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Anyone finding the air conditioning a bit feeble? During the recent warm spell I've had both sides turned down to 16c and have only just about been cool enough. I put it down to the unusually warm weather, but then I used the MINI last week and found myself clicking the temperature up to 18c to avoid being too chilly.
Not in eco-pro mode. It does cool the car, just not particularly quickly or effectively. Are they all like this?
Not in eco-pro mode. It does cool the car, just not particularly quickly or effectively. Are they all like this?
Usually 19/20deg is fine.shim said:
M135 is not a great trAckday car, it lacks many features of an M car that make track use a bit more user friendly and also reliable.
If you were using an M135 hard on track I guess it wouldn't last very long tbh.
I absolutely guarantee E46 M3 is substantially faster on track than an M135 even stock.
Not so sure about that... Whilst the M135i was never designed as a track car the only thing the M135i is really missing is the diff. Its quicker in the straights and the brakes are way way better (speaking from experience, owned a z4mc which had the CSL brake set up that was quite frankly rubbish. They couldn't even cope with fast road driving..!!). The M135 is a bit lighter too... tyres will also have an impact, so the e46 would also have to be on top rubber like the MSS' which come as standard on the m135... however, if you upgrade the brakes on the e46 m3, then it would certainly make for a more fun track car with that diff and chassis set up. All in my opinion of course. If you were using an M135 hard on track I guess it wouldn't last very long tbh.
I absolutely guarantee E46 M3 is substantially faster on track than an M135 even stock.
Wiggwam said:
Not so sure about that... Whilst the M135i was never designed as a track car the only thing the M135i is really missing is the diff. Its quicker in the straights and the brakes are way way better (speaking from experience, owned a z4mc which had the CSL brake set up that was quite frankly rubbish. They couldn't even cope with fast road driving..!!). The M135 is a bit lighter too... tyres will also have an impact, so the e46 would also have to be on top rubber like the MSS' which come as standard on the m135... however, if you upgrade the brakes on the e46 m3, then it would certainly make for a more fun track car with that diff and chassis set up. All in my opinion of course.
I'd agree I don't think there would be much in it. The 135 would have the m3 licked out of corners and under brakes even without the LSD.With upgraded brakes on the m3 I think it would probably swing back the other way.
If the 135 had the dynamic dampers that would help as well, it feels much more tied down with it in sport.
I don't think the 135 would make a good track car as standard though. It's heavy and the tyre compound is quite soft.
I did a trackday a couple of weeks ago and there was a guy there with a 135i. By lunchtime the outside edge of his front tyres were toast.
Also as others have said the steering feel really isn't in the same league. The E46 has miles nicer steering.
I think the speed may be similar but I think the 135 would be scrappier about it, the M3 would have more poise and control although ultimately wouldn't be any quicker.
Ignoring track specific rubber, the MPSS is the best tyre in the UHP / Max Performance segment, and certainly not quite soft when compared to its rivals.
I own both. I'd get annoyed at the lack of diff in my M135i on track, and I'd get annoyed at the M3 brakes.
Apart from that, there's not a huge amount in it as to which one I'd want to take out.
I own both. I'd get annoyed at the lack of diff in my M135i on track, and I'd get annoyed at the M3 brakes.
Apart from that, there's not a huge amount in it as to which one I'd want to take out.
jon- said:
Ignoring track specific rubber, the MPSS is the best tyre in the UHP / Max Performance segment, and certainly not quite soft when compared to its rivals.
I own both. I'd get annoyed at the lack of diff in my M135i on track, and I'd get annoyed at the M3 brakes.
Apart from that, there's not a huge amount in it as to which one I'd want to take out.
Agreed they are great tyres but on a 30+ degree day on track they didn't look like they had worn well. these aren't the actual tyres but they looked a bit like this:I own both. I'd get annoyed at the lack of diff in my M135i on track, and I'd get annoyed at the M3 brakes.
Apart from that, there's not a huge amount in it as to which one I'd want to take out.
Some more negative camber would probably help I suppose...
Hired a car for a long work trip to visit the sort of client where turning up in a brand new 'sporty' BMW in a lairy blue colour might be frowned upon.
I was hoping for a Focus/Astra/Golf in black or silver. I was upgraded to this...
I do hope they appreciate my economical choice of engine.
I was hoping for a Focus/Astra/Golf in black or silver. I was upgraded to this...
I do hope they appreciate my economical choice of engine.
Oh dear.
Whilst on the topic of economy. What are people averaging in theirs since taking ownership?
Mine's a manual, I've averaged 29mpg so far over 4,800 miles. Most of my driving is a 17 mile stop/start commute along the A40 into West London. Since I started using Eco-Pro mode more and more I have noticed a good jump in econonomy (33-36mpg on my commute on average now, up from around 27-29mpg in comfort mode). Managed one motorway and A-road journey in the small hours at 47mpg over 35 miles!
Obviously at the weekend my right foot seems to weigh far more, hence the overrall average.
Accelebrate said:
Hired a car for a long work trip to visit the sort of client where turning up in a brand new 'sporty' BMW in a lairy blue colour might be frowned upon
You really have to know what an M135i is, to 99% of the world it's just another 1 series diesel with the msport kit.
jon- said:
Accelebrate said:
Hired a car for a long work trip to visit the sort of client where turning up in a brand new 'sporty' BMW in a lairy blue colour might be frowned upon
You really have to know what an M135i is, to 99% of the world it's just another 1 series diesel with the msport kit.
I get away with my F10 M5, the majority of my clients simply think it's a 5 series.
DeltaTango said:
Oh dear.
Whilst on the topic of economy. What are people averaging in theirs since taking ownership?
Mine's a manual, I've averaged 29mpg so far over 4,800 miles. Most of my driving is a 17 mile stop/start commute along the A40 into West London. Since I started using Eco-Pro mode more and more I have noticed a good jump in econonomy (33-36mpg on my commute on average now, up from around 27-29mpg in comfort mode). Managed one motorway and A-road journey in the small hours at 47mpg over 35 miles!
Obviously at the weekend my right foot seems to weigh far more, hence the overrall average.
Recently though I've been trying to economise and using eco pro as much as I can and generally sticking to speed limits (with occasional bursts of sport + for passing dawdling traffic). On my daily commute which is all a roads and town plus some M4 driving I'm in the high 30's with the last tank getting me 417 miles.
I think that's pretty amazing....
Edited by rm163603 on Wednesday 13th August 13:29
I don't know how you guys do it... I have a 4 cylinder 125i Auto and can never get the average economy above 24mpg.
It might be something to do with the fact that my commute is 4 miles each way, but takes circa 40 mins. That's central London traffic for you unfortunately. And I don't tend to tread lightly on the accelerator either. But still... that's terrible in comparison to your 6 cylinder figures.
It might be something to do with the fact that my commute is 4 miles each way, but takes circa 40 mins. That's central London traffic for you unfortunately. And I don't tend to tread lightly on the accelerator either. But still... that's terrible in comparison to your 6 cylinder figures.
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