F10 M5: Any Ideas?

F10 M5: Any Ideas?

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Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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jrinns said:
has anyone had this fixed?
Not that I'm aware of.

It's funny how the LCI cars are not afflicted: do BMW know what the problem is and engineer solutions into the LCI cars?

I think so.

I've driven seven LCI M5s over the last fortnight, with not one of them having that ridiculous clicking.

Does anyone know anything to the contrary??





-Z-

6,020 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
Not that I'm aware of.

It's funny how the LCI cars are not afflicted: do BMW know what the problem is and engineer solutions into the LCI cars?

I think so.

I've driven seven LCI M5s over the last fortnight, with not one of them having that ridiculous clicking.

Does anyone know anything to the contrary??
Mines an LCI Jan 2014 and is affected. Although as stated above the Calipers were apparently updated a few months after mine was built.

Jazzer

Original Poster:

1,674 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Interesting!

I'm convinced they know exactly what's wrong, but are trying to avoid an avalanche of expensive fixes.

The bottom line is we all need new braking systems.

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

198 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
Interesting!

I'm convinced they know exactly what's wrong, but are trying to avoid an avalanche of expensive fixes.

The bottom line is we all need new braking systems.
Like I said in a earlier post, My LCI does not make any noises,and NO brake squeal ever.

I would take the car to another BMW dealership. It should get fixed end off.

jrinns

370 posts

183 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
Not that I'm aware of.

It's funny how the LCI cars are not afflicted: do BMW know what the problem is and engineer solutions into the LCI cars?

I think so.

I've driven seven LCI M5s over the last fortnight, with not one of them having that ridiculous clicking.

Does anyone know anything to the contrary??
Mine is LCI and has it ! Going to book it in next week.

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
I'm just tired of BMW dealers, they seem to go from bad to worse.

Other half now has a new Golf R and, as much as it pains me to say, I have more fun driving it than I do the M5!

Time for a change methinks: does anyone know anything about the new Cayman GTS??
My experience of owning an F12 M6 and trying to get the problems fixed by the BMW dealer was akin to buying a private jet only to find out that a Ryan Air crew will be handling your boarding and inflight service.

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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sealtt said:
My experience of owning an F12 M6 and trying to get the problems fixed by the BMW dealer was akin to buying a private jet only to find out that a Ryan Air crew will be handling your boarding and inflight service.
That just about sums up my feelings on the matter!

skeeterm5

3,344 posts

188 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
Don't worry mate, I'm near to pulling the plug!

How are you finding the Carlton?

Interesting choice Sir!
Just back from a 370 mile round trip, mix of motorway, A and B roads and the car was fantastic. Knock it into 6th on the motorway and 70/80 is 1500 rpm!

On the A/B roads it is as quick as you want and when I was filling up with fuel two chaps came over to chat and say they cant recall the last one they saw on the road.

All in all a great day out and much more memorable than most journeys in the M cars I have owned.

S

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Nothing on mine (May 2014 so MY15). All good (in fact excellent).

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Thanks, that's good to know!

It confirms my thinking!!

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Well, almost three months after a technical request was raised with BMW (Germany) about this matter, I was today informed that there was no fix. I had to phone Customer Services yet again, as Elms made no effort whatsoever to contact me, even after intervention by Customer Services.

It seems nobody wanted to break the embarrassing news that BMW could offer no solution for this well documented issue with one of their flagship models.

LCI models from around March 14 appear not to have the problem.

I'm curious about one thing: why does the noise occur only on turning left and only on the driver's side??

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Jazzer said:
Well, almost three months after a technical request was raised with BMW (Germany) about this matter, I was today informed that there was no fix. I had to phone Customer Services yet again, as Elms made no effort whatsoever to contact me, even after intervention by Customer Services.

It seems nobody wanted to break the embarrassing news that BMW could offer no solution for this well documented issue with one of their flagship models.

LCI models from around March 14 appear not to have the problem.

I'm curious about one thing: why does the noise occur only on turning left and only on the driver's side??
I have heard there is a brake modification which sorts this problem.

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I don't recall my Sept 2013 LCi having this issue either.

Saying that it did have other issues so maybe i just never noticed it.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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skeeterm5 said:
Jazzer said:
I used to love Subaru dealers in my Scooby days, fabulous customer service.

I saw a P1 the other day and that's got me dreaming of a simpler, more honest car that can be grabbed by the scruff of its neck and driven hard.....fabulous, all-weather fun.

Thinking time.
Don't think about it - do it. I ran 2 e60 M5s and then an e92 M3, tied of the whole thing and now run a Lotus Carlton. I now enjoy driving again.

S
I did the German thing with a Cayman and a V8 M3. Great cars, but the whole main dealer thing gets on my wick. You just get taken for a ride.

Back in a Scooby now for my weekend toy. If something does go wrong, it's on the phone to my indy and invariably he has diagnosed it before I have finished my sentence - and the best bit, he's always right and fixes it first time.

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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And how great is that, eh?

I really miss all that.

Used to love going in to my Subaru dealer.....they loved the cars as much as I did and nothing was ever a problem.....long chats with fellow enthusiasts!

What Scooby have you got?

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Jazzer said:
And how great is that, eh?

I really miss all that.

Used to love going in to my Subaru dealer.....they loved the cars as much as I did and nothing was ever a problem.....long chats with fellow enthusiasts!

What Scooby have you got?
2007 STi, built engine, running 350bhp and about 380 ft/lbs. It's silly fast smile

jrinns

370 posts

183 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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JMBMWM5 said:
have heard there is a brake modification which sorts this problem.
the car has been in today , not fixed as a part is required. its the wheel bearings apparently according to a BMW.

Jazzer

Original Poster:

1,674 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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jrinns said:
JMBMWM5 said:
have heard there is a brake modification which sorts this problem.
the car has been in today , not fixed as a part is required. its the wheel bearings apparently according to a BMW.
BMW have told me it's not the wheel bearings!

People who've had them changed have had the problem recur.

The report from BMW Technical cites an issue related to the front calipers...

Jazzer

Original Poster:

1,674 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Up-date....

Elms have fitted different pads at the front, as advised by BMW Technical.

The clicking is no longer present (I've not heard it since!), but time will tell whether or not this is a permanent solution.

  • Elms went out of their way to make amends for my previous negative experience, so fair play to them.