Discounts on new M3/M4?

[ZX10R NIN]

CheesyFootballs said:

Lesson learnt *for me*.

If you want to keep the car for a long time then fine.

The main issue with Alpina is zero discount on a new factory order, puts you at a loss instantly against a quite heavily discounted 3 series.

Therefore, I will never buy a new one again.

Edited by CheesyFootballs on Saturday 3rd January 11:39

Four years isn't a long time but I get your point I agree that buying an Alpina brand new puts you at a greater loss straight away than the equivalent BMW, as I stated earlier the M3 we were offered still works out at 2k less than the Alpina and 11k more than a 335d, when you're talking about new the price difference worked out at 1k between the M3 & D3 once spec'd to the same level but it feels a bit more special inside than the M3.

The high price of both is why we are buying an ex demo that has already suffered the "lost a load of money once you've driven out of the dealership syndrome" big drop.

I also concede most people looking for an M3 won't even look at a D3 but even if you buy the B3 I think the case still stands that Alpinas hold their money that little bit better their M3 brethren.

[revtime]

Any update on this guys?

12% discount seems pretty reasonable, reckon that will improve in the next 3 months dramatically?

Edited by revtime on Friday 9th January 04:19

[ZX10R NIN]

revtime said:

Any update on this guys?

12% discount seems pretty reasonable, reckon that will improve in the next 3 months dramatically?

Edited by revtime on Friday 9th January 04:19

12% is the norm but some people have haggled 15% so if you're after one you know what to aim for or just get an ex demo but take a look at the M5 to.

[Burwood]

GameOverMan! said:

Not trying to teach anyone to 'suck eggs' but the usual applies: pick your dealership - some are more flexible than others, don't be tied to a local dealer and pick your time of the month/year e.g. last week of the month etc.

Also, know what deal you want, stick to your guns and be prepared to walk away. I always give them my card in case they change their mind after you've walked out of the show room - they usually do.

The usual saying applies: 'if they aren't crying, I ain't buying'. Push them hard but be prepared to sign on the dotted line when you get what you want. The less up front lessons the blow at trade in time.

I travelled over 500 miles round trip to buy my last car from a small dealership. But I saved many, many thousands as a result and the mileage helped with the run in process. The sales response was vastly better than the one five mile away - they wouldn't give me any discount, didn't know their stock, were over-priced and were plain infuriating (read: retarded).

Echo that- when we purchased my wifes car from VAG, the local dealer offered her £50 off. Then said ok a set of mats. I looked at him in disbelief. Looking over his stock search i spied a dealer in Wales had the exact spec. A phone call and a quick deal secured 8% off which took all of 5 mins. 300 miles each way and the dealer service was superb

[GameOverMan!]

Folks if you're buying a car at this time of year then you should be getting the best deals. Crappy weather means quiet showrooms. The sales folk need to hit numbers to make commission, they have credit cards to pay off and keep the GM of their backs.

Used cars vales will dip in value in March given the new reg plates. Don't buy in March - the sales people will be snowed dealing with new regs. Wait until the last week of Jan, go for a good price and confirm you'll buy before the end of the month.

You're happy and so is the sales person... win-win.

[NORTS]

I see the nearly new M4s are in the £4xK region now. Be interested to see how much they drop over next few months.

[GameOverMan!]

Be carefull of mileage and spec. Some dealers think nearly new with 4K miles, poor spec and high price isn't an issue.

It's reasonable to expect prices to pick up in April.

[CheesyFootballs]

Can't see any AUC M4's starting with a 4.
Only a couple of M3's, everything else is £50-60k

[GameOverMan!]

CheesyFootballs said:

Can't see any AUC M4's starting with a 4.
Only a couple of M3's, everything else is £50-60k

Sorry, Didn't check - forgot it was part of the 'not as good as last one' and 'rapid price reduction' process of new M3/4 which we should expect.

This time we need also to factor in the Golf R as a better proposition or an M5. As always those seeking a coupe want a four door exec saloon. :-)

[revtime]

ZX10R NIN said:

12% is the norm but some people have haggled 15% so if you're after one you know what to aim for or just get an ex demo but take a look at the M5 to.

Did you manage to get 15% off list, or is this other PH'ers?

Thanks

[NORTS]

CheesyFootballs said:

Can't see any AUC M4's starting with a 4.
Only a couple of M3's, everything else is £50-60k

Use autotrader. Menzies BMW which is a main dealer for example. £49k.

[CheesyFootballs]

Found them.
Half decent value at that price.
Seems a lot for sale for £50-53k, but spec dependant.

Last October when I was looking, some E9x's were still for sale for mid 40's - with the F80's now heading down to that level I think it represents good value for your money.

If, as some think, the E cars are better, do we think we'll see both models competing at the same or very similar price level?
I can't remember the E9x's taking such a hit in the first 6 months of release (was there a waiting list?).

[NORTS]

CheesyFootballs said:

Found them.
Half decent value at that price.
Seems a lot for sale for £50-53k, but spec dependant.

Last October when I was looking, some E9x's were still for sale for mid 40's - with the F80's now heading down to that level I think it represents good value for your money.

If, as some think, the E cars are better, do we think we'll see both models competing at the same or very similar price level?
I can't remember the E9x's taking such a hit in the first 6 months of release (was there a waiting list?).

People are suggested good E92s won't drop below 20k. Good E46 models are still in the teens.

E92 was launched at a hard time with the recession so hard to really compare, there was a waiting list but I believe prices did drop due to the recession and actually did rise back up at one point. As I said it will be interesting to see how much the M4 will drop with the negative reviews and seemingly lack of demand.

[Wills2]

I got my first e92 in Dec 2008 for 38k a 1000 mile 3 month old car, they were giving them away due to the credit crunch, 7 months later I got 42k for it after 16k miles, the next one I got was 63k list and got it for 45k (brand new) sold that for 34.5k after 18mths and 38k miles which wasn't bad considering the miles I'd done.

I'm used to getting M3s at a good discount but when I was looking at the new one they wouldn't offer anything and it wasn't "all of that" so I decided to wait for the CP version which I believe they will release soon, good to note that they have started offering deals though.

[Burwood]

Wills2 said:

I got my first e92 in Dec 2008 for 38k a 1000 mile 3 month old car, they were giving them away due to the credit crunch, 7 months later I got 42k for it after 16k miles, the next one I got was 63k list and got it for 45k (brand new) sold that for 34.5k after 18mths and 38k miles which wasn't bad considering the miles I'd done.

I'm used to getting M3s at a good discount but when I was looking at the new one they wouldn't offer anything and it wasn't "all of that" so I decided to wait for the CP version which I believe they will release soon, good to note that they have started offering deals though.

I agree entirely. They aren't worth £65k. It's 10k too expensive and suffers very high depreciation. We will have to wait a bit longer but my feeling is the C63 is an excellent package and will show the M3 4 exhaust pipes in most conditions. The M5 is the same price too.

[Wills2]

Burwood said:

Wills2 said:

I got my first e92 in Dec 2008 for 38k a 1000 mile 3 month old car, they were giving them away due to the credit crunch, 7 months later I got 42k for it after 16k miles, the next one I got was 63k list and got it for 45k (brand new) sold that for 34.5k after 18mths and 38k miles which wasn't bad considering the miles I'd done.

I'm used to getting M3s at a good discount but when I was looking at the new one they wouldn't offer anything and it wasn't "all of that" so I decided to wait for the CP version which I believe they will release soon, good to note that they have started offering deals though.

I agree entirely. They aren't worth £65k. It's 10k too expensive and suffers very high depreciation. We will have to wait a bit longer but my feeling is the C63 is an excellent package and will show the M3 4 exhaust pipes in most conditions. The M5 is the same price too.

Interesting to note that Merc are offering 4.5% APR and Broadspeed are quoting 5k off the new C63 at the moment (those two together would make a decent deal)

I think the C63 might be the better bet it's still a V8 and now comes standard with an LSD (unlike before)

[JMBMWM5]

Wills2 said:

Interesting to note that Merc are offering 4.5% APR and Broadspeed are quoting 5k off the new C63 at the moment (those two together would make a decent deal)

I think the C63 might be the better bet it's still a V8 and now comes standard with an LSD (unlike before)

I think the new Merc AMG C63 will a good bet in "S" form.
But Litchfields have a tune and exhaust for the M4/M3 bringing the cars too 530BHP, now they will go well.


http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/326545-litchfield-autos...

Edited by JMBMWM5 on Sunday 11th January 10:09

[ZX10R NIN]

JMBMWM5 said:

I think the new Merc AMG C63 will a good bet in "S" form.
But Litchfields have a tune and exhaust for the M4/M3 bringing the cars too 530BHP, now they will go well.


http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/326545-litchfield-autos...

Edited by JMBMWM5 on Sunday 11th January 10:09

Interesting Litchfields don't half arse a car my mate 650 GT-R is testement to that & they know how to get a good exhaust note to so there's hope yet.

[bigtime]

ZX10R NIN said:

I got offered 17% on a basic one but with the spec my girlfriend was looking at she got offered 14% off I'm sure I could have haggled a bit more off but she ended up buying a Alpina

D3

Please can I ask who that is with. My spec is 63k list and the best deal I've been offered is 60k. If I can get 14% off that would be £54,180. I'll order one tomorrow if I could get that deal.

[bigtime]

Thanks mate. I'll contact these and where I bought my E92 M3 from and see what's what.