Any new F80 M3 owners with brakes issues?

Any new F80 M3 owners with brakes issues?

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shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Just covered under 1k miles in my new F80 M3 and experienced a intermittent fault.
I would be interested if anyone has had a similar experience?

Twice within the the first 250 miles when I pulled up to a halt, then pulled away had a loud twang noise (like a spring going off ) from rear of car.
Took it to dealership, no fault found after trying to re-create it.
They had quick check as we were heading off to the Lakes for the weekend, and they said it was safe to use.
On return from Lakes on Sunday the traffic was stop / start from J20 on the M6, about two miles from M5 junction traffic came to halt again, this time car wouldn't move off!
Traffic on both sides starting moving at a rapid rate of knots and started to wonder what to do next, wife had the solution, panic!
Tried to move again and loud brake like drone came from rear of car.
At this time I was very conscious of the traffic behind us was probably wondering what was going on.
I had nothing to lose so moved Dct gear change to reverse and back again, thank god it moved off this time.

Think the fault will be very difficult to find and I don't want to go down the route of parts being changed without the actual fault being found, and being told to try it out and see how it goes!
I feel car is not safe to use, so had dealership take it away this afternoon.
I have said that I don't want it back as I don't think I could ever trust it would never happen again.
Too risky when I have to consider the wife could be driving it without me and the two kids on board.

Obviously very disappointed, as I am a BMW enthusiast and the current cars are x5 and a csl and had 5 other bmw's beforehand.

Now waiting for dealership response, so appreciate comments and knowing what my rights are?

Shawn





jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Sounds strange.
It sounds like a handbrake issue to me. The monoblock brakes are very simple. I can't think what could cause those to jam and then ping off with a a spring noise.
Either way I hope you get it resolved quickly so it doesn't taint the ownership experience any more than it already has.
Jack

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Does it have one of those sh*tty electric hand brakes?

jackwood

2,613 posts

208 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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No. A real one.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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jackwood said:
No. A real one.
Hmmm might be binding hand brake shoes. All 3 series have had issues with them sticking in the past. I should know, I have sold plenty online and over the counter!

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Thanks, forgot to say it has Carbon Ceramic's
I don't know if that makes any difference.
Rgds
Shawn

cringle

397 posts

186 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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how very odd, my M4 did this just yesterday, first time, appeared to stick for a second, then twang and off i went. not really worried

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Wait until you are in traffic and car won't move!
Do you have carbon ceramics?
Thanks
Shawn

The JM

133 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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I have steel disks, but it has done the same thing a few times, although only made a noise and never refused to move. I am aware of a hill start assist on the DCT box that allows you to come off the brakes whilst in D and onto the throttle without the car rolling backwards. I have assumed it has something to do with that.

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Many Thanks
That's interesting
I hope it doesn't happen to you, if it does select reverse and back to drive, and hopefully that will do the trick.
I will let you all know what happens next with the dealer.
Rgds
Shawn

Palmball

1,269 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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In the limited time I had our M3 (couple of months), I experienced this exact twanging noise 4-5 times. It would also intermittently make a grinding noise which, if you were outside the car, sounded very unhealthy. When my missus pulled up at home and I was outside, I thought the car was broken and just added to the embarrassing noises this car would make (like the awful start up sound). Both issues with the brakes were supposedly investigate by my dealer and unsurprisingly came back as no fault found.

I also had groaning brakes almost from day one whenever stopping from high speed. I expect performance brakes to make a noise (like squealing) but these just felt worn out and you could feel the groaning through the wheel (not like a vibration as you'd get with warped discs, just a strange sensation'). Again, no fault found.

I thankfully never had the brakes actually seize and stop the car moving but one thing's for sure....it wasn't right. And if we kept it, it would've driven me mad not getting to the bottom of what the problem was.


What with these issues with the brakes, the rattles from the interior trim and the creaky door seals, I'm glad to be shot of the thing!

cringle

397 posts

186 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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I have the regular steel brakes. My car is parked on a slight incline all day when i'm in work. Last few days when it's been cold, the car hasnt rolled when i've released the handbrake like it used to. Seems as though the colder weather is making something stick. When i've pressed the accelerator there is a little resistance, then a twang, then off as normal.

Cringle

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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I've had the same noise on my Porsche, but only on the few times I've put it in the garage with wet discs.
Happens the next time I use it - I leave the handbrake off as well, but still get the initial resistance and then the twang.

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Thanks for the responses.
There is a internal mail going around BMW about this issue to see if other dealers have had similar reports.
It would help get this issue highlighted and resolved quickly, so please let your dealer/s know of the problem you have experienced.
Thanks
Shawn

ab80

190 posts

140 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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I have steels and never noticed a noise like that in a little over 5k miles.

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...

Looks like there are a few other issues reported.
Rgds
Shawn


Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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A 'few' other issues?!

Bloody Hell.
This'll be our first M car but 5th BMW in 14 years - never had any issues with the others.

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

198 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Glad I did not jump to get this one, needs the first year to sort it properly.

jon-

16,505 posts

216 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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I presume this car has automatic hill start assist like the M135i has? Could it be that grabbing a little, or in your case, refusing to let go?

shawn 968cs

Original Poster:

220 posts

203 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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I guess so, didn't have it long enough to get the manual out and take a look.

PS If anyone is getting a M3 or M4 and has young children and has Isofix seats, it may pay to try your seats in the car first!
We have Britax seats, two types, one is nearly impossible to fit and the other will not fit, also placement of seatbelt buckle is a pain to say the least.
These seats have been in my Audi A7, (A4 & A6 loan cars when A7 in for service) Wife's X5, Audi A3, T5 Carravelle, Audi SQ5 with no issue.

rgds
Shawn