BMW M6 V10 - more problems!

BMW M6 V10 - more problems!

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Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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This is starting to feel familiar as I'm typing this....frown

I took my car to Bolton on Tuesday with my daughter, thinking we'd have a lovely daddy-daughter day together, (yeah I know, Bolton isn't lovely, but they have that Steak Bus thing which I love).

Anyway, as I get there, I get stuck in traffic and the car suddenly turns off. I'm thinking "WTF now???". How can a car without a clutch pedal stall like that?

Then....my PDC fails just as I am reversing. I nearly hit someone thinking "yepppp, plenty of room...oh sh*ttt I don't have plenty of room". Big yellow light comes on, PDC failure highlighted in idrive. Great(!)

Wait....it gets better.

On the way home, car starts to feel lumpy as though it is weighed down by an anchor. It's still fast and can out-accelerate anything that wants to have a go but it feels really 'lumpy'. As though a coil is not working or something. Then, under a little acceleration burst in 5th or 6th gear this comes up in the idrive (ignore the date, it's an old picture I took previously)



It's as though the gearbox can't cope with the torque and an error comes up. I wasn't even going fast and was well within the national speed limit.

So, I drove home and very angry I just drove into the BMW dealership and told them to take the car and fix it. It is under warranty and it shouldn't be a problem. One small issue....they are fully booked until the 3rd of September but if they have an opening time slot available or cancellation they'll look at my car.

I know it is Summer and all, but howwww lonnnnggg? Is this the norm with main dealerships, long summer backlogs and the like? I'm not angry at the dealership, they have work to do and good on them but I'm not sure what is more frustrating, the car or being in such a long queue?

Anyway, rant over.

I'd love to say "these are great cars guys" but I just don't feel the love any more unfortunately. Should have stuck to the C63 AMG when I had it frown


gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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oh dear. these are high maintenance.

Shaoxter

4,048 posts

123 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...

Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.

Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?

gaz1234 said:
oh dear. these are high maintenance.
Definately. The idle control seems to be a problem on the S85 V10 from what I can gather. The gearbox issues are all well documented as we all know. On the bright side, no red cog of death has come up. biggrin

(I want to laugh, but inside I feel like crying biggrin)

Edited by Schermerhorn on Thursday 14th August 10:38

Soov535

35,829 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.

Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
How old is the car mate? How many miles?

Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.

Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
How old is the car mate? How many miles?
June 2006.

Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.

BlackPorker

378 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
Sadly, I think he's right. I had a 2005 E60 M5 for 2 years and the only major issue I had was a throttle actuator which took them 3 days to fix.

Soov535

35,829 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.

Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
How old is the car mate? How many miles?
June 2006.

Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
Sadly I think you are reliant upon the warranty. Nothing stops you from going back to them and saying you want to give it back though and get your money back. Although I doubt they'll agree.

You get other cars from them? Any commercial leverage?



Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.

Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
How old is the car mate? How many miles?
June 2006.

Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
Sadly I think you are reliant upon the warranty. Nothing stops you from going back to them and saying you want to give it back though and get your money back. Although I doubt they'll agree.

You get other cars from them? Any commercial leverage?
Unfortunately, no commercial leverage. I suppose I have the list of faults to argue my case but as you said the warranty seems to be the saving grace.

Wills2

22,664 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Just get it fixed and then sell it back to them or go chop it in for another C63, IIRC you did a lot of hand wringing on here about buying a reliable one so it's a shame that you managed to buy a lemon.

And if the dealer can't start work on it until September just take it to another one, plenty of BMW dealers around.




cosworth330

1,299 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I've had my E60 M5 for nearly a year and have a BMW warranty but never had to use it, had no issues at all it's been just as reliable as any other car I've had. I know I could get a problem at any time but looking back through your posts you've had a lot issues.

Simon

Schermerhorn

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4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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cosworth330 said:
I've had my E60 M5 for nearly a year and have a BMW warranty but never had to use it, had no issues at all it's been just as reliable as any other car I've had. I know I could get a problem at any time but looking back through your posts you've had a lot issues.

Simon
It has been back 5 times but the issues really have been the VANOS (visit 2 and 3) and the transmissiom issue (visit 4)

Visit 2 and 4 they just cleared faults rather than fixing hardware.

Visit 5 I am hoping for hardware replacement and rectification rather than fault clearing on a computer.

They are a good garage though and service has been very good everytime. Unfortunately my car was not prepped properly and they wanted to hit their monthly sales target and get the sale (imo).

Edited by Schermerhorn on Thursday 14th August 19:37

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
June 2006.

Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
At that mileage I'd definitely want a new clutch and improved bearings.

jonah35

3,940 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I just don't think I could be bothered with the hassle. I think your car is lovely but to be honest id rather have a brand new diesel with no problems.

More headache than its worth but it does appear youve got a lemon,
Logos luck

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

168 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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jonah35 said:
I just don't think I could be bothered with the hassle. I think your car is lovely but to be honest id rather have a brand new diesel with no problems.

More headache than its worth but it does appear youve got a lemon,
Logos luck
Brand new diesel? Need make sure it's Euro VI compliant.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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jonah35 said:
I just don't think I could be bothered with the hassle. I think your car is lovely but to be honest id rather have a brand new diesel with no problems.

More headache than its worth but it does appear youve got a lemon,
Logos luck
Diesel? We'll ghay

cosworth330

1,299 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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When the previous owner of my M5 road tested it at BMW main dealer (AUC car) it was on 39k and the Red cog came on whilst test driving. The salesman said don't worry sir we will reset the clutch settings !!! He told them to put a new clutch / fly or no deal. It clutch fly & CPS before sale . Luck I suppose as that red cog could have come on a few weeks after sale.


anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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What's a Steak Bus?

BlackPorker

378 posts

174 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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REALIST123 said:
What's a Steak Bus?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steak+bus+bolton

BDM

407 posts

181 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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cosworth330 said:
I've had my E60 M5 for nearly a year and have a BMW warranty but never had to use it, had no issues at all it's been just as reliable as any other car I've had. I know I could get a problem at any time but looking back through your posts you've had a lot issues.

Simon
I'm the same with my M6 V10 monster... Touch wood it continues to be a dream to live with...

Sorry to hear of your problems frown