Discussion
craigjm said:
One of only two colours I think are the must haves with this car, the other is Yas Marina Blue
The problem I'm finding with Austin Yellow is that it looks amazing when clean but not so amazing when dirty - seems to lose it's glow! Maybe that applies to all cars. I think the blue is a bit pale/pastel for me but at least they are trying something different.We've had our M3 since early October.
Whilst at the very beginning I was quite rapt with it - the performance, the relatively decent mpg, the way it looked etc.
However, I now wouldn't particularly have one if it were my only car - it feels heavy (it is), the suspension can be very crashy even on comfort mode, and I don't find it particularly fun anymore.
(The noise, doesn't bother me in the slightest)
The wife quite likes it and to be fair, it's her daily drive.
The E92 Alpina D3 coupe we had before it was an overall better prospect, albeit slower, and we now need 4 doors.
I think having my time again I should've investigated the F80 Alpina D3 a bit more - although doing less than 10k miles a year, and having already had a myriad of derv BMW's, a petrol was at the top of the list.
Will keep this for 3 years, but won't be getting another.
Whilst at the very beginning I was quite rapt with it - the performance, the relatively decent mpg, the way it looked etc.
However, I now wouldn't particularly have one if it were my only car - it feels heavy (it is), the suspension can be very crashy even on comfort mode, and I don't find it particularly fun anymore.
(The noise, doesn't bother me in the slightest)
The wife quite likes it and to be fair, it's her daily drive.
The E92 Alpina D3 coupe we had before it was an overall better prospect, albeit slower, and we now need 4 doors.
I think having my time again I should've investigated the F80 Alpina D3 a bit more - although doing less than 10k miles a year, and having already had a myriad of derv BMW's, a petrol was at the top of the list.
Will keep this for 3 years, but won't be getting another.
ZX10R NIN said:
What are the quarter mile times & 0-100, in gear times are more important than 0-60
I don't really know where to look for official numbers but I've seen M4 and M5 quoted at about 12 seconds for quarter mile (M4 12.1 seconds, M5 11.9 seconds). That gets to 120mph plus, which doesn't seem very real world. Neither is it, by any stretch of the imagination "in a different league". Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for this astonishing M5 straight line supremacy evidence
CheesyFootballs said:
We've had our M3 since early October.
Whilst at the very beginning I was quite rapt with it - the performance, the relatively decent mpg, the way it looked etc.
However, I now wouldn't particularly have one if it were my only car - it feels heavy (it is), the suspension can be very crashy even on comfort mode, and I don't find it particularly fun anymore.
(The noise, doesn't bother me in the slightest)
The wife quite likes it and to be fair, it's her daily drive.
The E92 Alpina D3 coupe we had before it was an overall better prospect, albeit slower, and we now need 4 doors.
I think having my time again I should've investigated the F80 Alpina D3 a bit more - although doing less than 10k miles a year, and having already had a myriad of derv BMW's, a petrol was at the top of the list.
Will keep this for 3 years, but won't be getting another.
I agree on the suspension, I have actually noticed that my (M4)suspension doesn't feel great on 'Comfort'. I am still getting used to it though - to start with I didn't think the seat was comfortable now I think it's amazing.Whilst at the very beginning I was quite rapt with it - the performance, the relatively decent mpg, the way it looked etc.
However, I now wouldn't particularly have one if it were my only car - it feels heavy (it is), the suspension can be very crashy even on comfort mode, and I don't find it particularly fun anymore.
(The noise, doesn't bother me in the slightest)
The wife quite likes it and to be fair, it's her daily drive.
The E92 Alpina D3 coupe we had before it was an overall better prospect, albeit slower, and we now need 4 doors.
I think having my time again I should've investigated the F80 Alpina D3 a bit more - although doing less than 10k miles a year, and having already had a myriad of derv BMW's, a petrol was at the top of the list.
Will keep this for 3 years, but won't be getting another.
twingf said:
ZX10R NIN said:
What are the quarter mile times & 0-100, in gear times are more important than 0-60
I don't really know where to look for official numbers but I've seen M4 and M5 quoted at about 12 seconds for quarter mile (M4 12.1 seconds, M5 11.9 seconds). That gets to 120mph plus, which doesn't seem very real world. Neither is it, by any stretch of the imagination "in a different league". Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for this astonishing M5 straight line supremacy evidence
In gear times are the real important ones but they are hard to find
ZX10R NIN said:
I'm not saying the M5 is in a different league what I'm saying is that they are almost competing for the same market as a long term prospect I think the M5 is the better bet in terms of the fit & finish of the M5 compared to the M3/4
In gear times are the real important ones but they are hard to find
Sorry to misquote you, I was referring to a claim made in an earlier post (by someone else)!In gear times are the real important ones but they are hard to find
CheesyFootballs said:
We looked at the M5, but it just felt so bloody huge - especially as the wife is only 5' 2.
Had an E60 (?) 520d in 2007 and the M3 feels about the same size.
Same here on the M5 - I don't want/need a car that big and heavy! M4 was a no-brainer and the practicality is miles ahead of my 911.Had an E60 (?) 520d in 2007 and the M3 feels about the same size.
I'm liking the interior finish, the carbon bits look great.
twingf said:
Timbergiant said:
I love they way everyone seems compelled to tell the world how disappointed with a new car they are, seems to be a BMW M thing in particular.
Agree!Even on the BMW forums I keep reading that the new model of their car isn't as good looking, isn't as nice to drive or as fast. Countless years down the line when the newer version of their car has depreciated enough for them to afford it, suddenly the earlier comments have disappeared and this is the best car in the world.
Or the people who pretend they have gone along to test drive various cars in direct competition to the car they have just purchased. The actual truth is they either didn't bother, or went along with the wrong attitude just to pick fault not to like it.
There is also the people that test drive various expensive cars and end up with something for a fraction of the cost, roughly the same value as their previous cars.
I'm never quite sure what to believe half the time, but a lot of people do like to talk a lot of nonsense just to try and justify themselves, or belittle a brand they just don't like.
twingf said:
ZX10R NIN said:
What are the quarter mile times & 0-100, in gear times are more important than 0-60
I don't really know where to look for official numbers but I've seen M4 and M5 quoted at about 12 seconds for quarter mile (M4 12.1 seconds, M5 11.9 seconds). That gets to 120mph plus, which doesn't seem very real world. Neither is it, by any stretch of the imagination "in a different league". Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for this astonishing M5 straight line supremacy evidence
One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good!
Jazzer said:
If real world is all that matters, why not buy a Golf R?
One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good'
The Golf R isn't in the same league as the M4 and it wouldn't piss on them at all.One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good'
Top Gear magazine put the Golf R against the M3 down some tight twisty mountain road. The M3 was miles faster.
The Golf R is a good car, but too many people really do blow it way out of proportion to an incredible level.
Driver101 said:
Jazzer said:
If real world is all that matters, why not buy a Golf R?
One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good'
The Golf R isn't in the same league as the M4 and it wouldn't piss on them at all.One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good'
Top Gear magazine put the Golf R against the M3 down some tight twisty mountain road. The M3 was miles faster.
The Golf R is a good car, but too many people really do blow it way out of proportion to an incredible level.
The Golf R is almost Evo-quick down a back road and really is quite stunning.
I'd have one over an M4 (money no object) all day long.
But all this is getting away from the point I was trying to make...
Jazzer said:
Perhaps the fact that I drive an F10 M5 and Golf R on a daily basis just might give my opinion some credibility.
The Golf R is almost Evo-quick down a back road and really is quite stunning.
I'd have one over an M4 (money no object) all day long.
But all this is getting away from the point I was trying to make...
In all seriousness, what was your point? The Golf R is almost Evo-quick down a back road and really is quite stunning.
I'd have one over an M4 (money no object) all day long.
But all this is getting away from the point I was trying to make...
You said the Golf R would piss over the M4 in the real world when it doesn't at all. In many of the performance tests I've read about the Golf R, it has lost to many cars that are considered the same class or lower.
The tests I've seen with the Golf R against the M4, the M4 left it for dead on roads the R is supposed to excel. It feels like that when you drive it too. The M4 also looks much better, it feels much nicer, the M4 has more kudos than the R, and you also don't have the current stigma that the Golf has gained.
I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone would choose a Golf R over a M4 for anything other than money or extreme bias.
A lot of people were honest enough to admit the main reason for getting the Golf R was the very cheap lease deals.
Edited by Driver101 on Friday 2nd January 19:21
Jazzer said:
If real world is all that matters, why not buy a Golf R?
One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good!
Lovely stuff - biggest nonsense posted on this thread yet! Hilarious utter drivel. One of those would piss on both of them in many everyday circumstances!
The point being made here is that, when the road opens up and fun can be had, the M5 will just walk away from the M4.
This happens by design, BMW ensure that this is the case.
The M5 is better by some way, but good luck to the M4 crew.....it's all good!
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