E30 M3 prices

[Bayerische]

E30M3SE said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E30-M3-1987/26236660...

Looks like this one is back on ebay. Perhaps the first sale fell through.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E30-M3-1987-/2623957...

[Mr_B]

Bayerische]30M3SE said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-BMW-M3-EVOLUTION-RE...



Quite possibly, one of the worst adverts for a car I have ever seen. £20,000 for that thing is madness. I don't think that is a Sport Evo chassis number.

Edited by Bayerische on Monday 25th April 22:05

I think he's just stuck the 'Evo' bit as a headline grab/search hit thing as there looks nothing Evo about it, especially with advertising it as a 2.3L.
Car looks like it needs a lot of work and parts.

[e21Mark]

Mr_B said:

I think he's just stuck the 'Evo' bit as a headline grab/search hit thing as there looks nothing Evo about it, especially with advertising it as a 2.3L.
Car looks like it needs a lot of work and parts.

Seems pretty keen to portray as an Evo to me.



Can't see it making £20k though. Engine is unknown quantity & incorrect, plus am willing to bet there's some serious corrosion needing attention.

ETA - MOT history shows serious corrosion to chassis rails and subframe mounting points, amongst other rust. Going to be a brave man to take that restoration on.

Edited by e21Mark on Tuesday 26th April 07:22

[528Sport]

e21Mark said:

Mr_B said:

I think he's just stuck the 'Evo' bit as a headline grab/search hit thing as there looks nothing Evo about it, especially with advertising it as a 2.3L.
Car looks like it needs a lot of work and parts.

Seems pretty keen to portray as an Evo to me.



Can't see it making £20k though. Engine is unknown quantity & incorrect, plus am willing to bet there's some serious corrosion needing attention.

ETA - MOT history shows serious corrosion to chassis rails and subframe mounting points, amongst other rust. Going to be a brave man to take that restoration on.

Edited by e21Mark on Tuesday 26th April 07:22

Look at the carpets who fitted them?

The only way to make that nice again is strip to a bare shell. dip it, see what's left and either repair or scrap.
Sad end to a car. I'd say its worth £5K tops

[Mr_B]

528Sport said:

e21Mark said:

Mr_B said:

I think he's just stuck the 'Evo' bit as a headline grab/search hit thing as there looks nothing Evo about it, especially with advertising it as a 2.3L.
Car looks like it needs a lot of work and parts.

Seems pretty keen to portray as an Evo to me.



Can't see it making £20k though. Engine is unknown quantity & incorrect, plus am willing to bet there's some serious corrosion needing attention.

ETA - MOT history shows serious corrosion to chassis rails and subframe mounting points, amongst other rust. Going to be a brave man to take that restoration on.

Edited by e21Mark on Tuesday 26th April 07:22

Look at the carpets who fitted them?

The only way to make that nice again is strip to a bare shell. dip it, see what's left and either repair or scrap.
Sad end to a car. I'd say its worth £5K tops

Someone on here was claiming just the sill trims are £3K and the C pillar is £4K as second hand parts....

£30K buys something nice. This guy is dreaming, but I think there's plenty of people that will pay a fair chunk above £5K for it.

[528Sport]

Mr_B said:

528Sport said:

e21Mark said:

Mr_B said:

I think he's just stuck the 'Evo' bit as a headline grab/search hit thing as there looks nothing Evo about it, especially with advertising it as a 2.3L.
Car looks like it needs a lot of work and parts.

Seems pretty keen to portray as an Evo to me.



Can't see it making £20k though. Engine is unknown quantity & incorrect, plus am willing to bet there's some serious corrosion needing attention.

ETA - MOT history shows serious corrosion to chassis rails and subframe mounting points, amongst other rust. Going to be a brave man to take that restoration on.

Edited by e21Mark on Tuesday 26th April 07:22

Look at the carpets who fitted them?

The only way to make that nice again is strip to a bare shell. dip it, see what's left and either repair or scrap.
Sad end to a car. I'd say its worth £5K tops

Someone on here was claiming just the sill trims are £3K and the C pillar is £4K as second hand parts....

£30K buys something nice. This guy is dreaming, but I think there's plenty of people that will pay a fair chunk above £5K for it.

I guess your right. They'll then spend a fortune putting that shed right assuming its not too far gone..

Having owned an E30M3 and several people who also owned them I know what a pain on the wallet they can be.
Rust is one of the biggest issues on E30's
I often read this thread just to see the mad money they exchange hands for..

[Rob747]

The only bits on that car that have value are the bumpers and sill trims. Maybe the rear glass.

The rest of it could be crushed. Who needs a rear window C pillar section when they don't rust?!

Wrong engine and box, ste interior.... £20k is dreamland.

[Mr_B]

Rob747 said:

The only bits on that car that have value are the bumpers and sill trims. Maybe the rear glass.

The rest of it could be crushed. Who needs a rear window C pillar section when they don't rust?!

Wrong engine and box, ste interior.... £20k is dreamland.

I suspect there's more than a few people who'll pay for the VIN and logbook, perhaps not far off the £5K asking price too.
There's a load of parts on the car worth good money. The complete suspension for starters is in demand, doors, loads of small NLA trim bits , the rear seat, boot lid, wheels etc etc. The C pillar is liked by those building replicas or race cars and those reshelling a crashed car into a 316 2 door shell. Even the rusty bare ( non sunroof ) shell with a logbook is decent money. Front bumpers ( non Evo ) are only around £350 dealer new price and not worth that much second hand as you can easily pay a bodyshop a stack of cash per hour repairing and sanding one in prep. The rears are technically worth more because I think they are £700+ new, but everyone thinks the fronts are the same and pay silly money.

Never £20K. Shame he never kept the original engine as he'd probably have a lot more interest in someone taking it on as a full restoration job, rather than what I suspect is a load of people hurriedly emailing him offers for the car to be parted.

[e21Mark]

There's definitely a few quid in parting it out but I do kind of hope it gets saved. It'd need to be bought at a more sensible price and done by a DIY restorer though.

[Bayerische]

It's a standard M3.....very misleading claiming it's an Evo.


AK05: European-spec with cat (215 hp), 04/1989 through 12/1990


It looks like it started life a late 215bhp car.

Not sure I would even give him £5k for it.

It really pisses me off when idiots think their abused crap is worth a fortune, just because a mint cared for example is worth £40K.

He needs to seriously realign his expectations.

Edited by Bayerische on Tuesday 26th April 20:08

[Pagoda1966]

There have been some cack cars for sale in the last 6 months - I wish they'd all get scrapped or restored..... really sad to see such used & abused rubbish.

[Pagoda1966]

There have been some cack cars for sale in the last 6 months - I wish they'd all get scrapped or restored..... really sad to see such used & abused rubbish.

[pvogue]

There is a guy selling his Z M Coupe here and says he has 2 E30 M3s aswell.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301930779403

[Josco010]

It's sad that someone can come here and claim someone's car is worth just 5k, jealousy is a terrible thing. My old 2006 push bicycle is worth more than 8k let alone a pure homologation special. Even if the engine is not genuine to the car or needs work how in the hell can it be worth just 5k?? The boot spoiler alone is worth £1.500 on its own and the front lip another £250- £300 minus the bumper. Some will go to any lengths to crucify a car they do not know anything about, just cause they can't afford it. Sad... Whatever the reason the car is parked up who knows and just as (thank for for free speech on the Internet ) any one can say what they want fair enough, if a seller chooses to sell their car for crazy sum more power to them if someone feels it's worth the asking price ridiculous or not. Porsche dealers/ owners are doing it, same as Ferrari owners and dealers, yet the e30 has real pedigree that cars like 964's or 993's don't have unless the RS/GT3rs models yet no one complains. This car is not mine nor do I know the owner, but the comment of some reeks of our jealousy or spite for someone else's luck in having something special. If a constructive criticism or comment is not possible best to stay quiet.

[Bayerische]

I think it is even sadder for someone to intentionally mislead a purchaser claiming that a car is an Evo when it clearly is not.

[e21Mark]

This is also a thread specifically about current E30 M3 prices so by definition people are going to give their opinions on value and that's all they are, opinions! There may well be someone out there who's happy to pay £20k?

As an aside, I emailed the seller for some more information and he is adamant that his car is a Sport Evo and said the seats prove this. He also said he will not take less than £20k. I'll let you make of this what you will.

[benny.c]

^^^ This.

I doubt there's much jealousy on this thread as most people commenting already own M3s and track prices (I know I do). Anyhoo, the seller of the red eBay car has changed his description to say that it's not a Sport Evo. With the current silly prices who knows what it's worth? I'd guess £10-£15K.

When I purchsed mine a few years back I was offered one for £6K - good ones were starting to go for about £12-15K at the time. It was being used by a garage to pick up parts and for the staff to run around in. It was a but ropey but I wish I'd purchsed it along with mine and just shoved it in a garage for a few years. Ho hum.

Edited by benny.c on Friday 29th April 07:52

[e21Mark]

I'm also told the rear spoiler and splitter are fibreglass copies, so values are nominal.

[Josco010]

Hmmnnn, interesting. Could it be a situation where he got facts wrong? Perhaps wrongly advised. As an example I have an evolution car, but at time of purchase was unaware of car's actual model, vendor was equally unaware as it came with all normal body bits, it was after many years when I took to bexhley Heath motorsports they called me to ask if I knew my car was an evo model, this was sported by the chassis number. So who knows if same thing here but only on the other way round.... Just a line of thinking

[stevesingo]

I look at it like this. An original (un-restored) good condition late model (215PS) E30 M3 with decent history and approx 75k mile currently sell at £30-35k.

Subtract the cost of restoring this car properly, source an engine (and possibly G.Box and Diff as these are commonly changed with an engine swap) and rebuild it. Source a correct interior and panels. etc etc.

Then subtract the loss of value to the collector by this car not having the original engine number nor history.

What you have left is what it is worth. In me experience of restoring an E30 M3 the value you would be left with is about nothing.

This car is of great risk of being bodged together and someone asking £30k for it. Hopefully no one will fall for that as the VIN is posted on the ebay ad.