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Paracetamol said:
Bayerische said:
The M3 badge on the boot is not in the correct place.
How can an entire car be condemed due to a misplaced badge!Perhaps it was removed to do a paint detail?
I won't condemn you for your bad spelling either.
Edited by Bayerische on Saturday 29th October 17:47
Bayerische said:
I most certainly did NOT condemn the car. I simply said that the badge was in the wrong place, which could have a whole host of reasons behind it. However, If I was going to spend £75,000 on it, I would want to know the reason why the badge has been off such a low mileage car. It does look like a fantastic car. Maybe you should take your aggressive style to another forum.
I won't condemn you for your bad spelling either.
Nope..sorry...staying put...this thread needs a pedant patrolI won't condemn you for your bad spelling either.
Edited by Bayerische on Saturday 29th October 17:47
Paracetamol said:
Bayerische said:
I most certainly did NOT condemn the car. I simply said that the badge was in the wrong place, which could have a whole host of reasons behind it. However, If I was going to spend £75,000 on it, I would want to know the reason why the badge has been off such a low mileage car. It does look like a fantastic car. Maybe you should take your aggressive style to another forum.
I won't condemn you for your bad spelling either.
Nope..sorry...staying put...this thread needs a pedant patrolI won't condemn you for your bad spelling either.
Edited by Bayerische on Saturday 29th October 17:47
What a mess. Brave man that takes that on to rebuild. Looks like its already been through a round of bodges year ago and sat for the last 5 years or more - even the ignition key has nearly rusted away !
I got a feeling when the owner wants to accept a more realistic offer, it may yet still be broken for the shell/title. Speaking of which, I'd take the rad fan and lower half of the airbox for my own project money pit M3.
I got a feeling when the owner wants to accept a more realistic offer, it may yet still be broken for the shell/title. Speaking of which, I'd take the rad fan and lower half of the airbox for my own project money pit M3.
sim16v said:
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL And to think I sold my Sport Evo for 13 grand. And then it was written off at the Ring a few weeks later. RIP.
Reality needs to take hold here.
johnny senna said:
sim16v said:
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL And to think I sold my Sport Evo for 13 grand. And then it was written off at the Ring a few weeks later. RIP.
Reality needs to take hold here.
e21Mark said:
A half decent 215 brake car is £35k+ now. (assuming you can find one for sale) You'd need to strip and media blast this for a proper rebuild anyway, so its current state isn't a huge deal anyway and there are a few project cars that have made £20k plus recently, so the seller isn't a million miles away in my opinion.
The whole thing is comedy gold.I have owned both a 2.3L car and a Sport Evo and driven the crap out of them both. I understand the historical importance of E30 M3s as well as most people. These cars are good (and pretty) but not worth what people are asking for them IMHO.
johnny senna said:
e21Mark said:
A half decent 215 brake car is £35k+ now. (assuming you can find one for sale) You'd need to strip and media blast this for a proper rebuild anyway, so its current state isn't a huge deal anyway and there are a few project cars that have made £20k plus recently, so the seller isn't a million miles away in my opinion.
The whole thing is comedy gold.I have owned both a 2.3L car and a Sport Evo and driven the crap out of them both. I understand the historical importance of E30 M3s as well as most people. These cars are good (and pretty) but not worth what people are asking for them IMHO.
For me, cars of this era are special (and not just because of nostalgia being of a certain age) and hark back to a time when cars and their interaction with the driver was what counted. As well as the M3 there was the 3 door Sierra Cosworth, the 190 Mercedes and the Audi UR Quattro, not to mention the few years prior and the 131 Mirafiori, RS 2000 and HSR Chevette. There are plenty of others, such as the Mazda RX7 FB and they all command serious money nowadays. In one respect, it's sad that these cars are now priced out of the reach of many enthusiasts but my E30 is worth every penny to me. I have thought about selling it (not for long admittedly) but there's nothing out there I would want more. Certainly nothing that's as much fun and as iconic. Just my opinion obviously, although I see a good few owners that appear to share the sentiment.
e21Mark said:
johnny senna said:
sim16v said:
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL And to think I sold my Sport Evo for 13 grand. And then it was written off at the Ring a few weeks later. RIP.
Reality needs to take hold here.
There's still a good number of cars that really just need the underside gubbins removing and a full body check, repair and paint, but where you could just refit the interior , engine etc and have a tidy M3. This one looks like no single one component doesn't need a full refurb.
No reason why it can't be done and why it would n't make a nice car if done properly, but right now, I think 15K is more realistic. The again, if the market keeps going up and up dropping £20-30K at it might still make you money long term.
e21Mark said:
Yet the current market suggests otherwise.
For me, cars of this era are special (and not just because of nostalgia being of a certain age) and hark back to a time when cars and their interaction with the driver was what counted. As well as the M3 there was the 3 door Sierra Cosworth, the 190 Mercedes and the Audi UR Quattro, not to mention the few years prior and the 131 Mirafiori, RS 2000 and HSR Chevette. There are plenty of others, such as the Mazda RX7 FB and they all command serious money nowadays. In one respect, it's sad that these cars are now priced out of the reach of many enthusiasts but my E30 is worth every penny to me. I have thought about selling it (not for long admittedly) but there's nothing out there I would want more. Certainly nothing that's as much fun and as iconic. Just my opinion obviously, although I see a good few owners that appear to share the sentiment.
Crackers really. Objectively I mean. For me, cars of this era are special (and not just because of nostalgia being of a certain age) and hark back to a time when cars and their interaction with the driver was what counted. As well as the M3 there was the 3 door Sierra Cosworth, the 190 Mercedes and the Audi UR Quattro, not to mention the few years prior and the 131 Mirafiori, RS 2000 and HSR Chevette. There are plenty of others, such as the Mazda RX7 FB and they all command serious money nowadays. In one respect, it's sad that these cars are now priced out of the reach of many enthusiasts but my E30 is worth every penny to me. I have thought about selling it (not for long admittedly) but there's nothing out there I would want more. Certainly nothing that's as much fun and as iconic. Just my opinion obviously, although I see a good few owners that appear to share the sentiment.
My Sport Evo was good value at the 12 grand I bought it for. But for what the "market" values it at now, I'd rather have a GT3. Engineering wise, the 2 cars are simply miles apart.
They're just so different I guess? Obviously there's no comparison when it comes to performance but I like my fun at a slower outright pace nowadays. In order to get near the limit in something like a GT3 you'll be going so much quicker, so mistakes are most likely going to be that much more costly. I had a V8 M3 last year and it took a conscious effort to stick to anything like sensible speeds. 3 figures were simply effortless and although I thought it was a good car it was just too competent to be fun. I much prefer something with less power and grip. It didn't give me that sense of occasion the E30 does either. I'm not saying it was mundane but modern stuff just all looks so alike. It's just a good job we all like different things and that's why some folk will pay so much for what could be seen as a lesser car in some respects?
I'm off out in my old 318is daily shortly. Most folk in my street think it's an old banger (albeit a shiny one) and assume I'd prefer a new 118d or something. No chance.
I'm off out in my old 318is daily shortly. Most folk in my street think it's an old banger (albeit a shiny one) and assume I'd prefer a new 118d or something. No chance.
Edited by e21Mark on Saturday 5th November 10:56
johnny senna said:
e21Mark said:
Yet the current market suggests otherwise.
For me, cars of this era are special (and not just because of nostalgia being of a certain age) and hark back to a time when cars and their interaction with the driver was what counted. As well as the M3 there was the 3 door Sierra Cosworth, the 190 Mercedes and the Audi UR Quattro, not to mention the few years prior and the 131 Mirafiori, RS 2000 and HSR Chevette. There are plenty of others, such as the Mazda RX7 FB and they all command serious money nowadays. In one respect, it's sad that these cars are now priced out of the reach of many enthusiasts but my E30 is worth every penny to me. I have thought about selling it (not for long admittedly) but there's nothing out there I would want more. Certainly nothing that's as much fun and as iconic. Just my opinion obviously, although I see a good few owners that appear to share the sentiment.
Crackers really. Objectively I mean. For me, cars of this era are special (and not just because of nostalgia being of a certain age) and hark back to a time when cars and their interaction with the driver was what counted. As well as the M3 there was the 3 door Sierra Cosworth, the 190 Mercedes and the Audi UR Quattro, not to mention the few years prior and the 131 Mirafiori, RS 2000 and HSR Chevette. There are plenty of others, such as the Mazda RX7 FB and they all command serious money nowadays. In one respect, it's sad that these cars are now priced out of the reach of many enthusiasts but my E30 is worth every penny to me. I have thought about selling it (not for long admittedly) but there's nothing out there I would want more. Certainly nothing that's as much fun and as iconic. Just my opinion obviously, although I see a good few owners that appear to share the sentiment.
My Sport Evo was good value at the 12 grand I bought it for. But for what the "market" values it at now, I'd rather have a GT3. Engineering wise, the 2 cars are simply miles apart.
In terms of market value, actually being a good car doesn't always come into it, if you consider some other classic stuff that is outrageously expensive, at least an old M3 is a good drive!
American spec car at the lower end of the price scale?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kgfclassiccars/sets/...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kgfclassiccars/sets/...
sim16v said:
American spec car at the lower end of the price scale?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kgfclassiccars/sets/...
34 grand for that!! Crikey. I remember when a car like that would cost about 5 grand, and even then you wouldn't have snapped it up. Reality check, people. https://www.flickr.com/photos/kgfclassiccars/sets/...
Agreed, the prices are now crazy, but it is a sellers market.
If you want one you have to pay the price, unless you happen to be in the right place at the right time with someone who still thinks their car is worth what it was 15 years ago.
I bought my M3s over 12 years ago and I am very close to actually deciding to sell them now.
Once they are gone I could tick off a lot of different cars in the "want" list, but would I ever be able to get another M3?
Or will the bubble burst and prices drop, even short term and I could get another one?
Who knows.
If you want one you have to pay the price, unless you happen to be in the right place at the right time with someone who still thinks their car is worth what it was 15 years ago.
I bought my M3s over 12 years ago and I am very close to actually deciding to sell them now.
Once they are gone I could tick off a lot of different cars in the "want" list, but would I ever be able to get another M3?
Or will the bubble burst and prices drop, even short term and I could get another one?
Who knows.
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