Booked subframe inspection with Snows, quick question!

Booked subframe inspection with Snows, quick question!

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robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Hi guys,

My 2005 (Nov registered) Convertible has just been booked in for the subframe to be checked next month for cracks. The lady on the phone said BMW don't have a 10yr warranty on the subframe but theyw ill check it free of charge and simply supply the findings to BMW and it's BMW who will give the final say on whether they will do any work needed under "goodwill" or not based on the car meeting certain criteria (maintenance, mileage, condition etc).

Is that correct? Everything I've read online points to a 10yr warranty so why they are saying there isn't a subframe warranty is puzzling.

Needless to say.my car has 70k miles now and has FSH and is near mint so I have confidence in this at least.

Cheers!

Edited by robbiekhan on Monday 8th June 13:29

Panthro

682 posts

218 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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They will try and get out of it if they can by saying that the car hasn't been serviced at the correct intervals etc. However they can't use this on the sub frame because AFAIK no where in any of the service criteria is a sub frame check listed.

robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Panthro said:
They will try and get out of it if they can by saying that the car hasn't been serviced at the correct intervals etc. However they can't use this on the sub frame because AFAIK no where in any of the service criteria is a sub frame check listed.
Ah excellent thanks! I'm sure they will say what they can to not accept. Looking on cutters, it seems around 80 have been accepted, 8 or so rejected and various unknowns.

Panthro

682 posts

218 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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robbiekhan said:
Panthro said:
They will try and get out of it if they can by saying that the car hasn't been serviced at the correct intervals etc. However they can't use this on the sub frame because AFAIK no where in any of the service criteria is a sub frame check listed.
Ah excellent thanks! I'm sure they will say what they can to not accept. Looking on cutters, it seems around 80 have been accepted, 8 or so rejected and various unknowns.
Hopefully you'll get the all clear. I'm not 100% sure on what they do for minor cracking i.e. replace the sub frame or resin inject. I do know that resin injection is the only fix they offer, bar a full sub frame replacement.

If you do get the all clear and want peace of mind, I highly recommend getting someone like ETA to reinforce the sub frame with their welded plates. It costs around £500 and worth every penny IMO.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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They do cover the 10 years as I was in there recently having mine checked.

However, anything outside the 10 years and they will say No!!

I understand anything under 20mm will be a foam injection, over 20mm is a new floor. People have concerns regarding the foam injection because if it gets worse then it cannot be welded as the foam is flammable!

Let us know how you get on.

robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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I shall keep you guys updated thanks for the infos! MOT and subframe check on the same day. What a joy filled day tongue out

darreni

3,788 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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There is no 10 year warranty, BMW do the subframe under "goodwill".

robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Update!

Subframe inspected by Snows Portsmouth, no cracks smile

I suppose my near future option now is whether to pre-empt future cracking and get the ETA plates installed for around £500 or however much they charge?

Cemesis

771 posts

162 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Do a lot of research. I've seen video's showing massive holes in the floor which were apparently caused by the reinforcing plates preventing the floor from flexing and instead, tearing.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Cemesis said:
Do a lot of research. I've seen video's showing massive holes in the floor which were apparently caused by the reinforcing plates preventing the floor from flexing and instead, tearing.
Please post these as I have not seen anything to suggest the fixes being made cause problems, quite the contrary.

robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Interested in seeing those too! On the flipside I've read nothing but praise for ETA's installation!

Wideblue

21 posts

125 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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There are a couple of lengthy threads on Cutters about this which I presume you've read, all I would say is if Snows aren't on the recommended list you might want a second opinion from a trusted dealer or indy.

Mine was checked by a main dealer just before I bought it and given the all clear. Long story short, the floor was indeed cracked and they missed it. The issue was spotted by an Indy, then confirmed and repaired under goodwill by North Oxford without fuss just before the 10 years was up. Both garages said the problem would definitely have been there at the time of previous dealer's inspection.

Not trying to scaremonger, just don't want you to miss out on a BMW repair if it's justified. The invoice for the work done to mine was £3800 ex VAT!

robbiekhan

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1,466 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Wideblue said:
There are a couple of lengthy threads on Cutters about this which I presume you've read, all I would say is if Snows aren't on the recommended list you might want a second opinion from a trusted dealer or indy.

Mine was checked by a main dealer just before I bought it and given the all clear. Long story short, the floor was indeed cracked and they missed it. The issue was spotted by an Indy, then confirmed and repaired under goodwill by North Oxford without fuss just before the 10 years was up. Both garages said the problem would definitely have been there at the time of previous dealer's inspection.

Not trying to scaremonger, just don't want you to miss out on a BMW repair if it's justified. The invoice for the work done to mine was £3800 ex VAT!
Oh wow that's quite a good shout then. Do you happen to know which thread the recommended list was on? I'm just trying to search for it now.

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I will contact ETA tomorrow and book in a check up with them,. they are almost 2 hours away from me though, but at least this will provide ultimate peace of mind.

Edited by robbiekhan on Tuesday 7th July 22:30