M Roadsters

M Roadsters

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Easy_Targa

463 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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It had to happen. There were only 900 or so right hand drive MRoadsters made and there are about 500 left.
Then look at how many threads there are here lamenting the fact that there are no good E36 M3's to be had anymore for peanuts. All roadsters have the evo engine (only 75 cars with the E46 M3 lump) and you can see that the MR was a performance bargain........... Last year.
Got mine for £7k last May but have not seen any offered for sale for less than £10k recently. One did go on EBay last week for £10,600 in an auction. Some Walter Mitty type had one on Autotrader for £40k!! It's come right down since but is still well over a realistic value.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

247 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Nice one last week went for twenty six grand at auction, so yes values have leapt up.

jonah35

3,940 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Qe, low rates, asset prices rising.

They should go up more, the market hasn't cottoned on yet.

£7k lastbyear was crazy cheap.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I guess they are following the M coupe but lagging behind. Lovely cars!

evojam

560 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Always really liked these,as an Evo owner the thought of the same engine in a lighter bodyshell is really quite appealingdriving

Beedub

1,954 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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z4m roadsters are going the same way.... low mile low owner cars are selling for very good money!!! pleased to be in mine and it will not be going ANYWHERE.

billywhizzzzzz

1,989 posts

142 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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The Z4M prices seem pretty stable at mid-teens, or up to £17k for a very low mileage one, and although a lot of people say they will rise, don't think they will much, as more than that you're into 997 911 territory.

I think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought

Philrose

473 posts

241 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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The production data


CK91 (ECE-spec S50, LHD): 3,557 produced from 09/96 through 06/2000
CK92, (ECE-spec (S50, RHD): 918 produced from 11/97 through 06/2000
CK93 (NA-spec S52, LHD): 8,938 produced from 02/98 through 07/2000
CL91 (ECE-spec S54, LHD): 271 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002
CL92 (ECE-spec S54, RHD): 73 produced from 02/2001 through 04/2002
CL93 (NA-spec S54, LHD): 1,565 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002


jonah35

3,940 posts

156 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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billywhizzzzzz said:
The Z4M prices seem pretty stable at mid-teens, or up to £17k for a very low mileage one, and although a lot of people say they will rise, don't think they will much, as more than that you're into 997 911 territory.

I think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought
It's not about what is better though

A 458 italia is better than a low mile Testarossa but the testarossa is more,

billywhizzzzzz

1,989 posts

142 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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yes but a Z3 and Z4 M are closer in spirt than those 2 ferraris - and in the same vein as you of course an early 911 is much more than a new one, but not better. But a Z4M is, well, just better, and nicer than a Z3 and there's no real reason to want a Z3 except that they're cheaper!

Beedub

1,954 posts

225 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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either way, coupe or roadster, if you have a low mile, low owner car your in a very very good position, keep enjoy and watch the price continue to rise! i Will be doing just that, I'm nearly 8 years into my ownership and their is very little 10 years on that competes as a package or thrills like these cars, they are a sure fire classic. if you take a look in the roadster section their are VERY few low mile low owner cars available, infact very few good roadsters for sale in the z4mr section, its occupied by coupes. I can see the dealers are pushing the prices up across the board on this car but i hope they don't push too hard and all this backfires!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...



Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 10:21


Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 23:22

Philrose

473 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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billywhizzzzzz said:
yes but a Z3 and Z4 M are closer in spirt than those 2 ferraris - and in the same vein as you of course an early 911 is much more than a new one, but not better. But a Z4M is, well, just better, and nicer than a Z3 and there's no real reason to want a Z3 except that they're cheaper!
It's all a matter of opinion if looks are taken into account. I have never liked the look of the Z4 but love the retro styling of the Z3. So for me the M Roadster is what I prefer.

lord trumpton

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7,321 posts

125 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Beedub said:
either way, coupe or roadster, if you have a low mile, low owner car your in a very very good position, keep enjoy and watch the price continue to rise! i Will be doing just that, I'm nearly 8 years into my ownership and their is very much 10 years on that competes as a package or thrills like these cars, they are a sure fire classic. if you take a look in the roadster section their are VERY few low mile low owner cars available, infact very few good roadster for sale, its occupied by coupes. I can see the dealers are pushing the prices up across the board on this car but i hope they don't push too hard and all this backfires!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...



Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 10:21
Nice but hardly a 'once in a lifetime opportunity'


Beedub

1,954 posts

225 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...


Values looking pretty stout on the roadsters too... The z4m in either guise is appreciating for sure.

shantybeater

1,192 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Sold my S54 M roadster for £10,500 (53k on the clock) about two years ago - Absolutely mint, bit gutted as its worth a substantial amount now. My only solace being my brother bought my s50 off me beforehand and is still clinging on to it - glad someone did well from the rise.

I expect Z4M prices will rise but I completely disagree the Z3M will remain cheaper, yes the handling is more ancient but there were a number of reasons I chose mine over a Z4M - for starters the look of the Z3M is just so outragious. This coupled with the smaller production numbers I expect will see the Z3M a good margin ahead of the Z4M in the future. It will be interesting (and possibly heartbreaking) to see what happens to the values of the remaining 70~ S54's




Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 17th March 11:47

Beedub

1,954 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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how much is a good z3m roadster now days!

MEC

2,604 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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There was a nice looking 48K Dakar Yellow one on Autotrader a couple of weeks ago up at £14995 and it sold in a couple of days!

Johnb850

111 posts

170 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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shantybeater said:
This coupled with the smaller production numbers I expect will see the Z3M a good margin ahead of the Z4M in the future. It will be interesting (and possibly heartbreaking) to see what happens to the values of the remaining 70~ S54's
Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 17th March 11:47
Just to quell a common misconception.

Z4M's are rarer than Z3M's

Worldwide and RHD build numbers for Z3M's exceed those for Z4M's.

In RHD there was 1977 Z3M's versus 1973 Z4M's. (Figures include Coupes and Roadsters sourced from BMW M Registry) Worldwide numbers favour the Z3 even more due to the american S52 version which was built in what seems huge numbers.



shantybeater

1,192 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Johnb850 said:
Just to quell a common misconception.

Z4M's are rarer than Z3M's

Worldwide and RHD build numbers for Z3M's exceed those for Z4M's.

In RHD there was 1977 Z3M's versus 1973 Z4M's. (Figures include Coupes and Roadsters sourced from BMW M Registry) Worldwide numbers favour the Z3 even more due to the american S52 version which was built in what seems huge numbers.
So what are the UK figures? This is what will affect the UK market

olliete

403 posts

110 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Add to which, there are fewer Z3M's left now due to the lack of traction control on the S50.

There may have been similar production numbers but the reality is <500 Z3M's around in the UK now.