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Cheib said:
Mr_B said:
M3 'barn find' on eBay, or dusty M3 as might be more befitting. So little info yet £15k bids.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261642063013?_trksid=p20...
Sceptical how a barn find M3 on German plates is being sold in the UK. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261642063013?_trksid=p20...
These have gone up ridiculously.
I bought mine in 2004 for £4000 from its first UK owner (only 1 German owner aswell, 195HP). I then spent 20K on it getting it perfect (it was mint anyhow, I just like restoring things) and sold it to a group from Holland for £16000 in 2011. I could not buy it back now for £20k or so, maybe more. It was on 80K when I sold it.
My brother bought a late 1991 H plate 215HP version with the craziest pink and black interior I've ever seen for £6500 after I got the price down. We then sold it to Wayne Howlett for £9.5K I think. Same car now would be £25K.
I then found him a UK black Sport EVO for £16K hiding in an old guys garage. We done some work (respray, suspension etc) and sold it within minutes to a car collector for £29500. This must be 5 years ago. The same car now would be £60k, maybe more considering it was one of the official 50 UK cars.
Crazy prices! I liked the look/history of the car more than the drive. I couldn't afford one now and to be honest, having been messing with E30's for year I wouldn't want one either.
Quite happy now with my E36 328i Sport touring and my E91 335i M Sport touring as a pair!
I bought mine in 2004 for £4000 from its first UK owner (only 1 German owner aswell, 195HP). I then spent 20K on it getting it perfect (it was mint anyhow, I just like restoring things) and sold it to a group from Holland for £16000 in 2011. I could not buy it back now for £20k or so, maybe more. It was on 80K when I sold it.
My brother bought a late 1991 H plate 215HP version with the craziest pink and black interior I've ever seen for £6500 after I got the price down. We then sold it to Wayne Howlett for £9.5K I think. Same car now would be £25K.
I then found him a UK black Sport EVO for £16K hiding in an old guys garage. We done some work (respray, suspension etc) and sold it within minutes to a car collector for £29500. This must be 5 years ago. The same car now would be £60k, maybe more considering it was one of the official 50 UK cars.
Crazy prices! I liked the look/history of the car more than the drive. I couldn't afford one now and to be honest, having been messing with E30's for year I wouldn't want one either.
Quite happy now with my E36 328i Sport touring and my E91 335i M Sport touring as a pair!
E30M3SE said:
That is a lovely looking car and I appreciate that things have gone up...but...one of the great things about an E30 M3 is blatting about A and B roads with a grin from ear to ear....Im not sure I could do that in that car having dropped circa 100K on it. Such a shame really but a sign of the times I guess, I imagine this car will now just go from collection to collection. In many ways Im actually glad I have a well used old 1987 car for exactly this reason.Have you still got yours and has your usage of the car changed since the increase in perceived value? Tell me to mind my own business by all means but coming from a 993 Turbo owner (bought ten years ago loooong before the recent upsurge) its sometimes hard to ignore that perceived value and how you I perhaps should be using it....
I consider myself to be really fortunate to have an E30 M3 and the value thing plays no real part. I'd feel the same were it £2k instead of 20+. It gets driven most days and used for what it was built. I don't see the point in owning any car and just squirrelling it away in the garage?! The joy in these things is in the driving experience, not just the aesthetic. In my opinion anyway. I'm going to the shops in mine shortly and will be taking the coast road for the sheer hell of it.
e21Mark said:
I consider myself to be really fortunate to have an E30 M3 and the value thing plays no real part. I'd feel the same were it £2k instead of 20+. It gets driven most days and used for what it was built. I don't see the point in owning any car and just squirrelling it away in the garage?! The joy in these things is in the driving experience, not just the aesthetic. In my opinion anyway. I'm going to the shops in mine shortly and will be taking the coast road for the sheer hell of it.
I agree, hence statement about my old 1987 car....but....would it make you stop and think just a tad if it was a 100K SE?mark.c said:
e21Mark said:
I consider myself to be really fortunate to have an E30 M3 and the value thing plays no real part. I'd feel the same were it £2k instead of 20+. It gets driven most days and used for what it was built. I don't see the point in owning any car and just squirrelling it away in the garage?! The joy in these things is in the driving experience, not just the aesthetic. In my opinion anyway. I'm going to the shops in mine shortly and will be taking the coast road for the sheer hell of it.
I agree, hence statement about my old 1987 car....but....would it make you stop and think just a tad if it was a 100K SE?I'm lucky enough to own an SE, since 2004. I bought it for £17k ran it for two years before I discovered some rust issues. Did a full bare metal restoration, with a few mods which I expect most purists will frown upon and all it is stands me for about £45-50k.
I use it! I use it as intended, in fact I'm booked in for a track day at Oulton Park on Fri 14th.
But, values as they are, I am finding it very difficult to justify keeping it. Worst case, it is worth 2x my salary, best case 3x my salary. That is my mortgage paid off!
Decisions, decisions...
I use it! I use it as intended, in fact I'm booked in for a track day at Oulton Park on Fri 14th.
But, values as they are, I am finding it very difficult to justify keeping it. Worst case, it is worth 2x my salary, best case 3x my salary. That is my mortgage paid off!
Decisions, decisions...
stevesingo said:
I'm lucky enough to own an SE, since 2004. I bought it for £17k ran it for two years before I discovered some rust issues. Did a full bare metal restoration, with a few mods which I expect most purists will frown upon and all it is stands me for about £45-50k.
I use it! I use it as intended, in fact I'm booked in for a track day at Oulton Park on Fri 14th.
But, values as they are, I am finding it very difficult to justify keeping it. Worst case, it is worth 2x my salary, best case 3x my salary. That is my mortgage paid off!
Decisions, decisions...
I remember your car Steve and followed your rebuild on S14power all those years ago, And as you say it may not suit the purists but I like what you have done to it. You raise a very good point about the real impact to our lives that the sale of these cars could bring, mortgage etc, and have answered the question I asked a few posts up.I use it! I use it as intended, in fact I'm booked in for a track day at Oulton Park on Fri 14th.
But, values as they are, I am finding it very difficult to justify keeping it. Worst case, it is worth 2x my salary, best case 3x my salary. That is my mortgage paid off!
Decisions, decisions...
Decisions decisions indeed, the sale of my 993 tt would have a big impact and I'll admit it has changed the way I use it, it won't see track again and I have become more precious about it, I even had it painted which sometimes I wish I hadn't !
The conclusion I have come to at present is that I will continue to use it as intended, minus the track, and it will only be sold if I absolutely need to.
I think you might regret selling yours, it must feel like a member of the family by now
This looks like a nice car, but £35k for a car running an s54?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
e21Mark said:
This looks like a nice car, but £35k for a car running an s54?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
He is certainly confident about the quality of the car I'll give him that http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
If that's a spot of surface rust on the slam panel by the bonnet hinge do you think he will let me have it for free ??
mark.c said:
e21Mark said:
This looks like a nice car, but £35k for a car running an s54?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
He is certainly confident about the quality of the car I'll give him that http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-BMW-M3-E30-EVO-2-DO...
If that's a spot of surface rust on the slam panel by the bonnet hinge do you think he will let me have it for free ??
Some clown has just paid £54k for a Europameister in the USA.
That is basically a standard car with a fancy leather interior. Granted it had 20k miles from new, but for a non Evo car it's breaking new ground wrt pricing.
At these levels using these cars as intended is going to become a lot less common.
How many 2.7 RS' do you see being punted round on track nowadays?
That is basically a standard car with a fancy leather interior. Granted it had 20k miles from new, but for a non Evo car it's breaking new ground wrt pricing.
At these levels using these cars as intended is going to become a lot less common.
How many 2.7 RS' do you see being punted round on track nowadays?
Rob747 said:
Some clown has just paid £54k for a Europameister in the USA.
That is basically a standard car with a fancy leather interior. Granted it had 20k miles from new, but for a non Evo car it's breaking new ground wrt pricing.
Ouch! That is basically a standard car with a fancy leather interior. Granted it had 20k miles from new, but for a non Evo car it's breaking new ground wrt pricing.
I know used parts have gone up a lot recently too.
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