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It had to happen. There were only 900 or so right hand drive MRoadsters made and there are about 500 left.
Then look at how many threads there are here lamenting the fact that there are no good E36 M3's to be had anymore for peanuts. All roadsters have the evo engine (only 75 cars with the E46 M3 lump) and you can see that the MR was a performance bargain........... Last year.
Got mine for £7k last May but have not seen any offered for sale for less than £10k recently. One did go on EBay last week for £10,600 in an auction. Some Walter Mitty type had one on Autotrader for £40k!! It's come right down since but is still well over a realistic value.
Then look at how many threads there are here lamenting the fact that there are no good E36 M3's to be had anymore for peanuts. All roadsters have the evo engine (only 75 cars with the E46 M3 lump) and you can see that the MR was a performance bargain........... Last year.
Got mine for £7k last May but have not seen any offered for sale for less than £10k recently. One did go on EBay last week for £10,600 in an auction. Some Walter Mitty type had one on Autotrader for £40k!! It's come right down since but is still well over a realistic value.
The Z4M prices seem pretty stable at mid-teens, or up to £17k for a very low mileage one, and although a lot of people say they will rise, don't think they will much, as more than that you're into 997 911 territory.
I think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought
I think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought
The production data
CK91 (ECE-spec S50, LHD): 3,557 produced from 09/96 through 06/2000
CK92, (ECE-spec (S50, RHD): 918 produced from 11/97 through 06/2000
CK93 (NA-spec S52, LHD): 8,938 produced from 02/98 through 07/2000
CL91 (ECE-spec S54, LHD): 271 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002
CL92 (ECE-spec S54, RHD): 73 produced from 02/2001 through 04/2002
CL93 (NA-spec S54, LHD): 1,565 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002
CK91 (ECE-spec S50, LHD): 3,557 produced from 09/96 through 06/2000
CK92, (ECE-spec (S50, RHD): 918 produced from 11/97 through 06/2000
CK93 (NA-spec S52, LHD): 8,938 produced from 02/98 through 07/2000
CL91 (ECE-spec S54, LHD): 271 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002
CL92 (ECE-spec S54, RHD): 73 produced from 02/2001 through 04/2002
CL93 (NA-spec S54, LHD): 1,565 produced from 02/2001 through 05/2002
billywhizzzzzz said:
The Z4M prices seem pretty stable at mid-teens, or up to £17k for a very low mileage one, and although a lot of people say they will rise, don't think they will much, as more than that you're into 997 911 territory.
I think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought
It's not about what is better thoughI think the Z4M is much better in every way than the Z3 M Roadster, so the Z3 will always be about 4k or 5k less than the Z4 I'd have thought
A 458 italia is better than a low mile Testarossa but the testarossa is more,
either way, coupe or roadster, if you have a low mile, low owner car your in a very very good position, keep enjoy and watch the price continue to rise! i Will be doing just that, I'm nearly 8 years into my ownership and their is very little 10 years on that competes as a package or thrills like these cars, they are a sure fire classic. if you take a look in the roadster section their are VERY few low mile low owner cars available, infact very few good roadsters for sale in the z4mr section, its occupied by coupes. I can see the dealers are pushing the prices up across the board on this car but i hope they don't push too hard and all this backfires!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 10:21
Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 23:22
billywhizzzzzz said:
yes but a Z3 and Z4 M are closer in spirt than those 2 ferraris - and in the same vein as you of course an early 911 is much more than a new one, but not better. But a Z4M is, well, just better, and nicer than a Z3 and there's no real reason to want a Z3 except that they're cheaper!
It's all a matter of opinion if looks are taken into account. I have never liked the look of the Z4 but love the retro styling of the Z3. So for me the M Roadster is what I prefer. Beedub said:
either way, coupe or roadster, if you have a low mile, low owner car your in a very very good position, keep enjoy and watch the price continue to rise! i Will be doing just that, I'm nearly 8 years into my ownership and their is very much 10 years on that competes as a package or thrills like these cars, they are a sure fire classic. if you take a look in the roadster section their are VERY few low mile low owner cars available, infact very few good roadster for sale, its occupied by coupes. I can see the dealers are pushing the prices up across the board on this car but i hope they don't push too hard and all this backfires!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Nice but hardly a 'once in a lifetime opportunity' http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Edited by Beedub on Saturday 7th March 10:21
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Values looking pretty stout on the roadsters too... The z4m in either guise is appreciating for sure.
Values looking pretty stout on the roadsters too... The z4m in either guise is appreciating for sure.
Sold my S54 M roadster for £10,500 (53k on the clock) about two years ago - Absolutely mint, bit gutted as its worth a substantial amount now. My only solace being my brother bought my s50 off me beforehand and is still clinging on to it - glad someone did well from the rise.
I expect Z4M prices will rise but I completely disagree the Z3M will remain cheaper, yes the handling is more ancient but there were a number of reasons I chose mine over a Z4M - for starters the look of the Z3M is just so outragious. This coupled with the smaller production numbers I expect will see the Z3M a good margin ahead of the Z4M in the future. It will be interesting (and possibly heartbreaking) to see what happens to the values of the remaining 70~ S54's
I expect Z4M prices will rise but I completely disagree the Z3M will remain cheaper, yes the handling is more ancient but there were a number of reasons I chose mine over a Z4M - for starters the look of the Z3M is just so outragious. This coupled with the smaller production numbers I expect will see the Z3M a good margin ahead of the Z4M in the future. It will be interesting (and possibly heartbreaking) to see what happens to the values of the remaining 70~ S54's
Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 17th March 11:47
shantybeater said:
This coupled with the smaller production numbers I expect will see the Z3M a good margin ahead of the Z4M in the future. It will be interesting (and possibly heartbreaking) to see what happens to the values of the remaining 70~ S54's
Just to quell a common misconception.Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 17th March 11:47
Z4M's are rarer than Z3M's
Worldwide and RHD build numbers for Z3M's exceed those for Z4M's.
In RHD there was 1977 Z3M's versus 1973 Z4M's. (Figures include Coupes and Roadsters sourced from BMW M Registry) Worldwide numbers favour the Z3 even more due to the american S52 version which was built in what seems huge numbers.
Johnb850 said:
Just to quell a common misconception.
Z4M's are rarer than Z3M's
Worldwide and RHD build numbers for Z3M's exceed those for Z4M's.
In RHD there was 1977 Z3M's versus 1973 Z4M's. (Figures include Coupes and Roadsters sourced from BMW M Registry) Worldwide numbers favour the Z3 even more due to the american S52 version which was built in what seems huge numbers.
So what are the UK figures? This is what will affect the UK marketZ4M's are rarer than Z3M's
Worldwide and RHD build numbers for Z3M's exceed those for Z4M's.
In RHD there was 1977 Z3M's versus 1973 Z4M's. (Figures include Coupes and Roadsters sourced from BMW M Registry) Worldwide numbers favour the Z3 even more due to the american S52 version which was built in what seems huge numbers.
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