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But it isn't is it - adding every option to an M6 makes the car list at c.£120k. The three options of ceramics, B&O and Comp Pack come to £17k alone. Add one more tick in the full leather box and you're at £23k's worth of options.
Still, 32% off is great as that would still make a fully loaded M6 around £81k. Shame it'll still lose a further £20k+ in year one - I went into my M6 purchase eyes wide open and I suggest anyone else does the same - options will make next to no difference come resale.
Still, 32% off is great as that would still make a fully loaded M6 around £81k. Shame it'll still lose a further £20k+ in year one - I went into my M6 purchase eyes wide open and I suggest anyone else does the same - options will make next to no difference come resale.
Same as last quarter then. I have one coming in a little over a month that was £104k list and I'm paying £71.5k so 31.5%
As Palmball notes, if I trade it in the day after I will be lucky to get 55-60k. The problem is not just depreciation but liquidity, they just don't sell used - full stop. Who buys a 70k car used on a crazy apr? The same dozen or so are on the AUC (bar 1 or 2 I think) that have been since I first started looking before Christmas...
But I am well prepared for this and you only live once so you might as well enjoy it
As Palmball notes, if I trade it in the day after I will be lucky to get 55-60k. The problem is not just depreciation but liquidity, they just don't sell used - full stop. Who buys a 70k car used on a crazy apr? The same dozen or so are on the AUC (bar 1 or 2 I think) that have been since I first started looking before Christmas...
But I am well prepared for this and you only live once so you might as well enjoy it
If you're starting at the right price, yes... but remember this car is advertised at 95k base
Why they don't just set the RRP at a more sensible level to begin with rather than putting the sticker at 95k then offering everyone 27k off before you even start to haggle (and even publishing that fact on all the dealer sites) is beyond me... ah wait: marketing!
...but even this must backfire as surely the headline price dissuades plenty of less well informed potential customers
Why they don't just set the RRP at a more sensible level to begin with rather than putting the sticker at 95k then offering everyone 27k off before you even start to haggle (and even publishing that fact on all the dealer sites) is beyond me... ah wait: marketing!
...but even this must backfire as surely the headline price dissuades plenty of less well informed potential customers
Agreed, I don't think a well bought M6 loses anymore money than the best of it's competitors. If I went a bought a similarly spec'd C4S (list around £100k but without the huge discount), a car with undoubtedly less performance (but admittedly other redeeming benefits), I'd probably lose more physical cash in 1-2 years than an M6 with 30% off. Compare it to the (more) similarly performing yet hugely more expensive Turbo, as the Porsche will likely shed a lot more cash.
As for BMW pricing it lower in the first place, that would be far too sensible wouldn't it?!
The reality is though, the actual car itself is well worth the list price when viewed in the context of it's similarly priced competitors. It has as much performance, dynamics, refinement, luxury and build quality as any car I've owned or experienced - OK, it may not be as dynamic as my 911 Turbo or XKR-S but, as a blend of all those disciplines, it's undoubtedly the best. So, all this would suggest that it's pricing isn't that ridiculous yet unfortunately, the brand, it's volume needs and subsequent devaluing (by BMW's discounting) simply can't carry it off.
As for BMW pricing it lower in the first place, that would be far too sensible wouldn't it?!
The reality is though, the actual car itself is well worth the list price when viewed in the context of it's similarly priced competitors. It has as much performance, dynamics, refinement, luxury and build quality as any car I've owned or experienced - OK, it may not be as dynamic as my 911 Turbo or XKR-S but, as a blend of all those disciplines, it's undoubtedly the best. So, all this would suggest that it's pricing isn't that ridiculous yet unfortunately, the brand, it's volume needs and subsequent devaluing (by BMW's discounting) simply can't carry it off.
Regrettably I don't get the same as Richard. I assume Richards average includes a reasonable amount of motorway driving because the car will easily do 27-28mpg on a 80-90mph motorway journey. Alas, my week tends to be made up more of urban driving then, when I'm let loose of the stop-start grind, it doesn't get driven in the most economical manner!
My average is around 19mpg as a result but, to put that into context, in similar driving my various AMG's/Jag's would do mid-teens and the previous V10 M6 would do low teens, or even a touch less. I get about mid-20's from our M135i (similar to what Richard gets out of his M6!) so, for car of the M6's power and weight, I can't complain about its economy!
My average is around 19mpg as a result but, to put that into context, in similar driving my various AMG's/Jag's would do mid-teens and the previous V10 M6 would do low teens, or even a touch less. I get about mid-20's from our M135i (similar to what Richard gets out of his M6!) so, for car of the M6's power and weight, I can't complain about its economy!
Thanks for that, I assume that 30% is achievable but as you say, it all depends. I have just bought an SQ5 for Mrs Blue and used Orangewheels, they came back with 9% which my local dealer matched, it was roughly double the next best and I can't praise them enough, in fact I feel a little guilty at not giving them the business in the end, which is why I am recommending them. I can't quite believe those lead times though, surely that can't be for a car to order?
Blue62 said:
Thanks for that, I assume that 30% is achievable but as you say, it all depends. I have just bought an SQ5 for Mrs Blue and used Orangewheels, they came back with 9% which my local dealer matched, it was roughly double the next best and I can't praise them enough, in fact I feel a little guilty at not giving them the business in the end, which is why I am recommending them. I can't quite believe those lead times though, surely that can't be for a car to order?
That was what I was told when I enquired a few weeks back. Its for a car built to spec..might be something to do with the low numbers of cars they sell/build hence small lead times? Donno....AMDB9 said:
Lead times quoted to me were 4-7 weeks so If you want a car in Jan you would need to order around October time.
The 30% is not readily available and dependings on dealer contributions and your negotiation skills! 19-22% is more common.
Yes they were the GC was available at £98125 with a manufacturers contribution of £18000 and dealer contribution of £10300 that is circa 29% and the same percentage was available on the Coupe.The 30% is not readily available and dependings on dealer contributions and your negotiation skills! 19-22% is more common.
I for one had been watching closely as am tempted and thought 30% would be easily achievable but appears from what others have said should the new deals come out the same or comparable then 32% is not beyond the realms.
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