E60 M5 remap by DMS

E60 M5 remap by DMS

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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King Eric said:
PM me the DMS price?
What's all this secrecy about the price?

longintheleg

551 posts

143 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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I've heard that its around £700 but I could be mistaken.

Shaoxter

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4,077 posts

124 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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AW10 said:
interesting to note that there wasn't much difference up to 150 or so and then when you shifted into 6th the difference grew and grew.

I presume the rpm spikes in 3rd were wheel spin?
Well the stock cars are limited to 168mph or so (and then slow down to 155mph I think).
The small spike at the start looks like a bump in the road, TC was in MDM mode so should still have intervened a bit if there was wheelspin.

King Eric said:
Seen any difference in economy fuel wise on a normal run?
I don't drive to work and don't really drive the same routes so can't really comment on fuel economy.

mybrainhurts said:
King Eric said:
PM me the DMS price?
What's all this secrecy about the price?
Well I PMed someone the price at the start and then more people asked for PMs... anyway as there seem to be lots of people interested in the price, it was £725 +VAT.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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King Eric said:
3 degrees, 180mph and in the rain. Props Sir.

You could be jailed for that in England and stoned and told off by people in Birkenstock slippers etc.

Just goes to show how capable and Ffffing fast these cars are and still are even in current money.

PM me the DMS price? Seen any difference in economy fuel wise on a normal run?
Well, lucky this was on an "autobahn" (nudge, nudge, wink,wink - say no more!)

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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King Eric said:
3 degrees, 180mph and in the rain. Props Sir.

You could be jailed for that in England and stoned and told off by people in Birkenstock slippers etc.

Just goes to show how capable and Ffffing fast these cars are and still are even in current money.

PM me the DMS price? Seen any difference in economy fuel wise on a normal run?
Well, lucky this was on an "autobahn" (nudge, nudge, wink,wink - say no more!)

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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King Eric said:
3 degrees, 180mph and in the rain. Props Sir.

You could be jailed for that in England and stoned and told off by people in Birkenstock slippers etc.

Just goes to show how capable and Ffffing fast these cars are and still are even in current money.

PM me the DMS price? Seen any difference in economy fuel wise on a normal run?
Excellent, proper LOLsmile

Dapple

41 posts

129 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Heres my gripe about DMS, they use a DynoDynamics dyno which has one of THE BEST calibration systems in the world for temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, drivetrain losses etc...

ALL tuners that have it, use it. It clearly displays all of the run calibration info to ensure no mistakes (or cheating) has happened and displays it on all of the printed graphs for the world to see.

DMS choose to only ever allow pictures and graphs WITHOUT this information, and always switch the dyno into ramp modeso its hidden.

I cant see the reason for this unless one of the following is true:

1. They dont like using shootout mode and prefer to guess the calibration numbers for estimated flywheel figures (all other tuners love it and use it to their advantage to create repeatable, dependable results)
2. They have massaged the numbers to look better and hide this info on purpose.

Vixpy1

42,624 posts

264 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Dapple said:
Heres my gripe about DMS, they use a DynoDynamics dyno which has one of THE BEST calibration systems in the world for temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, drivetrain losses etc...

ALL tuners that have it, use it. It clearly displays all of the run calibration info to ensure no mistakes (or cheating) has happened and displays it on all of the printed graphs for the world to see.

DMS choose to only ever allow pictures and graphs WITHOUT this information, and always switch the dyno into ramp modeso its hidden.

I cant see the reason for this unless one of the following is true:

1. They dont like using shootout mode and prefer to guess the calibration numbers for estimated flywheel figures (all other tuners love it and use it to their advantage to create repeatable, dependable results)
2. They have massaged the numbers to look better and hide this info on purpose.
One of the dyno manufactuers worse moves, on the later software , if you run the car in a higher gear than DD recommend ( and most operators do) It strips the shootout data from the bottom of the sheet.

Thats why I'm still on a software version from 2005!

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Dapple said:
Heres my gripe about DMS, they use a DynoDynamics dyno which has one of THE BEST calibration systems in the world for temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, drivetrain losses etc...

ALL tuners that have it, use it. It clearly displays all of the run calibration info to ensure no mistakes (or cheating) has happened and displays it on all of the printed graphs for the world to see.

DMS choose to only ever allow pictures and graphs WITHOUT this information, and always switch the dyno into ramp modeso its hidden.

I cant see the reason for this unless one of the following is true:

1. They dont like using shootout mode and prefer to guess the calibration numbers for estimated flywheel figures (all other tuners love it and use it to their advantage to create repeatable, dependable results)
2. They have massaged the numbers to look better and hide this info on purpose.
Knowing DMS as well as I do & having used their services on many of my cars, I doubt very much any impropriety is taking place. Just look at the client list & marques/models they work on, if anything didn't add up & this applies to all tuners they'd be burnt at the stake.

However I've never asked the question regarding the different dyno modes & only ever consider any plot to be an indicator & measure of improvement from one stage/modification to another.


Shaoxter

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4,077 posts

124 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Upon reviewing the footage, here's some performance times smile

60-100mph: 5.15s, but shifted a bit early from 3rd to 4th at 97mph, would have been ~4.9s in 3rd I think
60-125mph: 9.2s
60-150mph: 15.2s
60-180mph: 26.3s

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Shaoxter said:
Upon reviewing the footage, here's some performance times smile

60-100mph: 5.15s, but shifted a bit early from 3rd to 4th at 97mph, would have been ~4.9s in 3rd I think
60-125mph: 9.2s
60-150mph: 15.2s
60-180mph: 26.3s
Nicesmile

Got a VBOX sport on its way from Demon so am looking forward to seeing what my F10 can do.