F10 M5 £2.6K bill

F10 M5 £2.6K bill

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HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
Looks about right then price wise.

That Q7 is more expensive than my M5's

Hohoho .. will do it
I'd be interested in their response!

The last pads I had (on a 997) I asked the garage to keep and show me the wear they were notifying me of - to be fair they were correct but we're an easy target yes

theboss

6,910 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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HoHoHo said:
Jonny TVR said:
Looks about right then price wise.

That Q7 is more expensive than my M5's

Hohoho .. will do it
I'd be interested in their response!

The last pads I had (on a 997) I asked the garage to keep and show me the wear they were notifying me of - to be fair they were correct but we're an easy target yes
I think its a good call... like anyone else here it's the last thing in the world (with tyres) I'd ever 'quibble' over but I think its all too easy for the dealers. As one of you said above, its telling that they will approve lathe treatment for AUC cars but not customer services!

GregorFuk

563 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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JCHill said:
Jonny TVR said:
JCHill said:
I don't believe in using brakes... rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7Dif3FH2w
I can see that now!!
To be fair I do live a mile from the M1 and work a mile from the M1 (40 miles apart) so my daily brake usage is ridiculously light but I was surprised the rears needed replacing before the fronts...but I'm not complaining...and the dealership did warn me 6 months before that they were getting close so it wasn't a shock.

What surprises me about yours is disc replacement at that kind of mileage. Unless they originally fitted pads made of granite, or the discs were warped, I wouldn't expect disc replacement so soon.
A lot of modern stability control systems are working the back brakes without the driver even perceiving it's happening. These modern systems give the rear brakes a much tougher workout than traditional 'dumb' systems. That could account for the exaggerated wear rate.

Jonny TVR

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4,533 posts

281 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I've checked and the front disc replacement isn't unusual for the level of use.

Shaoxter

4,069 posts

124 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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GregorFuk said:
A lot of modern stability control systems are working the back brakes without the driver even perceiving it's happening. These modern systems give the rear brakes a much tougher workout than traditional 'dumb' systems. That could account for the exaggerated wear rate.
Good point.
Solution - turn it off wink

JCHill

159 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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GregorFuk said:
JCHill said:
Jonny TVR said:
JCHill said:
I don't believe in using brakes... rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7Dif3FH2w
I can see that now!!
To be fair I do live a mile from the M1 and work a mile from the M1 (40 miles apart) so my daily brake usage is ridiculously light but I was surprised the rears needed replacing before the fronts...but I'm not complaining...and the dealership did warn me 6 months before that they were getting close so it wasn't a shock.

What surprises me about yours is disc replacement at that kind of mileage. Unless they originally fitted pads made of granite, or the discs were warped, I wouldn't expect disc replacement so soon.
A lot of modern stability control systems are working the back brakes without the driver even perceiving it's happening. These modern systems give the rear brakes a much tougher workout than traditional 'dumb' systems. That could account for the exaggerated wear rate.
That never occurred to me! Explains that then... wink

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Shaoxter said:
Good point.
Solution - turn it off wink
Correct. My car's covered 10k miles & the rears (according to the puter) have 4200 miles left with the fronts having 4900 miles left. back in the day it was often 2 sets of fronts to 1 set of rears.

Got some Pagid RS29's en route from the US at £540 for a full set, so these will be going on after i kill my current pads at Donington in a couple of weeks.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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W8PMC said:
Shaoxter said:
Good point.
Solution - turn it off wink
Correct. My car's covered 10k miles & the rears (according to the puter) have 4200 miles left with the fronts having 4900 miles left. back in the day it was often 2 sets of fronts to 1 set of rears.

Got some Pagid RS29's en route from the US at £540 for a full set, so these will be going on after i kill my current pads at Donington in a couple of weeks.
Ah, but as I mentioned my computer was suggesting something similar and when the car was in this week Vines suggested it was 24 months ahead of itself and having looked at the rear pads there is still a load of pad left. My mileage would be almost identical to yours at 16k when you 'apparently' need new pads.

I'm now back to 24,000 miles on front and rears.

What's going on scratchchin

j80jpw

826 posts

162 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I had a 56 plate 325 that was in for a service at a BMW main dealer, I got an advisory call from the service department saying it would need new front discs, I said fine but can you please keep the old ones for me to look at.

Amazingly when I went to pick it up they said on closer inspection it would appear they don't need doing yet. I did another 40k and sold the car without them needing changed.

I expect, as with any other business these days they have targets to hit, several brake disk changes per month will undoubtedly help!


Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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j80jpw said:
I had a 56 plate 325 that was in for a service at a BMW main dealer, I got an advisory call from the service department saying it would need new front discs, I said fine but can you please keep the old ones for me to look at.

Amazingly when I went to pick it up they said on closer inspection it would appear they don't need doing yet. I did another 40k and sold the car without them needing changed.

I expect, as with any other business these days they have targets to hit, several brake disk changes per month will undoubtedly help!
This. I had Porsche tell me I needed new discs and pads at the 48k service on my 911. £2k+

At the 60k and 72k services the same discs and pads got a clean bill of health.

I sold it at 91k.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Sometimes dealers are worse than back street mechanics.

I rememeber my old boss got a call from Audi saying his daughter's A3 needed new shock absorbers changing due to leaking fluid (not gas filled on this model). Turned out they sprayed WD40 on them to make it appear as though that was the shockwe fluid and thought he wasnt wise to their tricks.


johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Soov535 said:
j80jpw said:
I had a 56 plate 325 that was in for a service at a BMW main dealer, I got an advisory call from the service department saying it would need new front discs, I said fine but can you please keep the old ones for me to look at.

Amazingly when I went to pick it up they said on closer inspection it would appear they don't need doing yet. I did another 40k and sold the car without them needing changed.

I expect, as with any other business these days they have targets to hit, several brake disk changes per month will undoubtedly help!
This. I had Porsche tell me I needed new discs and pads at the 48k service on my 911. £2k+

At the 60k and 72k services the same discs and pads got a clean bill of health.

I sold it at 91k.
Totally this. I would have asked what the disc thickness was on all four discs and compared that to the manufacturer's minimum thickness.

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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HoHoHo said:
Ah, but as I mentioned my computer was suggesting something similar and when the car was in this week Vines suggested it was 24 months ahead of itself and having looked at the rear pads there is still a load of pad left. My mileage would be almost identical to yours at 16k when you 'apparently' need new pads.

I'm now back to 24,000 miles on front and rears.

What's going on scratchchin
Will see how mine look after Donington, but i want these Pagids on in time for Spasmile

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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theboss said:
crazy about cars said:
As a comparison new front discs and pads on my Q7 cost £1600 @ 30,000 miles at Audi including labour.
I just did the same for my X5 (E70 40d) at 40k miles and it was just under £800! I wonder how the components compare.
Labour was around 2-300 from memory so around £600 per corner. The brakes on Q7 is mahoosive though, good stopping power smile

Wills2

22,782 posts

175 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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The rotors on the M5 are simply huge 400mm all round IIRC.

Keep in mind that's a 20" wheel.





Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 5th March 19:23

-Z-

6,011 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Anyone know the actual minimums for the disc thicknesses?

Easy to check with a micrometer screw gauge.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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E60 M5 disc minimum thickness was 22.4mm from memory. They were 374mm so with these at 400mm I am guessing around 23-25mm.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Hmm, veryexpeniverley..

Patrick Bateman

12,173 posts

174 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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e39 minimum thickness is 30.6mm for fronts...

W8PMC

3,345 posts

238 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Wills2 said:
The rotors on the M5 are simply huge 400mm all round IIRC.

Keep in mind that's a 20" wheel.





Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 5th March 19:23
They look even bigger behind the 19" wheelsmile