S85 V10 Rod bearing issues in the UK

S85 V10 Rod bearing issues in the UK

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longintheleg

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551 posts

144 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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There seems to be an awful lot of talk about rod bearing failure on the M5Board forum but mainly about cars in the states. So I was wondering, how many owners have had issues with theirs over on this side of the pond?

Perhaps list a few details about the car such as age, mileage, has it had any track time, is it stock etc

Hopefully we won't see any more posts after this one!! smile

cosworth330

1,300 posts

238 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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No different from E36 M3,E46 M3,E39 M5,M3 V8 some have have suffered with the same problem. Don't worry about it just go and buy an E61 M5 and enjoy it.

jcolley

183 posts

127 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Look up member GJS on M5board. He's in the UK and has replaced the rod bearings on probably 10 or more cars. Not in the UK, but Duschanio (on M5board) is in Germany and has done better than 25 cars. Some get lucky, some don't. There's a guy who's made a nice business selling S85s in the states and sold over 120 in two years. 98% of those have been due to spun bearings.

longintheleg

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551 posts

144 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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jcolley said:
Look up member GJS on M5board. He's in the UK and has replaced the rod bearings on probably 10 or more cars. Not in the UK, but Duschanio (on M5board) is in Germany and has done better than 25 cars. Some get lucky, some don't. There's a guy who's made a nice business selling S85s in the states and sold over 120 in two years. 98% of those have been due to spun bearings.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.

What's the easiest way of checking the condition of the bearings?

Has anyone done this? If so, how much did it cost and which company did the work?
I may give PMW a call to see what they say.

longintheleg

Original Poster:

551 posts

144 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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jcolley said:
Look up member GJS on M5board. He's in the UK and has replaced the rod bearings on probably 10 or more cars. Not in the UK, but Duschanio (on M5board) is in Germany and has done better than 25 cars. Some get lucky, some don't. There's a guy who's made a nice business selling S85s in the states and sold over 120 in two years. 98% of those have been due to spun bearings.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.

What's the easiest way of checking the condition of the bearings?

Has anyone done this? If so, how much did it cost and which company did the work?
I may give PMW a call to see what they say.

Johnky647

140 posts

139 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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longintheleg said:
Interesting, thanks for sharing.

What's the easiest way of checking the condition of the bearings?

Has anyone done this? If so, how much did it cost and which company did the work?
I may give PMW a call to see what they say.
The only way to check the condition of bearings is to get everything out and see the bearings yourself.
That's unless you've seen metal shavings during your oil change. (fingers crossed that doesn't happen)
I assume that you're interested in doing this since your M's at over 60k+ mileage.
If so you're better off changing them anyway cus the labour cost is gonna be significant (not worth checking it then doing it next time again).

jcolley

183 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Johnky647 said:
The only way to check the condition of bearings is to get everything out and see the bearings yourself.
That's unless you've seen metal shavings during your oil change. (fingers crossed that doesn't happen)
I assume that you're interested in doing this since your M's at over 60k+ mileage.
If so you're better off changing them anyway cus the labour cost is gonna be significant (not worth checking it then doing it next time again).
Completely agree. The parts cost is inconsequential in comparison to the labor. While you're in there it worthwhile to change the VANOS pump tensioners, the VANOS high pressure line, and thoroughly inspect the VANOS drive gears (on the pump and crankshaft) for any sign of wear.

I don't trust very many people to touch my engine, but if I lived in the UK I'd head to Luton and have Raikku at Evolve do the job.

longintheleg

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551 posts

144 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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jcolley said:
Completely agree. The parts cost is inconsequential in comparison to the labor. While you're in there it worthwhile to change the VANOS pump tensioners, the VANOS high pressure line, and thoroughly inspect the VANOS drive gears (on the pump and crankshaft) for any sign of wear.

I don't trust very many people to touch my engine, but if I lived in the UK I'd head to Luton and have Raikku at Evolve do the job.
That's exactly my trail of thought.

Do Evolve do general maintenance and servicing as well then?

hantsxlg

862 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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birds auto (m40/m25 junction area) are well worth considering as well. They have lots of M-car experience and a very good reputation.

longintheleg

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551 posts

144 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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hantsxlg said:
birds auto (m40/m25 junction area) are well worth considering as well. They have lots of M-car experience and a very good reputation.
Thanks but as Evolve are very well respected in tuning circles, I was just wondering if I could take an M5 there for some servicing etc.

ady702

376 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Also try Phil http://www.cpcpe.com

knows his M cars inside out

Evolve can do what you want too, decent guys.

longintheleg

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551 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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ady702 said:
Also try Phil http://www.cpcpe.com

knows his M cars inside out

Evolve can do what you want too, decent guys.
Yeah, I've heard good things about Phil and his team and will no doubt be using their services in due course.

jcolley

183 posts

127 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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longintheleg said:
That's exactly my trail of thought.

Do Evolve do general maintenance and servicing as well then?
Yes, Raikku recently moved from Finland to Luton and is working with them. There are few people in the world with as much or more S85 knowledge.