Need some urgent advice for my CSL - BMW warranty issue
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MOTK said:
Link suggests that it is with the VOSA inspector and BMW garages agreeing that they would fail it on an MOT if they could see the cracks.If it would fail then BMW MOT cover for approved used should pay for the repair no questions asked. [I had new middle and rear exhaust, alternator, auxiliary belts, suspension top mounts, differential seals and a new set of rear springs on mine for its first year under the bmw warranty. Go to a BMW garage with an in house warranty approval guy then they don't have to haggle sending pictures and can give the go ahead straight away.]
Crusoe said:
Link suggests that it is with the VOSA inspector and BMW garages agreeing that they would fail it on an MOT if they could see the cracks.
That's kind of the point, 'if' they can see the cracks. It is not an area that would normally be inspected, and I would imagine there have been countless m3s through MOTs with both tester and owner blissfully unaware.If you put this car through an MOT without telling the tester the cracks were there I have no doubt it would pass.
Get it MOT tested right now.
Take it somewhere else- tell them before the test that cracks are visible and it needs to fail so you can get it fixed under warranty.
This is a link to proof of the MOT cover:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/benefit...
Just check you are free to use an independent garage for the MOT.
Take it somewhere else- tell them before the test that cracks are visible and it needs to fail so you can get it fixed under warranty.
This is a link to proof of the MOT cover:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/benefit...
Just check you are free to use an independent garage for the MOT.
Is the "subframe cracking" the same as Z3s (mostly ZMs)? Boot floor spot weld failure. If so, some Zs were done under good will if the car had a FBMWSH (a handful may have been older than 10 years old).
If it is the same problem, it only costs £4k if it's done by BMW. I did mine and it was less than £100 DIY.
If it is the same problem, it only costs £4k if it's done by BMW. I did mine and it was less than £100 DIY.
jonlk said:
trawler said:
Regarding the gear box you need to go out and give the car a good thrashing to make it work properly.
I cannot be 100% but at c30mph in neutral on a straight bit of road I thought you either pushed or pulled both paddles and waited for 10secs for some sort of reset. 
No real updates. Going to collect the car tomorrow and now already involving the supplying dealer and BMW UK.
If it is not corrosion I cannot see how it cannot be covered by BMW Approved Warranty. Particularly a car with 30,000 and FBMWSH supplied by the BMW network.
Like the MoT idea. Going to roll with that.
Will keep you posted, this will run and run......
If it is not corrosion I cannot see how it cannot be covered by BMW Approved Warranty. Particularly a car with 30,000 and FBMWSH supplied by the BMW network.
Like the MoT idea. Going to roll with that.
Will keep you posted, this will run and run......
Rick101 said:
The warranty is strictly 10 years from build date, not registered date. I suspect it was built Dec/Jan??
The build date is shown on the NSF suspension mount iirc.
You may get goodwill if you have FBMWSH and push the fact it is low mileage approved used.
Lots of advice on M3 Cutters if you're not registered there already.
I recommend you ignore anything you read on cutters...mainly drivel.The build date is shown on the NSF suspension mount iirc.
You may get goodwill if you have FBMWSH and push the fact it is low mileage approved used.
Lots of advice on M3 Cutters if you're not registered there already.
Edited by Rick101 on Thursday 24th April 08:05
There is no bodywork warranty. BMW offered apparently 10years goodwill on the subframe issue. Anti corrosion warranty was 6years on pre 2094 cars and 12 years on post 2004 cars but I guess this is a fracture caused by stress and not corrosion but if it were me I would argue that the cracks are rusty!!!
Elms are fantastic and in this matter the techs and desk are excellent. If he gets no joy or support from them, you will find it harder to get anything from BMW but I think if you approached this off radar to BMW, stating purchase, warranty, age, mileage I think they will give in but unlikely dealer will make it work in this case a they have strict rules.
shim said:
I recommend you ignore anything you read on cutters...mainly drivel.
There is no bodywork warranty. BMW offered apparently 10years goodwill on the subframe issue. Anti corrosion warranty was 6years on pre 2094 cars and 12 years on post 2004 cars but I guess this is a fracture caused by stress and not corrosion but if it were me I would argue that the cracks are rusty!!!
Elms are fantastic and in this matter the techs and desk are excellent. If he gets no joy or support from them, you will find it harder to get anything from BMW but I think if you approached this off radar to BMW, stating purchase, warranty, age, mileage I think they will give in but unlikely dealer will make it work in this case a they have strict rules.
This.There is no bodywork warranty. BMW offered apparently 10years goodwill on the subframe issue. Anti corrosion warranty was 6years on pre 2094 cars and 12 years on post 2004 cars but I guess this is a fracture caused by stress and not corrosion but if it were me I would argue that the cracks are rusty!!!
Elms are fantastic and in this matter the techs and desk are excellent. If he gets no joy or support from them, you will find it harder to get anything from BMW but I think if you approached this off radar to BMW, stating purchase, warranty, age, mileage I think they will give in but unlikely dealer will make it work in this case a they have strict rules.
Our very nice Dec 2003 registered M3 was inspected late last year and the boot floor was found to be cracked and with the spot welds pulling.
Despite numerous calls to my Local Main Agent, BMW aparently Still havnt got back to them to confirm whether they are going to replace the boot floor etc. Its really starting to p me off now, so yet again i will be calling the Dealer in the morning.
The front wing arch lips ( caused by the inner arch liner chaffing on the inner arch ) are also just starting to bubble. Been told that the car as its an 04 model IS covered by the 12 year corrosion warranty.
Despite numerous calls to my Local Main Agent, BMW aparently Still havnt got back to them to confirm whether they are going to replace the boot floor etc. Its really starting to p me off now, so yet again i will be calling the Dealer in the morning.
The front wing arch lips ( caused by the inner arch liner chaffing on the inner arch ) are also just starting to bubble. Been told that the car as its an 04 model IS covered by the 12 year corrosion warranty.
neutral 3 said:
Our very nice Dec 2003 registered M3 was inspected late last year and the boot floor was found to be cracked and with the spot welds pulling.
Despite numerous calls to my Local Main Agent, BMW aparently Still havnt got back to them to confirm whether they are going to replace the boot floor etc. Its really starting to p me off now, so yet again i will be calling the Dealer in the morning.
The front wing arch lips ( caused by the inner arch liner chaffing on the inner arch ) are also just starting to bubble. Been told that the car as its an 04 model IS covered by the 12 year corrosion warranty.
When mine was done, the approval took less than a week. Despite numerous calls to my Local Main Agent, BMW aparently Still havnt got back to them to confirm whether they are going to replace the boot floor etc. Its really starting to p me off now, so yet again i will be calling the Dealer in the morning.
The front wing arch lips ( caused by the inner arch liner chaffing on the inner arch ) are also just starting to bubble. Been told that the car as its an 04 model IS covered by the 12 year corrosion warranty.
You need to re read the above posts - the boot floor cracks are covered for 10 years from build date. It is a goodwill repair, not part of the anti corrosion warranty or any extended warranty.
Some dealers are also insist on full bmw service history, less than 100k miles & no modifications, while some seem less bothered.
The only consistency seems to be the 10 year limit.
darreni said:
When mine was done, the approval took less than a week.
You need to re read the above posts - the boot floor cracks are covered for 10 years from build date. It is a goodwill repair, not part of the anti corrosion warranty or any extended warranty.
Some dealers are also insist on full bmw service history, less than 100k miles & no modifications, while some seem less bothered.
The only consistency seems to be the 10 year limit.
Why is it not covered by approved used warranty? You read their terms and conditions and it excludes corrosion, but this is not that.You need to re read the above posts - the boot floor cracks are covered for 10 years from build date. It is a goodwill repair, not part of the anti corrosion warranty or any extended warranty.
Some dealers are also insist on full bmw service history, less than 100k miles & no modifications, while some seem less bothered.
The only consistency seems to be the 10 year limit.
shim said:
I recommend you ignore anything you read on cutters...mainly drivel.
There is no bodywork warranty. BMW offered apparently 10years goodwill on the subframe issue. Anti corrosion warranty was 6years on pre 2094 cars and 12 years on post 2004 cars but I guess this is a fracture caused by stress and not corrosion but if it were me I would argue that the cracks are rusty!!!
Elms are fantastic and in this matter the techs and desk are excellent. If he gets no joy or support from them, you will find it harder to get anything from BMW but I think if you approached this off radar to BMW, stating purchase, warranty, age, mileage I think they will give in but unlikely dealer will make it work in this case a they have strict rules.
I would argue that BMW should cover any known faults if purchased from a main dealer and under warranty, and lets face it, this is a well known fault, There is no bodywork warranty. BMW offered apparently 10years goodwill on the subframe issue. Anti corrosion warranty was 6years on pre 2094 cars and 12 years on post 2004 cars but I guess this is a fracture caused by stress and not corrosion but if it were me I would argue that the cracks are rusty!!!
Elms are fantastic and in this matter the techs and desk are excellent. If he gets no joy or support from them, you will find it harder to get anything from BMW but I think if you approached this off radar to BMW, stating purchase, warranty, age, mileage I think they will give in but unlikely dealer will make it work in this case a they have strict rules.
If a main dealer is able to sell a car as approved used, it's absurd that they won't take responsibility for such a fundamental flaw, while still under warranty. When a bodyshell becomes a consumable item, we are all in trouble.
I hope you are right about the off radar approach, and the OP gets this sorted.
andyeds1234 said:
When a bodyshell becomes a consumable item, we are all in trouble.
That's the issue here, it is bodywork that affects the structural integrity of the car, not a cosmetic. And is the reason BMW have been doing goodwill fixes for cars up to ten years old. It's too late for that, but if the car was sold with a 12 month approved used warranty, I'd go down that route at this point I think.
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