v10 M5 for under £10k ...

v10 M5 for under £10k ...

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jcolley

183 posts

126 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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e46m3c said:
What else would need addressing for this milage? Happy to chance ancillaries and bushes and brakes and what not.

But if we into the realms of internal engine bearsings wearing out, oil pumps, waterpumper, crankand cam bearings and seals etc it might be a big waste of money / continiously faulting.

Do fancy a cheap v10 and dont mine putting in some spanner time but there is a limit.

Compression test / piston rings and valve seals?
- Compression test is a good start. Getting yourself a working installation of BMW's INPA software is essential for self-diagnosis/maintenance. Use it to disable the injectors for the compression test or simply pull fuse F30 in the glovebox *and* F72 in the boot for the two fuel pumps. Also, INPA has a "combustion quality" monitoring page which can be quite useful. The numbers themselves are rather useless, but to see all 10 cylinders bar graphs averaging well together is a healthy sign.

- Injectors have been problematic on a few engines, someone found a deal recently for around $40/pc and changed all 10. When they fail, the tend to fail open, hydrolock is possible on the starter afterwards. While you're in doing compression, pick up/rent a cheap boroscope camera and inspect the cylinder walls and piston crown, look for scoring, etc.

- Main bearings historically have given very little if any problems.

- Valve springs are occasional failures, but again compression or combustion quality test will reveal that.

- Water pump is (the usual BMW) garbage plastic vaned pump. Cheap to replace when it goes, pain in the arse to get to.

- Main oil pumps no real issues aside from the asinine decision to drive if via chain from the VANOS pump. If the VANOS pump seizes...

- Front and rear main seals are occasional leakers, nothing difficult about replacing them.

- throttle Actuators. It's a given, they fail. When the first episode occurs, replace the gears. If you let it continue to error and reset, the electronic control will fry.

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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The e39 water pump has a metal impeller, seems odd to make a plastic one for the e60.

e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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What would be the minimum to do if purchased then? Regarding engine/gearbox. Preventative.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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e46m3c said:
What would be the minimum to do if purchased then? Regarding engine/gearbox. Preventative.
Bare minimum would be engine oil change using TWS 10w60 engine oil. If you ca 't get that then use 10w60 Titanium. They no longer make Edge 10w60. It takes 9.3 litres. Eurocarparts have good deals on regularly.

I would go further and change the diff oil, and get an SMG service done too.

And if you're feeling more thrifty, change clutch, flywheel, position sensor and transmission fluid for total peace of mind re the transmission.

I have a spare OEM clutch position sensor if you want to buy it from me.

e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Ok Cool.

I would do a full service anyway.

Im thinking id rather go for a 70k one for another 4k. 100k less miles for 4k sounds reasonable.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Best way.

Try and get one under 60k miles and FSH and you can warranty it for £100 per month rather than £200 per month.


Terminator X

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15,080 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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e46m3c said:
Ok Cool.

I would do a full service anyway.

Im thinking id rather go for a 70k one for another 4k. 100k less miles for 4k sounds reasonable.
70k miles for £14k purchase price?! Lead the way my friend and we'll all follow wink

TX.

andymc

7,353 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Terminator X said:
e46m3c said:
Ok Cool.

I would do a full service anyway.

Im thinking id rather go for a 70k one for another 4k. 100k less miles for 4k sounds reasonable.
70k miles for £14k purchase price?! Lead the way my friend and we'll all follow wink

TX.
no such car i think

mycool

267 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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I managed a 45k one for under £16k a year ago but prices seem to have bottomed out or even risen touch since then.
However, I have had a clutch failure and replacement to fund since so more like a near £18k car in my eyes now frown

cosworth330

1,300 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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I bought a 51k mile one 2yrs ago with new clutch & fly already done. it was still covered under AUC when I bought it it had 6 months to run. Put it on the Mondial monthly when the AUC ran out, its never been any trouble. Its got the £5k full leather dash etc, active seats, tv,blinds,logic 7,voice control. Its on 57k now, always garaged. I would say its worth the same or slightly more than I paid 2 yrs ago, infact a trader that deals in M3's only had a quick look over it and said it was worth 18k all day long. I know when it goes over 60k it will take a drop of a few grand overnight.

e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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here is one for 14k?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

not read the description tho so might be bent for all i know lol.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Generally I would tend to stay away from modified cars. They tend to get hammered more than the standard looking fare from my experience.


Terminator X

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15,080 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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e46m3c said:
here is one for 14k?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

not read the description tho so might be bent for all i know lol.
Scam? Seems too cheap to me. Click on dealer website and see what happens wink

TX.

cosworth330

1,300 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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e46m3c said:
here is one for 14k?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

not read the description tho so might be bent for all i know lol.
That looks like a right crapper !

andymc

7,353 posts

207 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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cosworth330 said:
e46m3c said:
here is one for 14k?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

not read the description tho so might be bent for all i know lol.
That looks like a right crapper !
Heads up indeed

pvogue

633 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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andymc said:
cosworth330 said:
e46m3c said:
here is one for 14k?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

not read the description tho so might be bent for all i know lol.
That looks like a right crapper !
Heads up indeed
That amount of interior shine puts me off! Gross, aswell as the tinted junk!

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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It would not cost a lot of money to put that car back to 'original' spec. Remove the tints, get the wheels refurbed and repainted and change the exhaust tips to standard looking ones.


MuZiZZle

680 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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it looks like he's applied Meguiars tyre gel to the intire car, inside and out!

tomtom

4,225 posts

230 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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That's never done 57,000 miles...

MuZiZZle

680 posts

190 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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tomtom said:
That's never done 57,000 miles...
57k of McDonalds carpark burnouts