E39 M5 Facelift question

[RichardM5]

Total loss said:

From the M5 portal VINs by Model Year (not calender year) http://www.m5portal.com/forum/e39m5_modelljahr.asp

M5 E39 RHD (DE92)
Model Year . VIN-series

1999 - BJ10000 - BJ10278
2000 - BJ10279 - BJ11266
2001 - BJ11267 - BJ11966
2002 - BJ11967 - BJ11999 + CB37000 - CB37487
2003 - CB37488 - CB37594

The actual changeover date between BJ and CB was 10/11 September 2001. There is a bit of an overlap as the cars were allocated numbers and then built, build time being slightly variable depending on options etc.

This is the daily production numbers chart for the RHD E39 M5, the first car was built on 23 October 1997, with a gap of almost a year until the 2nd car was built, and the last 2 on 28 May 2003.

[Total loss]

RichardM5 said:

There is a bit of an overlap as the cars were allocated numbers and then built, build time being slightly variable depending on options etc.

I have 2 E39 540's, vin No's only a couple apart, 1st one built early March, 2nd highly optioned/individual one built 9 weeks later in late May. Having worked in the car industry & knowing how long 'individual' options take to be supplied by outside suppliers (weeks/months), you only have to have a quality/damage issue with the parts, which then have to be made again, to have a very wide build gap between say consecutive vins.

[RichardM5]

Indeed, there are some VNS that are a month or more out of sequence, but in this case the latest BJ VIn is 11/9/2001 and the earliest CB VIN is 10/9/2001.I'm not sure exactly when the VIN is allocated to the chassis, it may be when they think they have all the parts ready to make the car, in which case the main variation will be simply the different assembly time unless a part is found to be faulty.

Generally the VINs most out of sequence are those that have Individual paint or interior.

[KrisP]

RichardM5 said:

OK, just checking the figures on full leather options. The 10 UK cars with M1SW was for UK cars that also have Active Seats, sorry for the confusion.

Figures for all full leather options for RHD cars are :

M1CR (Heritage Caramel) Total 31 UK 25
M1SW (Heritage Black) Total 63 UK 52
M1EG (Heritage English Green) Total 7 UK 5

O6IM (Nappa Point Imola Red) Total 7 UK 3
O6LB (Nappa Point LeMans Blue) Total 21 UK 20
O6SW (Nappa Point Black) Total 49 UK 45
O6SS (Nappa Point Silverstone) Total 77 UK 69

So, 255 total RHD, 219 of which were supplied to the UK and Ireland.

Currently the data is not available in this form on line. I've thought about doing it, just never got round to it. I'd probably have to reorganise the data to do it. The current database is pretty large as it contains images of most of the cars, some computer generated, some of the actual cars. The E39 RHD database is about 90Mb.

Brilliant data. Mine is one of the 52 M1SW not active seat cars, CB chassis from mid Nov 2002. I've also got load through on mine which was a nice bonus

[KrisP]

RichardM5 said:

I know the E39 M5 quite well!

...Climate Comfort screen...

I've never been able to find out exactly what this is - do you know, or can you explain please?

[RichardM5]

It's a windscreen that has a metallised layer as part of the laminate, this layer reflects Infra Red and helps keep the interior cool. They also have the side effect of blocking mobile phone, radar and GPS signals, so if you have one you often find that portable GPS devices don't work very well! You can tell if you have one by looking near the rear view mirror, there is a visible cut out in the metallised film behind it that goes around the rain sensor and then up to the roof for about the width of the mirror. You can see part of it here

[KrisP]

Thanks, I don't have one on mine, but the explanation was worth it nontheless

[nonuts]

To all the beards, anything interesting on the spec sheet for my one? BJ11525

I know it has the motorized rear blind which I think was an option, DSP (which I wish it didn't have now), side manual blinds on the rear and glass sunroof but I don't think anything else stands out as being rare, especially as it's silver.

[RichardM5]

As you say, nothing special, but a good decent spec M5.

Data for vehicle identification number: WBSDE92060BJ11525
Model description: M5
Market: Europa
Type: DE92
E-Code: E39
Chassis: Limousine
Steering: rechts
Doors: 4
Engine: S62 - 5,00l (294kW)
Drive: Heckantrieb
Transmission: manuell
Body Color: Titansilber Metallic (354)
Upholstery: Praegeleder/schwarz (O5SW)
Production date: 13.12.2000
Assembled in: Dingolfing

Code Serienausstattung Standard Equipment
S210A Dynamische-Stabilitäts-Control Dynamic stability control
S216A Servolenkung-Servotronic HYDRO STEERING-SERVOTRONIC
S249A Multifunktion für Lenkrad Multifunction f steering wheel
S302A Alarmanlage Alarm system
S423A Fussmatten Velours Floor mats, velours
S430A Innen-/Aussensp. mit Abblendautomatik Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S459A Sitzverstellung elektrisch mit Memory Seat adjuster, electric, with memory
S488A Lordosenstütze Fahrer u. Beifahrer Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A Sitzheizung Fahrer/Beifahrer Seat heating driver/passenger
S500A Scheinw.Rein.Anl./Intensivreinig. Headlight wipe/wash/Intensive cleaning
S520A Nebelscheinwerfer Fog lights
S522A Xenon-Licht Xenon Light
S534A Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning
S555A Bordcomputer V mit Fernbedienung On-board computer V with remote control
S710A M Lederlenkrad M leather steering wheel
S775A Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite
S785A Blinkleuchten weiss White direction indicator lights
S853A Sprachversion englisch Language version English
Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment
S265A Reifen Druck Control (RDC) Tyre pressure control (TPC)
S403A Glasdach elektrisch Glass roof, electrical
S416A Sonnenschutzrollo hinten/seitlich Roller sun vizor, rear lateral
S428A Warndreieck und Verbandstasche Warning triangle and first aid kit
S441A Raucherpaket Smoker package
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC)
S609A Navigationssystem Professional Navigation system Professional
S632A Vorbereitung BMW Handy (Motorola) Preparation BMW Handy (Motorola)
S672A CD-Wechsler 6-fach CD changer for 6 CDs
S677A HiFi System Professional DSP HiFi System Professional DSP
L812A Länderausführung England / Irland NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN
S850A Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export Additional Export tank filling
S863A Händlerverzeichnis Europa Retailer Directory Europe
S877A Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation
S880A Bordliteratur englisch On-board vehicle literature English
Code Information
S415A Sonnenschutzrollo hinten Sun-blind, rear
S473A Armlehne vorne Armrest front
S602A Bordmonitor mit TV On-board monitor with TV
S694A Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer

Don't pay much attention to what it says are options, many are standard in the UK, the real options are :

Side blinds
Rear blind
Glass sun roof (Metal or none were options, no cost I believe).
Nav + TV
Motorola phone
DSP
CD Changer

[4941cc]

RichardM5 said:

Glass sun roof (Metal or none were options, no cost I believe).

Standard equipment was steel sunroof, a no cost option to delete it.

[nonuts]

Thanks, pretty much what I thought, annoying thing is if I was looking now for my ideal spec it'd be without Nav and DSP so it's easier to upgrade the stereo etc. in stages. Oh and a colour that was less boring.

[RichardM5]

4941cc said:

RichardM5 said:

Glass sun roof (Metal or none were options, no cost I believe).

Standard equipment was steel sunroof, a no cost option to delete it.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say. The Glass sun roof was a cost option, Metal or none were the standard no cost options. I did not word it very well.

[RichardM5]

nonuts said:

Thanks, pretty much what I thought, annoying thing is if I was looking now for my ideal spec it'd be without Nav and DSP so it's easier to upgrade the stereo etc. in stages. Oh and a colour that was less boring.

You'll probably find that the Nav, TV and Phone were part of the Communications Pack, I'm not sure what it cost in 2001, but for my car in late 2002/early 2003 it was £3,095.00 and included Traffic Master system.

The Glass sun roof was a £90 option, the only cheaper option was the Graduated Tinted Windscreen at £70!

[Goatex]

I have a question for the options experts...seen some cars which have a knob in lieu of the front cupholders (shown in ad linked below). What is this for?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

[RichardM5]

That's the Traffic Master control knob and button.

The system was retrofitted in the UK, originally because the TMC system that's free in the rest of Europe requires a map disk with special codes on in the UK. The MK III Nav UK BMW map CD did not have these codes (other compatible CD's for the VDO Dayton Nav system do), but the later MK IV DVD's do have the codes.

If you have such as system it's best to remove it, they won't work now, it's a subscription based system, and the unit in the boot has a habit of failing which either takes down the Nav system (video is daisy chained Nav -> TV -> TM -> Monitor) or causes battery drain and flat batteries.

[Goatex]

RichardM5 said:

That's the Traffic Master control knob and button.

The system was retrofitted in the UK, originally because the TMC system that's free in the rest of Europe requires a map disk with special codes on in the UK. The MK III Nav UK BMW map CD did not have these codes (other compatible CD's for the VDO Dayton Nav system do), but the later MK IV DVD's do have the codes.

If you have such as system it's best to remove it, they won't work now, it's a subscription based system, and the unit in the boot has a habit of failing which either takes down the Nav system (video is daisy chained Nav -> TV -> TM -> Monitor) or causes battery drain and flat batteries.

Thanks for that info - I have the Mk 3 CD Nav in my Sept 2001 car but not the traffic master knob & button

[RichardM5]

Do you have a phone and TV?

[2stis]

Interesting info on this thread. Does anyone know what this one means? S877A
Entfall Überkreuzbedienung Delete cross-pattern operation

[Goatex]

RichardM5 said:

Do you have a phone and TV?

Yes - my car's option list shows 0609 Navigation System with TV and 0630 Cordless GSM Telephone.
The car has BMW Universal Bluetooth installed so I'm assuming a previous owner upgraded at at later date - there is a snap in oddment tray in the front armrest, rather than a phone/housing

[RichardM5]

Goatex said:

Yes - my car's option list shows 0609 Navigation System with TV and 0630 Cordless GSM Telephone.
The car has BMW Universal Bluetooth installed so I'm assuming a previous owner upgraded at at later date - there is a snap in oddment tray in the front armrest, rather than a phone/housing

Maybe the previous owner removed the Traffic Master system too.