
I have been using the performance friction 378mm discs front and back for 2 years now and they are by far the best that my friends and i have tried.We have used both performance friction and pagid pads and they are both good.The best package i have seen is a kit that uses the ap calipers and performance friction discs and is made in germany.
Andy
got any pics of yours? how much are oem discs?

leem5

232 posts

128 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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ga41 said:
leem5 said:
Will the PF disks fit the stoptech bells? I have the stoptech BBK and have heard the same that the PF disks are the better option if they can be fitted?
Performance Friction has confirmed by email that they do not make anything that fits the Stoptech mounting holes. I sent them this document (http://www.stoptech.com/docs/technical-specifications/0511-aerorotor-data-sheet?sfvrsn=2) and Charlie from PF replied:

"Thanks for the information, I’m afraid we don’t have anything that will fit the bolt circle diameter (213.0mm)"

That said the Stoptech rotors are pretty good themselves and i wouldn't consider them to be the drawback of that particular kit. I'm very happy with my kit but i'm always on the lookout for other options to try!
Thanks for that, at least we know where we stand now.
As for the stoptech disks, they have been faultless for me over the last three years, but on inspection recently they have perished badly on the 'cooling' fins. This isn't just surface rust either, luckily I have a spare set so will fit them. But do keep an eye open on them as mine looked fine until I took a closer look.