E30 M3 prices

[CaymANTH]

e21Mark said:

Having seen your Evo 1 I would be inclined to hang on to it. Having one that's worth £45k+ and keeping it is a whole lot easier than buying one at that price, if that makes sense? Give me a shout when you come down and I'll try and pop over to say hello and see what you think? I'm writing a piece for one of the magazines and it would be good to include your car if you're up for it?

Will do Mark, have the parts for yours arrived yet....?

[e21Mark]

CaymANTH said:

e21Mark said:

Having seen your Evo 1 I would be inclined to hang on to it. Having one that's worth £45k+ and keeping it is a whole lot easier than buying one at that price, if that makes sense? Give me a shout when you come down and I'll try and pop over to say hello and see what you think? I'm writing a piece for one of the magazines and it would be good to include your car if you're up for it?

Will do Mark, have the parts for yours arrived yet....?

Most have I think? Just ARP studs and bolts were missing.

[Paracetamol]

Paracetamol said:

Saw this very tidy and original example for sale in Germany yesterday for 90k euro. Was 80k kms ish and the interior was in great shape too.


Vehicle information
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VIN: WBSAK05090AE40862
Type code: 1005
Model: ?otorsport (EUR)
E-F-R series: E30
Series: 3
Type: LIM
Steering: LL
Doors: 2
Engine: S14
Displacement: 2.30
Power: 158 (215 hp)
Drive: HECK
Transmission: MECH
Paint code: 250 - MACAOBLAU METALLIC
Upholstery code: 1989-07-18
Prod.date: AE40862 1005 250 0344 3' E30
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S301 Alarm system
S354 Green windscreen, green shade band
S401 Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric
S410 Window lifts, electric, front
S415 Sun-blind, rear
S423 Floor mats, velours
S428 Warning triangle and first aid kit
S498 Headrests mechanically adjustable, rear
S510 Headlight vertical aim control
S551 On-board computer II with remote control
S663 Radio BMW Professional (C44)
S681 Roof antenna
S690 Cassette holder
S795 M3 SONDERMODELL `89

Thats pretty bizzare. I guess its either a colour change or a typo either by the seller or BMW? The paint looked highly original to me. The light in the Display area is unforgiving and this car had no paint imperfections and had that old world pre water based painted look that we all so miss...Anyway- I not a buyer for a 90k euro M3. I would much rather spend a little more and buy a Ferrari 458 (yes they are now this close in price!)

Edited by Paracetamol on Wednesday 21st December 12:43

[89pgy]

that's going to be a Cecotto

[sim16v]

89pgy said:

that's going to be a Cecotto

The car is advertised as a Cecotto.

The point being made is that the car advertised is Nogaro Silver, but the VIN says it left the factory Macaoblau Metallic.

[japseye007]

Had a bang at the Nurburgring perhaps.

[Paracetamol]

japseye007 said:

Had a bang at the Nurburgring perhaps.

You think it did or it definately did?

[sim16v]

Internet speculation.

[Paracetamol]

Looked at the Movendi website just now. Says this is 1 of 2 cars built in this colour. Perhaps it wasn't on the system?

[89pgy]

the 1 of 2 is rubbish. I have a nogaro silver cecotto and ok it is a rear colour chassis numbers AE40560 to AE40565 are Cecottos and BMW GB's Ravaglia is AE40678, so there a another batch in nogaro just haven't got around to checking all the numbers.

[89pgy]

ok not of a lot of interest but
cecotto and revaglia numbers are
macau blue 300
misano red 127
nogaro silver 78

[Rob747]

89pgy said:

ok not of a lot of interest but
cecotto and revaglia numbers are
macau blue 300
misano red 127
nogaro silver 78

Hey Kirby,

Do you know what the colour split was for the Evo 2 cars?

[89pgy]

Rob747,
no I have not worked the Evo 1 models out. give me till the new year and I will.

[89pgy]

evo sport splits on s14 power

red 203
black 395
sterling silver 1
alpine white 1

I have not checked these as it takes days on the vin decoder, so I am only relaying the post on s14 power.

[Rob747]

89pgy said:

Rob747,
no I have not worked the Evo 1 models out. give me till the new year and I will.

Thanks!

[sim16v]

89pgy said:

evo sport splits on s14 power

red 203
black 395
sterling silver 1
alpine white 1

I have not checked these as it takes days on the vin decoder, so I am only relaying the post on s14 power.

Wow, have you basically gone through all of the chassis numbers to work the Cecotto/Ravaglia cars out?

Hats off to you and a virtual beer!


I've put my car details in to the vin decoders and found out something interesting to me.

My Euro import car is fairly normal with some options and the 158KW-215ps engine, but my UK ordered/delivered car is loaded with options.

Also, it came off the production line approximately 250 cars after the EVOIIs, but it is listed as having the 162KW-220ps engine

[pvogue]

89pgy said:

evo sport splits on s14 power

red 203
black 395
sterling silver 1
alpine white 1

I have not checked these as it takes days on the vin decoder, so I am only relaying the post on s14 power.

Nice, you need to make some sort of Google spreadsheet

[89pgy]

Sim16v, yes sad I looked up every chassis number,
I have found that unless you get the full printed version of the vin recorder the on line one can miss options that were on the orginal order sheet.
I am not that computer savvy to do a spread sheet but have lots of pages of a4 now.

[M5 London]

So I was offered this E30 M3 :

Reason(s) for failure

Nearside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.2.6)
Power steering pipe(s) or hose(s) leaking from a joint (2.3.3b)
Nearside Rear Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Nearside Rear Sub-frame rubber bush deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
Offside Rear Sub-frame rubber bush deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)

Advisory notice item(s)

Nearside Front Anti-roll bar ball joint dust cover deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front Brake hose slightly deteriorated (3.6.B.4d)
Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 10mm circle within zone 'A' (8.3.1a)
both rear brake discs surface corrosion
both rear wheel arches slight corrosion
both rear inner lower arches corroded but not near any load bearing points
rear fuel pipe slight corrosion



Pretty clean then hey ?

[e21Mark]

M5 London said:

So I was offered this E30 M3 :

Reason(s) for failure

Nearside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Offside Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.2.6)
Power steering pipe(s) or hose(s) leaking from a joint (2.3.3b)
Nearside Rear Brake pipe excessively corroded (3.6.B.2c)
Nearside Rear Sub-frame rubber bush deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
Offside Rear Sub-frame rubber bush deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)

Advisory notice item(s)

Nearside Front Anti-roll bar ball joint dust cover deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front Brake hose slightly deteriorated (3.6.B.4d)
Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 10mm circle within zone 'A' (8.3.1a)
both rear brake discs surface corrosion
both rear wheel arches slight corrosion
both rear inner lower arches corroded but not near any load bearing points
rear fuel pipe slight corrosion



Pretty clean then hey ?

Guess it depends on the price you were offered it for? Bottom line is these cars are a quarter of a century old at least, so it's not surprising that some will have rust issues. Mine looked pretty solid when I bought it but still needs a fair chunk spent on letting in new metal and paint. Fortunately values mean it's money well spent.