E30 M3 prices

[Paracetamol]

E30M3SE said:

Japanese version car did not have dogleg box, and if you run the VIN through the BMW parts system it shows the car fitted with a 5 speed overdrive gearbox.

The VIN on that car is WBSAK050401893445

Vehicle Identification Number WBSAK050401893445
Type AK05
Model M3 - EUR
Development Code E30
Chassis LIM
Steering LL
Doors 2
Engine S14
Displacement 2.30
Power 158
Drivetrain HECK
Transmission MECH
Color Diamantschwarz Metallic - 181
Upholstery Anthrazit Stoff - 0304
Production Plant
Production Date 1988-03-01


Options
361 Ausstellfenster, Hinten Ausstellfenster, Hinten
401 Sliding/vent Roof, Electric Schiebe-hebedach, Elektrisch
410 Window Lifts, Electric At Front Fensterheber, Elektrisch Vorn
423 Floor Mats, Velour Fussmatten In Velours
530 Air Conditioning Klimaanlage
551 On-board Computer Ii W Remote Control Bordcomputer Ii Mit Fernbedienung
807 Japan Version Japan-ausfuehrung

Edited by E30M3SE on Sunday 1st May 13:56

This makes more sense.lot of hassle to get the full dog leg experience! Still..if it's a good car then it looks like a sound buy

[E30M3SE]

In the US, no price unfortunately,

http://www.udriveautomobiles.com/vehicle-details/1...

[Paracetamol]

http://www.classicheroes.co.uk/cars-for-sale/2258/...

This appears to be nice...

[Mr_B]

I didn't discount the car or suggest anything negative about this car or Jap imports. I did highlight it though as originally it would be similar to US spec with a different box and and diff and that someone has changed at least the box at some point but maybe not the diff. It's all good info if you are looking to buy. If both have been changed, then I don't really see it as any different to a comparable 195bhp car, most of which are German imports. Someone on E30Zone went and viewed the car and said it was very good and rust free.

[Paracetamol]

[quote=Mr_B]I didn't discount the car or suggest anything negative about this car or Jap imports. I did highlight it though as originally it would be similar to US spec with a different box and and diff and that someone has changed at least the box at some point but maybe not the diff. It's all good info if you are looking to buy. If both have been changed, then I don't really see it as any different to a comparable 195bhp car, most of which are German imports. Someone on E30Zone went and viewed the car and said it was very good and rust free.[/quote?

How did you get the vin?

Also if I send you my vin can you decode it? Do you work at a dealership?

[E30M3SE]

Paracetamol said:

Mr_B said:

I didn't discount the car or suggest anything negative about this car or Jap imports. I did highlight it though as originally it would be similar to US spec with a different box and and diff and that someone has changed at least the box at some point but maybe not the diff. It's all good info if you are looking to buy. If both have been changed, then I don't really see it as any different to a comparable 195bhp car, most of which are German imports. Someone on E30Zone went and viewed the car and said it was very good and rust free.

?

How did you get the vin?

Also if I send you my vin can you decode it? Do you work at a dealership?

From the VRM.

Yes and no, but am in the trade.

The car from Japan is not a 195bhp car, it's AK05 chassis code with 158KW motor, so 215PS.

[Mr_B]

My bad. I thought engines were all the same and unchanged, that must be US spec then.
The guy posted a video of the car on YouTube, rather unwisely I thought showing the full VIN.
Search for 'BMW VIN decoder' and enter the details and get spec back.

[E30M3SE]

528Sport said:

E30M3SE said:

Josco010 said:

It's sad that someone can come here and claim someone's car is worth just 5k, jealousy is a terrible thing. My old 2006 push bicycle is worth more than 8k let alone a pure homologation special. Even if the engine is not genuine to the car or needs work how in the hell can it be worth just 5k?? The boot spoiler alone is worth £1.500 on its own and the front lip another £250- £300 minus the bumper. Some will go to any lengths to crucify a car they do not know anything about, just cause they can't afford it. Sad... Whatever the reason the car is parked up who knows and just as (thank for for free speech on the Internet ) any one can say what they want fair enough, if a seller chooses to sell their car for crazy sum more power to them if someone feels it's worth the asking price ridiculous or not. Porsche dealers/ owners are doing it, same as Ferrari owners and dealers, yet the e30 has real pedigree that cars like 964's or 993's don't have unless the RS/GT3rs models yet no one complains. This car is not mine nor do I know the owner, but the comment of some reeks of our jealousy or spite for someone else's luck in having something special. If a constructive criticism or comment is not possible best to stay quiet.

First off, they're not Sport Evo seat.



The front spoiler that you claim to be worth £250-300 only cost £200 new from BMW and that car only has the lower lip spoiler not the correct Sport Evo set up.



The rear spoiler is not genuine as the interface between the gurney flap and main spoiler is wrong, as previously said probably fibreglass so worth about £150 not £1500.

Where is the AC79XX VIN number?

I hope that car does sell for the asking price as all that does it bump up the values of all decent genuine E30 M3 that many posters on this thread actually own.

Edited by E30M3SE on Friday 29th April 19:34

Josco010,
I can assume your post is a dig at me and my comments about the £5K.
Well bonny lad I owned an E30M3 for many years thanks, great cars. I no longer do own by choice.
This car in question is a shed. Damaged interior, fake boot spoiler, rust, wrong engine, more rust, those seats WTF, faded paint.... How can it be worth £20K?

And If I wanted to get another E30M3 I could afford one thanks but I don't want one (been there) I find it sad that these cars change hands for so much cash putting real enthusiasts miles away from ever owning one.

If I still had mine I'd be happy and use it as much as possible.
I sold mine to finance a house purchase, sad day, not because I hoped it would go up in value but because I loved driving it.

All my opinion :-)

Apparently a £17.5K offer............



would appear we are all undervaluing our cars.

[E30M3SE]

RHD Sport Evo, £82.5K

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C724432#

[Bayerische]

E30M3SE said:

Apparently a £17.5K offer............



would appear we are all undervaluing our cars.

Looks like the buyer saw sense and retracted his offer (if there was a buyer, I doubt it), the ad no longer mentions it.

I note that the seller has also removed the info about the car not being a Sport Evo.

I smell desperation!!

[Bayerische]

E30M3SE said:

RHD Sport Evo, £82.5K

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C724432#

With the RHD conversion, it has seriously devalued that car.

It would make sense to return it to LHD.

[E30M3SE]

The car is in New Zealand, in that market it hasn't been devalved as to use it it has to be RHD, iirc. In other markkets, yes, agreed.

[Welshbeef]

Bayerische said:

E30M3SE said:

Apparently a £17.5K offer............



would appear we are all undervaluing our cars.

Looks like the buyer saw sense and retracted his offer (if there was a buyer, I doubt it), the ad no longer mentions it.

I note that the seller has also removed the info about the car not being a Sport Evo.

I smell desperation!!

Assuming it's a E30 M3 std model in the condition from pics what's the consensus on value? There must be a floor to buy a car even its it's an utter wreck to take back to road worthy condition.

[528Sport]

Welshbeef said:

Bayerische said:

E30M3SE said:

Apparently a £17.5K offer............



would appear we are all undervaluing our cars.

Looks like the buyer saw sense and retracted his offer (if there was a buyer, I doubt it), the ad no longer mentions it.

I note that the seller has also removed the info about the car not being a Sport Evo.

I smell desperation!!

Assuming it's a E30 M3 std model in the condition from pics what's the consensus on value? There must be a floor to buy a car even its it's an utter wreck to take back to road worthy condition.

I said £5k max and I stick to that.
Rust is a key issue
Loads of parts NLA
Wrong engine
Awful interior.
The shell is wrecked.

I remember with mine getting the jacking points rebuilt as they'd rusted and the timing chain done in 2002 (ish) that bill was £1050. I dread to think what that would cost now.
I wonder what condition the scuttle panel is in and the metal work below that.
If I was to buy it (and I'm not that daft) I'd strip it, get it dipped to remove all rust and bodges. Then start rebuilding.
If you wanted an M3 that you knew was mint a full on rebuild could be done but you'd spend a long time sourcing parts with the niggle in the back of your mind you may never finish it 100%, any future resale value if dashed...

[E30M3SE]

Welshbeef said:

Assuming it's a E30 M3 std model in the condition from pics what's the consensus on value? There must be a floor to buy a car even its it's an utter wreck to take back to road worthy condition.

The MOT history doesn't inspire much confidence, although the work could have been do to a high standard, then again.......


Registration number: H507NHP


Vehicle make BMW Vehicle model M3 Date first used 31 December 1990 Fuel type Petrol Colour Red


MOT history of this vehicle

Test date 4 February 2012
Expiry date 3 February 2013
Test Result Pass
Odometer reading 147,553 kms
MOT test number 8389 5593 2039

Test date 23 December 2008
Expiry date 22 December 2009
Test Result Pass
Odometer reading 142,041 kms
MOT test number 6347 1845 8365

Test date 15 May 2008
Test Result Fail
Odometer reading 141,927 kms
MOT test number 3832 8623 8100
Reason(s) for failure
Horn not working (1.6.2a)
Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content excessive (7.3.B.1a)
Exhaust emissions hydrocarbon content excessive (7.3.B.1b)
Offside Headlamp aim too low (1.8)
Nearside Headlamp not in good working order adversely affecting beam image (1.2.4a)
Nearside Front Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Offside Front Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Steering system excessively rough (2.2.D.1)

Advisory notice item(s)
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
heavy corrosion to o/s and n/s front floors
heavy corrosion to o/s and n/s front chassis legs around subframe mounting area

Test date 26 April 2007
Expiry date 25 April 2008
Test Result Pass
Odometer reading 141,914 miles
MOT test number 6619 5621 7106

Test date 20 October 2005
Expiry date 19 October 2006
Test Result Pass
Odometer reading 141,137 miles
MOT test number 3201 1379 5289

Test date 20 September 2005
Test Result Fail
Odometer reading 141,104 miles
MOT test number 8426 1346 5261
Reason(s) for failure
Nearside Front Upper Coil spring mounting corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.C.3c)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)

[E30M3SE]

528Sport said:

I said £5k max and I stick to that.
Rust is a key issue
Loads of parts NLA
Wrong engine
Awful interior.
The shell is wrecked.

I remember with mine getting the jacking points rebuilt as they'd rusted and the timing chain done in 2002 (ish) that bill was £1050. I dread to think what that would cost now.
I wonder what condition the scuttle panel is in and the metal work below that.
If I was to buy it (and I'm not that daft) I'd strip it, get it dipped to remove all rust and bodges. Then start rebuilding.
If you wanted an M3 that you knew was mint a full on rebuild could be done but you'd spend a long time sourcing parts with the niggle in the back of your mind you may never finish it 100%, any future resale value if dashed...

Tell me it actually needed doing and you didn't just take the scare mongering advise of a certain independent specialist.

[Rob747]

E30M3SE said:

Tell me it actually needed doing and you didn't just take the scare mongering advise of a certain independent specialist.

Interestingly the only components which showed any major wear when I rebuilt my s14 were the valve guides and the timing chain and tensioners.

My engine had done 120k at that point and had been serviced annually or every 6000 miles.

I appreciate that plenty of customers may have been convinced to refresh the timing system, but at the same time I think there is a requirement to do it at some point given my findings.

[528Sport]

Rob747 said:

E30M3SE said:

Tell me it actually needed doing and you didn't just take the scare mongering advise of a certain independent specialist.

Interestingly the only components which showed any major wear when I rebuilt my s14 were the valve guides and the timing chain and tensioners.

My engine had done 120k at that point and had been serviced annually or every 6000 miles.

I appreciate that plenty of customers may have been convinced to refresh the timing system, but at the same time I think there is a requirement to do it at some point given my findings.

Rob747 & E30M3SE,

The chain on my car rattled when started from cold for a good 5 minutes before settling down.
I had the tensioner changed (S14 type). Still rattled. It was then changed again by BMW in case the new part was faulty. Still rattled.
I refused to do the E36 tensioner "upgrade" as its not an upgrade merely hiding worn components by extending further thus taking up more slack.

I took it to an independent in Hexham Northumberland who I trusted. He started then started the engine and turned it off saying it was the worst engine he'd ever heard. He did say they'd never known a chain snap or jump under normal use and it was upto me if i'd risk it.

I opted for a replacement. The chain was fairly worn as were the guides.
They even rang me during the job asking if I wanted the sprockets chaining as they looked mint. I opted for the lot to be done.

When I picked it up the engine pulled differently, not faster just better. Seemed to rev much nicer.

I ran the car on the correct oil 15/40 (I think or whatever was required in the handbook) mineral oil changed every 5K. It never rattled again, sounded very smooth and other M3 owners who drove the car commented on how well the engine was.

According to the service history and the mileage readout my car had only done 76K when I had the chain done...

Edited by 528Sport on Tuesday 3rd May 10:48

[Pagoda1966]

Don't ask me why but at £12.5k I'd have this, probably leave the engine as it is and set myself a budget of £10k. It's never going to be a concours contender but a paint job and de-chavving this car would make an appreciable difference and there's always going to be a market for low twenties cars.....

[Pagoda1966]

Don't ask me why but at £12.5k I'd have this, probably leave the engine as it is and set myself a budget of £10k. It's never going to be a concours contender but a paint job and de-chavving this car would make an appreciable difference and there's always going to be a market for low twenties cars.....