BMW M6 V10 - more problems!

BMW M6 V10 - more problems!

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Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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When it runs right, it runs perfect. When it doesn't then it is a ballache.

A lot of the problems are re-occuring meaning they weren't fixed properly the first time around.

What are my options guys? Can I force supplying dealer to take some sort of actions, buy it back, reimburse me, swap it with something else etc?

Or shall I get it fixed and then sell it (at a loss)?

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
When it runs right, it runs perfect. When it doesn't then it is a ballache.

A lot of the problems are re-occuring meaning they weren't fixed properly the first time around.

What are my options guys? Can I force supplying dealer to take some sort of actions, buy it back, reimburse me, swap it with something else etc?

Or shall I get it fixed and then sell it (at a loss)?
How long have you had the car? Did you buy it direct from BMW (AUC)? Afaik there is at least 1 years warranty given but I'm not sure if it covers clutches as it could be considered wear and tear.


c7xlg

862 posts

231 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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hopefully your current problems are just a failing battery, so that is know for giving lots of weird errors on E6Xs as the voltage becomes unstable.

Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,342 posts

188 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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crazy about cars said:
Schermerhorn said:
When it runs right, it runs perfect. When it doesn't then it is a ballache.

A lot of the problems are re-occuring meaning they weren't fixed properly the first time around.

What are my options guys? Can I force supplying dealer to take some sort of actions, buy it back, reimburse me, swap it with something else etc?

Or shall I get it fixed and then sell it (at a loss)?
How long have you had the car? Did you buy it direct from BMW (AUC)? Afaik there is at least 1 years warranty given but I'm not sure if it covers clutches as it could be considered wear and tear.
Car is AUC from Leicester. I negotiated a 2 year warranty (thank God!) but car was a pup from day one.

Over filling of brake fluid

VANOS light

VANOS valve and pipe replacement

Transmission error
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Transmission error + idle + PDC (not that bothered about that to be honest)

What a headache!

Please AMG...forgive me. I'll come back!!!

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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Mmm... sounds like a bit of a nightmare. Don't get me wrong I would love a V10 but if I do go down that route I think I'll rather choose an Audi...

It's AUC and it's still under warranty so I'd recommend bringing it into the dealership and let them sort it. Some BMW dealerships do suffer from poor after sales service so be persistent and firm!

Schermerhorn said:
Car is AUC from Leicester. I negotiated a 2 year warranty (thank God!) but car was a pup from day one.

Over filling of brake fluid

VANOS light

VANOS valve and pipe replacement

Transmission error
`
Transmission error + idle + PDC (not that bothered about that to be honest)

What a headache!

Please AMG...forgive me. I'll come back!!!

skeeterm5

3,328 posts

187 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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crazy about cars said:
Take it into another dealer, the AUC isn't specific to the dealer you purchased from.

S

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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skeeterm5 said:
crazy about cars said:
Take it into another dealer, the AUC isn't specific to the dealer you purchased from.

S
Car is with Sandal but I purchased from Sytner. Last thing I want to do is see those idiots at Sytner lol biggrin

burwoodman

18,709 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
crazy about cars said:
Schermerhorn said:
When it runs right, it runs perfect. When it doesn't then it is a ballache.

A lot of the problems are re-occuring meaning they weren't fixed properly the first time around.

What are my options guys? Can I force supplying dealer to take some sort of actions, buy it back, reimburse me, swap it with something else etc?

Or shall I get it fixed and then sell it (at a loss)?
How long have you had the car? Did you buy it direct from BMW (AUC)? Afaik there is at least 1 years warranty given but I'm not sure if it covers clutches as it could be considered wear and tear.
Car is AUC from Leicester. I negotiated a 2 year warranty (thank God!) but car was a pup from day one.

Over filling of brake fluid

VANOS light

VANOS valve and pipe replacement

Transmission error
`
Transmission error + idle + PDC (not that bothered about that to be honest)

What a headache!

Please AMG...forgive me. I'll come back!!!
First thing I'd do is get a report of all warranty work life to date then proceed. I owned a Friday build 7 and managed to reject based on bmw knowing it was a shed

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I did that and all that came up was a replaced sump and a faulty sensor under the seat.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Fwiw I'd try another garage that has a reputation for knowing M cars.good luck

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Got an update from BMW today.

They have replaced the thermostat. This was causing the idle problem. The car didn't know if it was running too hot or cold thereby causing an idle problem (from cold starts or even after a run) and shut itself down.

Second issue and most important. It looks as though I may possibly need a new clutch and flywheel. Huddersfield are checking with Leicester BMW to check if the car was prepped properly to AUC standards (which IMO it was not) and which faults and issues were highlighted and sorted (or ignored). They are going to check if the car has ever used launch control which I know it hasn't from me and then get back to me with the findings.

Given the problems I've had with the car from day one re transmission and then later the error codes I am hopeful of a new clutch and flywheel which will hopefully put the entire matter to bed once and for all and have the car running as it should.

Cost of new clutch and flywheel with labour = over £5000! *ouch*

Shaoxter

4,048 posts

123 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Given all the issues you've had and the fact that BMW have historically been pretty good replacing clutches under warranty I'd say you have a strong case. Get them to change the clutch release bearing while they're at it.

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Given all the issues you've had and the fact that BMW have historically been pretty good replacing clutches under warranty I'd say you have a strong case. Get them to change the clutch release bearing while they're at it.
Deffo, although looking at how it comes as a package, the release bearing is part of the clutch kit; 3 piece kit consisting of clutch plate, cover plate, release bearing (and the flywheel)



SACHS (re-branded as BMW OE) item number 3000951019 if anyone is interested.

Edited by Schermerhorn on Thursday 21st August 16:09

burwoodman

18,709 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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that's crazy, 5k for that. Id be fuming if I got stuck with the bill- glad you seem to have resolved the issues.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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that's crazy, 5k for that. Id be fuming if I got stuck with the bill- glad you seem to have resolved the issues.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

155 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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burwoodman said:
that's crazy, 5k for that. Id be fuming if I got stuck with the bill- glad you seem to have resolved the issues.
Cost is mostly in the Labour.

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Nice progress - hopefully it works out for you. I'll be interested to know about the launch control investigation outcome.

Never realised clutches are replaced under warranty as I'm pretty sure it's not covered in my E92 AUC warranty.

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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crazy about cars said:
Nice progress - hopefully it works out for you. I'll be interested to know about the launch control investigation outcome.

Never realised clutches are replaced under warranty as I'm pretty sure it's not covered in my E92 AUC warranty.
They normally are not but because I have been having issues since day one with the car, they have - or will - put it down to very shoddy pre sale prep from supplying dealer. Reoccuring problems are more than a coincidence.

If it happens again I basically have a strong case to reject the car.

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Ah I see... a new clutch would definitely improve things. I've read there's an updated release bearing too.

Fingers crossed for you mate!

longfellow

551 posts

142 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Hopefully once they've sorted the clutch issue you can start enjoying the car a little more.

Keep us posted and good luck.