F10 M5 £2.6K bill

F10 M5 £2.6K bill

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Jonny TVR

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4,533 posts

280 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I'm on 34K miles and its needed 2 front discs and pads front and back. Then a service. Bill came to £2.6K. Bit of a surprise but I suppose its an expensive car so .. but why do the discs only last 34K miles?!

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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That's an outrageous price.

Shaoxter

4,048 posts

123 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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How long do you expect brake discs to last?
Also if you didn't bring your own parts and just accepted their markup, of course it's gonna be a massive bill. I'm assuming the service included spark plugs as well?

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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My E60 needed rear discs at about four years old. I was unhappy!

forest172

687 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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crikey that`d make my eyes water, whats first service cost 12k/2 year?

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Wow...holy cow that is steep.

Retail is about £2000

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M5-F10-Front-Rear-Br...


drmark

4,792 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Porsche similar. Easy to save over £1k at a Porsche indy for same work (and the OE parts had Porsche part nos on - just the boxes were different).
But I guess your warranty means you have to pay dealer prices. I would have haggled at least 10% off that though.
Next time...

theboss

6,878 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Is that £2.6k just for the brakes above and beyond the scope of a Service Inclusive package, or is that the bill for everything?

I did notice Service Inclusive 'Plus' is a whopping £4.7k instead of £1k and the only extra items are brake disks/pads and windscreen wiper blades - suggesting brakes are not cheap.

Anyone gone through a set of ceramics yet?

Jonny TVR

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4,533 posts

280 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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The discs were £800 (parts) for the pair. The car is 15 months old. The dealer said that the discs need replacing every other time the pads needed replacing which seems strange too.

theboss

6,878 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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If the discs were 'only' £800 what's the remaining £1800 for? Would be intrigued to see a breakdown.

34k is good going in 15 months, for one of these cars!

TheHound

1,759 posts

121 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I would have definitely bought the service pack when you bought the car, it would have saved you a bit at least on the servicing element of that bill.


In regard to the discs, they do seem to have worn pretty quickly. I imagine given your mileage that most of your driving was Motorway/DC so would have expected them to last quite a bit longer.


JCHill

159 posts

145 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I'm just about to hit 60,000 miles.

Original discs front and rear and still on the original pads on the front.

Recently had rear pads changed though (56,000 miles) with the vast majority of my journeys being motorway mileages.

j80jpw

824 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
The discs were £800 (parts) for the pair. The car is 15 months old. The dealer said that the discs need replacing every other time the pads needed replacing which seems strange too.
I'd love to see the old discs they took off to see if they really needed replacing! Had you noticed a lip on them at all, did they make you aware they were doing them or did you find out when you saw the bill?

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Not sure you can use it on these discs but I have heard of people using a brake lathe on their brake discs and fitting new pads on.

Its an 'old world' solution (using latest technology) but at £25 per corner you can save hundreds of pounds.

I see you can buy TEXTAR brake pads from Eurocarparts now both front and rear. Wont be long before ATE and Zimmerman introduce discs too.

j80jpw

824 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
Not sure you can use it on these discs but I have heard of people using a brake lathe on their brake discs and fitting new pads on.

Much like using an angle grinder to take off the lip, as I did when I was a skint at 18 and the proud owner of a Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit!!

Wills2

22,663 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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How much was the service element? I didn't take the service pack with mine and I'm thinking I should have.

Anyone know how much the running in service is?


Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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j80jpw said:
Much like using an angle grinder to take off the lip, as I did when I was a skint at 18 and the proud owner of a Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit!!
It's a cheap solution, yes but not a bandaid solution. 


Braking skimming is a Porsche approved service. Most Porsche dealers have the device in the workshop. Even my local Sandal BMW have such a device, as do Stratstone Mercedes and the Toyota garages down the road. The technology has come on a long way since the 1980s. The latest Pro-Cut lathe measures a run out tolerance to 0.001mm meaning a near perfect flat surface.



And obviously if it exceeds the minimum thickness the service is pointless but then, most people do have the faculties to work that out. The thickness is usually laser engraved somewhere on the brake disc and any competent mechanic will point it out.

I wouldnt discount it entirely.

BobSaunders

3,027 posts

154 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Talk about an unexpected cost - was none of it covered under the free servicing warranty?

Mine are on 10% at 21.6k miles (according to BMW dealership). Upside is by the time it needs the new pads (hopefully) they will be cheaper.

Trying to sell mine at the moment and posts like this make me want to sell it a bit quicker...

Wills2

22,663 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
Braking skimming is a Porsche approved service. Most Porsche dealers have the device in the workshop. Even my local Sandal BMW have such a device, as do Stratstone Mercedes and the Toyota garages down the road. The technology has come on a long way since the 1980s. The latest Pro-Cut lathe measures a run out tolerance to 0.001mm meaning a near perfect flat surface.
I'm quite surprised to be honest I've had 4 M cars and one 911 and I've never been offered this option, in fact I'm flabbergasted that an OPC would do this, they always wanted to change my disks never skim them.

Which OPC skimmed your disks?


HoHoHo

14,979 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I've just had my first proper service at 16000 miles.

I was quite surprised at the following:

Rear brake pads required at £247 inc fitting and vat. I questioned the cost and was offered a further 10% but also expressed my surprise at the fact I needed them.

I was told when I handed the car key to the service chap to his surprise I also needed new plugs and at which point the service chap scratched his head and wandered off for 5 minutes. He came back and told me the car was ahead of itself by 2 years and I didn't need the plugs......good news.

I called later in the day and I was told the rear pads didn't need changing, they had a load of pad left and I ended up paying for the first proper oil service at around £300 (to include whatever else they do)

The computer now suggests rear brake pads at 25000 miles and fronts shortly before.

Fair play to Vines Gatwick!