X6M - why so unpopular?
Discussion
russy01 said:
I think its cool because its a car with 567hp.
All you knobs going on about Directors this, pointless that, tailgating this, no load space that, ruining M badge this......get over it.
Its a fricking fast car with a honking great big Turbo V8...if thats not enough to get you a little bit excited then frankly I think you belong over on mumsnet.
Op - if I had 100k to spend, I doubt Id sink it into an X6M, as I prefer the X5M. But if I were in the position to purchase such a car, then I seriously would consider either or (Maybe pick up a used model for substantially less in 6months time?). The typical RR's are great, but to drive they are dull as dishwater. If you can have nearly the same limo experience and also have sports car killing performance then as a PH'er I think you would be stupid not to consider it.
As for the naysayers on here, just ignore them. I think they should relish the fact that BMW are stuffing a Turbo V8 into a SUV - when a lot of other manufacturers are solely farting about with AA batteries in the boot and 1.6tdi's with ecoflaps and slippery paint... truth is, they probably moan about that to...
...so as this thread is about the X6M.... and you'd not have one either....your point is a little lost as no-one here is suggesting 'honking'(?) great V8s in SUVs is a bad thing.All you knobs going on about Directors this, pointless that, tailgating this, no load space that, ruining M badge this......get over it.
Its a fricking fast car with a honking great big Turbo V8...if thats not enough to get you a little bit excited then frankly I think you belong over on mumsnet.
Op - if I had 100k to spend, I doubt Id sink it into an X6M, as I prefer the X5M. But if I were in the position to purchase such a car, then I seriously would consider either or (Maybe pick up a used model for substantially less in 6months time?). The typical RR's are great, but to drive they are dull as dishwater. If you can have nearly the same limo experience and also have sports car killing performance then as a PH'er I think you would be stupid not to consider it.
As for the naysayers on here, just ignore them. I think they should relish the fact that BMW are stuffing a Turbo V8 into a SUV - when a lot of other manufacturers are solely farting about with AA batteries in the boot and 1.6tdi's with ecoflaps and slippery paint... truth is, they probably moan about that to...
W8PMC said:
Yes they're quicker than those who are not in the know would expect, but the only chance an X5/6M would have of beating an F10 M5 would be a standing start on snow.
If i was looking at this sector i'd run a mile from the X5/6M as i (personally) see them as pointless, however the X5M50D is a whole other proposition as is on paper as quick as the M variant, does far better MPG & has more usable performance with the torque in the right place. I had one for 6 weeks & it was a proper giggle motor.
A shade over 8 seconds round the ring is pretty impressive I think - http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2015-bmw-x6-m-ma... which is only 10-15 seconds behind the M5 time. I repeat I would not swap my M5 for one in a million years, but they are still seriously fast by any objective measure.If i was looking at this sector i'd run a mile from the X5/6M as i (personally) see them as pointless, however the X5M50D is a whole other proposition as is on paper as quick as the M variant, does far better MPG & has more usable performance with the torque in the right place. I had one for 6 weeks & it was a proper giggle motor.
The 50d variant is probably the better all round proposition for most people, sure, but I can't see how its any more useable or superior to the M version (save for running costs) when its torque and power delivery characteristics are actually broadly similar to the V8TT if you were chop the upper 2000rpm from its power band (with the +200bhp peak power advantage it provides).
Reminds me of when I was running in my F10 and considered it to effectively comparable to a remapped 535d in torque and power delivery terms (short shifting at 5000rpm), albeit with a much better soundtrack and using twice as much fuel.
russy01 said:
I think its cool because its a car with 567hp.
All you knobs going on about Directors this, pointless that, tailgating this, no load space that, ruining M badge this......get over it.
Its a fricking fast car with a honking great big Turbo V8...if thats not enough to get you a little bit excited then frankly I think you belong over on mumsnet.
Op - if I had 100k to spend, I doubt Id sink it into an X6M, as I prefer the X5M. But if I were in the position to purchase such a car, then I seriously would consider either or (Maybe pick up a used model for substantially less in 6months time?). The typical RR's are great, but to drive they are dull as dishwater. If you can have nearly the same limo experience and also have sports car killing performance then as a PH'er I think you would be stupid not to consider it.
As for the naysayers on here, just ignore them. I think they should relish the fact that BMW are stuffing a Turbo V8 into a SUV - when a lot of other manufacturers are solely farting about with AA batteries in the boot and 1.6tdi's with ecoflaps and slippery paint... truth is, they probably moan about that to...
I doubt the X6M drives any better than the RRS SVR? That's where my money would go if I wanted a 4x4 monster. A neighbour has one and the noise it makes is incredible. I think that 5 litre SC V8 has to be one of the best sounding production car notes at the minute?!All you knobs going on about Directors this, pointless that, tailgating this, no load space that, ruining M badge this......get over it.
Its a fricking fast car with a honking great big Turbo V8...if thats not enough to get you a little bit excited then frankly I think you belong over on mumsnet.
Op - if I had 100k to spend, I doubt Id sink it into an X6M, as I prefer the X5M. But if I were in the position to purchase such a car, then I seriously would consider either or (Maybe pick up a used model for substantially less in 6months time?). The typical RR's are great, but to drive they are dull as dishwater. If you can have nearly the same limo experience and also have sports car killing performance then as a PH'er I think you would be stupid not to consider it.
As for the naysayers on here, just ignore them. I think they should relish the fact that BMW are stuffing a Turbo V8 into a SUV - when a lot of other manufacturers are solely farting about with AA batteries in the boot and 1.6tdi's with ecoflaps and slippery paint... truth is, they probably moan about that to...
theboss said:
A shade over 8 seconds round the ring is pretty impressive I think - http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2015-bmw-x6-m-ma... which is only 10-15 seconds behind the M5 time. I repeat I would not swap my M5 for one in a million years, but they are still seriously fast by any objective measure.
The 50d variant is probably the better all round proposition for most people, sure, but I can't see how its any more useable or superior to the M version (save for running costs) when its torque and power delivery characteristics are actually broadly similar to the V8TT if you were chop the upper 2000rpm from its power band (with the +200bhp peak power advantage it provides).
Reminds me of when I was running in my F10 and considered it to effectively comparable to a remapped 535d in torque and power delivery terms (short shifting at 5000rpm), albeit with a much better soundtrack and using twice as much fuel.
I didn't realise the X6M was that much quicker than the X5M, but is a shame really when the X5M will no doubt be the more popular buy.The 50d variant is probably the better all round proposition for most people, sure, but I can't see how its any more useable or superior to the M version (save for running costs) when its torque and power delivery characteristics are actually broadly similar to the V8TT if you were chop the upper 2000rpm from its power band (with the +200bhp peak power advantage it provides).
Reminds me of when I was running in my F10 and considered it to effectively comparable to a remapped 535d in torque and power delivery terms (short shifting at 5000rpm), albeit with a much better soundtrack and using twice as much fuel.
Am surprised at that Ring time & the pessimist in me thinks BMW have worked the car in question as having driven X5's i'd not be approaching, taking or exiting corners in an X5 at anywhere near the speeds required to get close to 8mins. Also can't in a month of Sundays see it being quicker than the Pork or RR, but it clearly is a rapid house.
I didn't say the M50D was superior, just the more attractive proposition being virtually as quick, twice as economical & probably about £20k cheaper. Also more of a sleeper which i've always been a fan of.
I'd have the X5 over the X6. My dad drives a new 40d X5 and it's wonderful car in my opinion. Suits him because due to osteoarthritis in hips but now he's had both replaced i imagine he'll get back into something that doesn't need the ride height.
Don't see much of a point to an X6 though, they don't even have 5 seats!
Don't see much of a point to an X6 though, they don't even have 5 seats!
I have an X6M sitting on my drive at the moment, as a mate of my wifes has left here whilst returning to the UK. They said I could use it if needed, so will take a drive at the weekend and see what it is like.
I think is a X6M anyway. I don't want to be that person that claims to have a M3 when it is 3.0d MSport. It is a 5.0L V8, and has an M on the badge. Is it a X6M?
I think is a X6M anyway. I don't want to be that person that claims to have a M3 when it is 3.0d MSport. It is a 5.0L V8, and has an M on the badge. Is it a X6M?
W12GT said:
I have noticed how hated the X6M is on here (in fact in general the X6 seems to be disliked by most people). But why?
I know they are big and not the prettiest of cars; but this is of course subjective and everyone has different tastes as to what is or isn't good looking.
The reason I ask this because I drove one today. OMG what a car. It really does seem to defy the forces of nature. Unbelievable levels of grip. Unbelievable acceleration. Superb brakes. Suspension for me is spot on as the car felt taught and totally responsive to the inputs I gave it regardless of the road type.
I'm looking for a fun family car and have been looking at the Maserati GT- S, new Continental GT but now I'm thinking the X6M is exactly what I am looking for for our weekends away.
It is a damn big car though but then so are the others.
The fact it is such a stupidly powerful car somehow makes it über cool to me:- am I going through a mid life crisis?
I sold mine, just too big, hard to park anywhere, f***ing Tank.I know they are big and not the prettiest of cars; but this is of course subjective and everyone has different tastes as to what is or isn't good looking.
The reason I ask this because I drove one today. OMG what a car. It really does seem to defy the forces of nature. Unbelievable levels of grip. Unbelievable acceleration. Superb brakes. Suspension for me is spot on as the car felt taught and totally responsive to the inputs I gave it regardless of the road type.
I'm looking for a fun family car and have been looking at the Maserati GT- S, new Continental GT but now I'm thinking the X6M is exactly what I am looking for for our weekends away.
It is a damn big car though but then so are the others.
The fact it is such a stupidly powerful car somehow makes it über cool to me:- am I going through a mid life crisis?
The wife would not drive it.
If you live in London good luck parking it.
It performed ok but the M6 GC CP eats it.
AB said:
I thought they were a 4.4
If it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Correct, there is the "xDrive50i" with ~400bhp and the M version with ~550bhpIf it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Both are based on the same 4.4l V8 engine denoted N63 and S63 (the 'M' tuned version)
It should be fairly obvious which one it is.
theboss said:
AB said:
I thought they were a 4.4
If it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Correct, there is the "xDrive50i" with ~400bhp and the M version with ~550bhpIf it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Both are based on the same 4.4l V8 engine denoted N63 and S63 (the 'M' tuned version)
It should be fairly obvious which one it is.
Fats25 said:
theboss said:
AB said:
I thought they were a 4.4
If it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Correct, there is the "xDrive50i" with ~400bhp and the M version with ~550bhpIf it says X Drive50 then it's that and not an X5M but I don't know enough about them to know it for certain.
Both are based on the same 4.4l V8 engine denoted N63 and S63 (the 'M' tuned version)
It should be fairly obvious which one it is.
JMBMWM5 said:
sold mine, just too big, hard to park anywhere, f***ing Tank.
The wife would not drive it.
If you live in London good luck parking it.
It performed ok but the M6 GC CP eats it.
This doesn't make sense... you moan about it being too big to park but replace it with an even longer car with worse visibility ?The wife would not drive it.
If you live in London good luck parking it.
It performed ok but the M6 GC CP eats it.
The zillions of women driving SUV's in central London seem to get on just fine btw, including, my wife who finds driving and parking her Cayenne in London much easier than my (much smaller and lower) 911
ZeroH said:
This doesn't make sense... you moan about it being too big to park but replace it with an even longer car with worse visibility ?
The zillions of women driving SUV's in central London seem to get on just fine btw, including, my wife who finds driving and parking her Cayenne in London much easier than my (much smaller and lower) 911
Visibility is NOT a problem with the M6 and it may be longer but is NARROWER than the X6M and X5M.The zillions of women driving SUV's in central London seem to get on just fine btw, including, my wife who finds driving and parking her Cayenne in London much easier than my (much smaller and lower) 911
Check the width of the X5M too the X6M and you will see the difference between just those to cars, Cayenne!!! never driven one.
The X6M is 3.54" WIDER than the M6 that's a lot IMO.
EDIT: by the way the Cayenne is 1939mm wide the X6M is 1989mm wide, while the M6 is 1899mm wide just for reference.
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Wednesday 29th July 08:38
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Wednesday 29th July 08:42
JMBMWM5 said:
isibility is NOT a problem with the M6 and it may be longer but is NARROWER than the X6M and X5M.
Check the width of the X5M too the X6M and you will see the difference between just those to cars, Cayenne!!! never driven one.
The X6M is 3.54" WIDER than the M6 that's a lot IMO.
EDIT: by the way the Cayenne is 1939mm wide the X6M is 1989mm wide, while the M6 is 1899mm wide just for reference.
You specifically highlight parking as an issue for your x6 but replace it with an even longer car.... parking in London = parallel parking = length >> problem than width !Check the width of the X5M too the X6M and you will see the difference between just those to cars, Cayenne!!! never driven one.
The X6M is 3.54" WIDER than the M6 that's a lot IMO.
EDIT: by the way the Cayenne is 1939mm wide the X6M is 1989mm wide, while the M6 is 1899mm wide just for reference.
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Wednesday 29th July 08:38
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Wednesday 29th July 08:42
Have driven x5m f85 and e70 in london... had no more difficulty than my narrower cayenne so still cant understand your complaint.
Anyway, not really the point of the thread so wont continue taking it off topic.
Cheib said:
The problem I and a lot of other people have is the M badge. Never understood the X6 in any form.....
Quite. I was going to make a thread on this but now don't need to. I don't understand it, just seems to be a pointlessly large vehicle in an odd shape with its sole purpose to show others that you have money. Is it 4wd? I'm far from a hater, I just don't get it. ZeroH said:
You specifically highlight parking as an issue for your x6 but replace it with an even longer car.... parking in London = parallel parking = length >> problem than width !
Have driven x5m f85 and e70 in london... had no more difficulty than my narrower cayenne so still cant understand your complaint.
Anyway, not really the point of the thread so wont continue taking it off topic.
Many parking places in London are "Width limited" the white line depicting where you must be "inside", these are a problem for me anyway and IF you are parked over that line your nicked end off.Have driven x5m f85 and e70 in london... had no more difficulty than my narrower cayenne so still cant understand your complaint.
Anyway, not really the point of the thread so wont continue taking it off topic.
Anyway the OP probably could care less and does not live in an area with parking being tight.
i get them, and really like them.
You'd buy an X5m for the same reason one would buy an SVR over a standard SDV6 Range rover..etc.
I saw the X6m at Geneva (will edit at home with a pic) and it looks fantastic in person...I believe its one of those cars that's just not very photogenic lol. It looks incredibly menacing from up front..rear room didn't look great considering the size of the car but most people who are attracted by the X6 probably aren't bothered. a Panamera is an absolute behemoth of a car yet only seats 4 with a reasonable boot (considering the size of the car), same story with a 5 door A5. there are other perfectly good alternatives to both that can do the same job, if not better, but its all down to who the car attracts and what they want from it. An M5 may be better in most scenarios but they don't offer the high up driving position that an X would, which id assume would sway a lot of buyers especially If they've previously owned a 4x4of some sort. A 4x4, with an M5 engine (well, even more powerful than) will suit the petrolheads dream who also likes that high up position? and having four wheels driven instead of two?
one thing I cant work out 'what for' is the X5 M50D. My boss has a brand new one, triple turbo diesel V6, 386bhp and 500lbft of torque. he said its absolutely crap on diesel which just makes me think...whats the point of an outrageous diesel engine like that ( as magnificent as It may be) and why not go for the whole hog X5m seeing as fuel costs probably aren't that different in the real world? Why would someone buy the M50D over the petrol alternative?
You'd buy an X5m for the same reason one would buy an SVR over a standard SDV6 Range rover..etc.
I saw the X6m at Geneva (will edit at home with a pic) and it looks fantastic in person...I believe its one of those cars that's just not very photogenic lol. It looks incredibly menacing from up front..rear room didn't look great considering the size of the car but most people who are attracted by the X6 probably aren't bothered. a Panamera is an absolute behemoth of a car yet only seats 4 with a reasonable boot (considering the size of the car), same story with a 5 door A5. there are other perfectly good alternatives to both that can do the same job, if not better, but its all down to who the car attracts and what they want from it. An M5 may be better in most scenarios but they don't offer the high up driving position that an X would, which id assume would sway a lot of buyers especially If they've previously owned a 4x4of some sort. A 4x4, with an M5 engine (well, even more powerful than) will suit the petrolheads dream who also likes that high up position? and having four wheels driven instead of two?
one thing I cant work out 'what for' is the X5 M50D. My boss has a brand new one, triple turbo diesel V6, 386bhp and 500lbft of torque. he said its absolutely crap on diesel which just makes me think...whats the point of an outrageous diesel engine like that ( as magnificent as It may be) and why not go for the whole hog X5m seeing as fuel costs probably aren't that different in the real world? Why would someone buy the M50D over the petrol alternative?
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