M135I winter tyres??

[CRB14]

SKM1984 said:

You might get traction but how will you steer?

I've been ok without winter tyres for the last 12 winters but this is my first rwd car. Plus the most powerful I've ever owned. I figured most people struggle with traction.

[HoHoHo]

CRB14 said:

SKM1984 said:

You might get traction but how will you steer?

I've been ok without winter tyres for the last 12 winters but this is my first rwd car. Plus the most powerful I've ever owned. I figured most people struggle with traction a rwd BMW.

Edited for accuracy

All of the BM's I've owned (aside from the X3 & X5) have been shocking in snow to the point of becoming a large white garden ornament for some weeks if there's proper snow!

[SKM1984]

Everything I've read and heard worries me about using it in the winter so winter tyres were a no brainer, this is my first rwd car.

I need to be able to get where I want to go, my winter tyres cost me £300, say 10 a wheel to change the tyres, for that price I'll have a lot more confidence and peace of mind that I can actually get somewhere.

[HoHoHo]

SKM1984 said:

Everything I've read and heard worries me about using it in the winter so winter tyres were a no brainer, this is my first rwd car.

I need to be able to get where I want to go, my winter tyres cost me £300, say 10 a wheel to change the tyres, for that price I'll have a lot more confidence and peace of mind that I can actually get somewhere.

I don't think you need to be worried on a normal daily basis - drive your car in the correct fashion on summer tyres on a cold morning and you'll still be safe.

Drive it like a tt and you'll be arse end in a ditch.

I'm due a new F10 M5 in 5 weeks and will however be putting winters on it.......just in case

[Godzilla]

SKM1984 said:

There's a thread on the babybmw forum about an 8x18 et32 on the back and needed to add negative camber to clear.

You've got another inch on that!

Can't remember what et the standard rims are, but 32 offset means those 8 inchers would stick out 8mm more than my 40et ones, but yes there would then be another half inch of rim sticking out either side.

Oh well, will see what happens. If they don't fit, I'm sending them straight back. I guess I have to mount the tyres first to be sure either way though, which is a shame.

[jimbooo]

Thanks for all the input guys, so in summary after calling round a few tyre dealers and realising there is bugger all in 245/35/18 winter is it ok to go 225/40/18 all round on the winter tyres.

I really dont want to spend £1500 on a wheel and tyre package so need options on standard rims.

Moving house so budget is limited by the wifes furniture shopping!

[nick30]

jimbooo said:

Thanks for all the input guys, so in summary after calling round a few tyre dealers and realising there is bugger all in 245/35/18 winter is it ok to go 225/40/18 all round on the winter tyres.

I really dont want to spend £1500 on a wheel and tyre package so need options on standard rims.

Moving house so budget is limited by the wifes furniture shopping!

Thats what i did last year with no problems, will be mounting them back on next weekend. Got mine for 400 quid all in so was a no brainer to save the tread of the supersports for a few months and safe in the knowledge i can get to work whatever the weather as they really got tested last year.

[ratty6464]

CRB14 said:

Daft question maybe but could you fit winters to just the rears? Or would there be little point?

I did a full winter with summer tyres on the front and winters on the back of a z4 coupe.

Did the trick of stopping me getting stuck on the drive etc. and handled well in the frost / cold damp. Just had to take it very easy on the compacted snow, as it would get going but would slide on the brakes as when the front loses braking grip, the car just slides on the abs.

I'd advise a full set of 4. but if you cant afford it, just winters in the rear is better than nothing and it will stop you getting stuck.

[Wolands Advocate]

See thread on M135i winter wheels here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[jwhittaker]

Looking at options for winter wheels & tyres for the M135i.

Don't want to pay full on stealer prices for the combo wheel and tyre packages if I can help it. What OEM rims actually fit the M135? I have come across some really nice refurbed BMW MV1 18" alloys on eBay. Anyone running these? How could I check they fit before handing over my cash?

[goldblum]

Don't bother you'll just lose the finer aspects of the handling that make the car special. Is winter on the way?

[JMBMWM5]

jwhittaker said:

Looking at options for winter wheels & tyres for the M135i.

Don't want to pay full on stealer prices for the combo wheel and tyre packages if I can help it. What OEM rims actually fit the M135? I have come across some really nice refurbed BMW MV1 18" alloys on eBay. Anyone running these? How could I check they fit before handing over my cash?

Use this, and fit winters you will not regret it.

http://www.willtheyfit.com/

[jwhittaker]

Thanks will try that site.

I read on another forum that the BMW X1 steels will fit the M135? Anyone doe this. I prefer some steels over alloys for winter if i'm honest.

[corvettedave]

HoHoHo said:

I don't think you need to be worried on a normal daily basis - drive your car in the correct fashion on summer tyres on a cold morning and you'll still be safe.

Drive it like a tt and you'll be arse end in a ditch.

I'm due a new F10 M5 in 5 weeks and will however be putting winters on it.......just in case

agree, iam on supersports no issues on wet cold roads, stick it in eco-pro and your fine, if it snows stay at home or buy a 4x4, don't see the point of winter tyres for 2 days of the year when it snows

[estoril]

Two things here, one on-topic and one off-topic (sort of).

I have an M135i and have the BMW winter wheel/tyre set as recommended by them (224/40 x18 all round), they are run-flat Pirelli Sottozero and are crap, I run Michelin Alpin (non run flat) of the same size on another car (admittedly it's a Skoda Superb so no comparison in terms of performance) and they are a much better tyre.

It may be because they are run-flat but the rubber does "feel" hard when compared to the Michelin, and it is way too easy to break traction when you compare them to the PSS that I run in the warmer months. Next time I'll be buying non run-flat Michelin Alpin...

So the off-topic bit is the the PSS's, they are a great tyre for road use but their weakness is quickly found if you do any track days, the sidewalls are just too soft, they roll on the rims way too easily and wear the shoulders out alarming quickly, and it's not just me, I have seen another 2 cars who do occasional track days have the same problem.

Now I haven'tried them yet on the M135i but I have a set of Yoko A008R's on my M3 (road car) and from what I have seen and read (mostly US based track day stuff) the A008R is a much better option IF you intend to track the car at all, and as a bonus they are a bit cheaper too...

[corvettedave]

corvettedave said:

agree, iam on supersports no issues on wet cold roads, stick it in eco-pro and your fine, if it snows stay at home or buy a 4x4, don't see the point of winter tyres for 2 days of the year when it snows

iam wrong, garage said i was on pilot SS, but Ive looked, iam on bridge-stones, which are such a hard compound tyre compared to any michelin's ive had before

do u get runflat winter tyres??

Ive got a march 14 plate m135i, anyone with the same age, which tyre did it come with??

[jon-]

corvettedave said:

corvettedave said:

agree, iam on supersports no issues on wet cold roads, stick it in eco-pro and your fine, if it snows stay at home or buy a 4x4, don't see the point of winter tyres for 2 days of the year when it snows

iam wrong, garage said i was on pilot SS, but Ive looked, iam on bridge-stones, which are such a hard compound tyre compared to any michelin's ive had before

do u get runflat winter tyres??

Ive got a march 14 plate m135i, anyone with the same age, which tyre did it come with??

The Bridgestone are the runflat option for the M135i, or at least it was initially.

Check to see if it says RFT anywhere on the tyre. They're no where near as good as the Michelins.

Yes, you can get runflat winters. Not many people bother though.

[corvettedave]

jon- said:

The Bridgestone are the runflat option for the M135i, or at least it was initially.

Check to see if it says RFT anywhere on the tyre. They're no where near as good as the Michelins.

Yes, you can get runflat winters. Not many people bother though.

yeah they have rsc on them, which means runflat, iam going to buy some pilot super sports, and a bmw mobility kit thing, and enjoy some better grip etc!

[AlistairF]

It's that time of year again when the winter tyre question comes up. I am running the standard 225/40 18 and 245/35 18 Michelin Pilot Super Sports that I ran through last winter thinking it didn't really get that cold and it wasn't too slippery. Now with a spare new set of the same wheels a and tyres for the summer I thought I would put winters on my old alloys.

As this thread shows, there is only a Pirelli slottozero option in 245/35 18 which retail are kind £300 each!!! So, after some research I could:
- put 225/40 18s on all round which is a stretch on the rear 8.5" rims
- put 225/40 on the front and 255/35 18 on the rear

Using a tyre sizing tool off the internet it shows the circumference to be:
1975.1mm for the 245/35 18 original rears
1997.1mm for the 255/35 18
2001.8mm for the 225/40 18 original front

So it looks to me like the best fit option for the rears are the 255/35 18s that have less speedo error than the 225 option and still fit the rims. fronts remain 225/40 18

There are more plentiful options in these sizes, Michelin Alpin Pilot 4 or Pirelli sottozeros?

Which to go for?

[PTF]

goldblum said:

Don't bother you'll just lose the finer aspects of the handling that make the car special. Is winter on the way?

Nearly spat my lunch out at that post! Ha haaa!!