E30 M3 prices

[Welshbeef]

Matt_N said:

I've definitely seen 328i Sports go up from when I was looking for one a few years ago.

I've currently got an E46 330i but am thinking of changing for an E36 M3 as my mileage has dropped right off and I really fancy giving one a go and with the chance of it increasing in value.

I'd wager that's more of the case that the scrapers are dropping away than it appearing prices are rising.

[jonah35]

Mermaid said:

jonah35 said:

E30 is rare and gone up, e36 is rare and going up, e46 is common and depreciating/staying steady

Are all E36's going up, or are there a couple of special models to look out for.

E36 m3 coupe, manual box but the two you really want is the dark green m3 Gt (homologation car) and 1 of 50 or the GTII (imola red and 1 of 50). These are rare and don't come up for sale.

[mboon]

All E36s are rising. The M3 is going well but the GT models as mentioned above are rising quickly. With the E30 becoming out of reach to alot seem to be picking up the E36. I love them, owned three and have a GTII sat in the garage now. I can confirm the price of my car has nearly doubled from when I purchased it if not more.

[Rob747]

£43.5k for an unrestored Evo 2

Non Evo cars hovering around £20k

http://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/s...

Interestingly many cars failed to meet valuations, e30s slightly outperformed, maybe the classic market is cooling sensibly?

Edited by Rob747 on Sunday 22 February 16:52

[Schermerhorn]

Rob747 said:

£43.5k for an unrestored Evo 2

Non Evo cars hovering around £20k

http://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/s...

Interestingly many cars failed to meet valuations, e30s slightly outperformed, maybe the classic market is cooling sensibly?

Edited by Rob747 on Sunday 22 February 16:52

The speculators have squeezed what they can out of the E30 M3 market in my opinion. I wonder what is next, Porsche 968, Audi Quattro, Golk MK2 GTi, Nissan 300 ZX?

[Rob747]

Schermerhorn said:

The speculators have squeezed what they can out of the E30 M3 market in my opinion. I wonder what is next, Porsche 968, Audi Quattro, Golk MK2 GTi, Nissan 300 ZX?

You might be right, still I thought 993rs were overpriced at £100k and now auto vero has one for sale at £255k.

As long as interest rates are low prices will keep rising, maybe just at a slower rate for the e30

[e21Mark]

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

[e21Mark]

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

[warsteiner///M3]

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

[E30M3SE]

warsteiner///M3 said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

Lost it's 'split rims & front fog lights' too.

[Mr_B]

Mr_B said:

Couple of M3s going to auction next week.

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1989-bmw-e30-m3

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1991-bmw-e30-m3...

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1988-bmw-m3-evo...

Auction results in. First car unsold, second sold for £23K and the Evo2 made £50K !

[e21Mark]

E30M3SE said:

warsteiner///M3 said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

Lost it's 'split rims & front fog lights' too.

Seller reckons it's now sold for asking price and awaiting collection. I asked about the mileage etc and that was their response.

[e21Mark]

e21Mark said:

E30M3SE said:

warsteiner///M3 said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

Lost it's 'split rims & front fog lights' too.

Seller reckons it's now sold for asking price and awaiting collection. I asked about the mileage etc and that was their response.

Back up for sale again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-J-BMW-E30-M3-2-3-LH...

[billywhizzzzzz]

Mermaid said:

jonah35 said:

E30 is rare and gone up, e36 is rare and going up, e46 is common and depreciating/staying steady

Are all E36's going up, or are there a couple of special models to look out for.

Sorry, E36s aren't rare like E30s and certainly aren't a cult homologation special with extraordinary touring car history either. Huge price rise now or in the future? I don't think so.

[evojam]

billywhizzzzzz said:

Sorry, E36s aren't rare like E30s and certainly aren't a cult homologation special with extraordinary touring car history either. Huge price rise now or in the future? I don't think so.

Does the E36 having numerous race wins inc the 24hrs Spa,24hrs Nurburgring as well as the BTCC count?I'm old enough too remember when the E30 M3 was'nt that sort after,prices were pretty low and you could pick nice ones up for well under 10k,then all of a sudden prices started to climb for a number of reasons.Now I'm not saying the E36 will attain those values but to state the E36 won't increase in value is being a little short sighted..

[billywhizzzzzz]

evojam said:

billywhizzzzzz said:

Sorry, E36s aren't rare like E30s and certainly aren't a cult homologation special with extraordinary touring car history either. Huge price rise now or in the future? I don't think so.

Does the E36 having numerous race wins inc the 24hrs Spa,24hrs Nurburgring as well as the BTCC count?I'm old enough too remember when the E30 M3 was'nt that sort after,prices were pretty low and you could pick nice ones up for well under 10k,then all of a sudden prices started to climb for a number of reasons.Now I'm not saying the E36 will attain those values but to state the E36 won't increase in value is being a little short sighted..

Sorry, no it doesn't count.

The thing is - there's nothing really comparable to the E30 M3 and they're rare and were a limited production run. The E36 was never very special or sought after, was always in plentiful supply, and is totally eclipsed by the E46 which is more accomplished and better looking and critically, for which prices are also very low, in abundant supply and will always limit E36 Values. Sure, E36 may rise very slightly as good ones become rarer, but ultimately are pretty much guaranteed never to do what the E30 has done.

Every single body panel on the M3 was different (bar the bonnet) and pretty much every component. It really is truly special. The E36 just isn't - it was always a bit mainstream and a bit ordinary, however accomplished. Being accomplished doesn't mean prices will rise much.

Look too at E34/39s - they haven't risen much yet - they just aren't rare or special enough. The E28, which is rarer, has climbed much more - but M5s are a different proposition from M3s in any case.

So, yes, E36 prices will rise a little as the dogs go, but will the prices go stratospheric? Absolutely not.

[Cheib]

billywhizzzzzz said:

Sorry, no it doesn't count.

The thing is - there's nothing really comparable to the E30 M3 and they're rare and were a limited production run. The E36 was never very special or sought after, was always in plentiful supply, and is totally eclipsed by the E46 which is more accomplished and better looking and critically, for which prices are also very low, in abundant supply and will always limit E36 Values. Sure, E36 may rise very slightly as good ones become rarer, but ultimately are pretty much guaranteed never to do what the E30 has done.

Every single body panel on the M3 was different (bar the bonnet) and pretty much every component. It really is truly special. The E36 just isn't - it was always a bit mainstream and a bit ordinary, however accomplished. Being accomplished doesn't mean prices will rise much.

Look too at E34/39s - they haven't risen much yet - they just aren't rare or special enough. The E28, which is rarer, has climbed much more - but M5s are a different proposition from M3s in any case.

So, yes, E36 prices will rise a little as the dogs go, but will the prices go stratospheric? Absolutely not.

As someone who owned an E36 and E46 from new I totally agree with this.....E46 was a total game changer compared to the E36.

Also cosmetically the E36 is the least special of all the M3's.....I had the bumpers stolen off mine because they fit on a 318i....every other M3 has a wider track/wheel arches compared to the standard car.

[Welshbeef]

evojam said:

Does the E36 having numerous race wins inc the 24hrs Spa,24hrs Nurburgring as well as the BTCC count?I'm old enough too remember when the E30 M3 was'nt that sort after,prices were pretty low and you could pick nice ones up for well under 10k,then all of a sudden prices started to climb for a number of reasons.Now I'm not saying the E36 will attain those values but to state the E36 won't increase in value is being a little short sighted..

How many E30 v E36 M3's produced?

One was a race Homogolation the other a road car. This is why its worth more/a lot more + the crazy classic car bubble were in at the minute.

[Mermaid]

Welshbeef said:

How many E30 v E36 M3's produced?

One was a race Homogolation the other a road car. This is why its worth more/a lot more + the crazy classic car bubble were in at the minute.

5 times as many E36 M3's

[Welshbeef]

Mermaid said:

Welshbeef said:

How many E30 v E36 M3's produced?

One was a race Homogolation the other a road car. This is why its worth more/a lot more + the crazy classic car bubble were in at the minute.

5 times as many E36 M3's

So massively more volume, no race history, not homologised, road car only, following the great E30 M3.

Probably very valid reasons why it will be a very long time before they go up in value - buy one because you want one or buy an E46 M3 because you want one and enjoy it for what it is. IF it ever goes up in value which it might never do that's a nice problem to have. Assume it loses money like all cars first