30 Jahre M5s

30 Jahre M5s

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Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Evening M-Power!

I've been thinking about my next move after the F10 and, to get to the point, I'm really struggling.

The new M5 is due, I'm told, towards the tail end of 2017, so sticking with my car till then would be smart.

Another M5 would be daft, offering nothing over what I have.

However, my petrolhead has had me wondering about the anniversary edition, which looks stunning in the flesh.

But £110K for a two-owner car.. who in their right mind, outwith truly wealthy types, would go for that?

I asked for a couple of quotes for one on sale or return (has been for some time).....frankly laughable.

Does anyone on here have one?

I'd happily lose up to £13K a year on one if I could get in and out safely.... am I nuts?

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Yes! That is insane. At least post a link to the car you're talking about so we can see what the fuss is about! wink

After the M5 - what about a B5S or an E63 ? All barmy overpowered large cars..

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Here is the kind of thing I'm referring to.....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

CSLchappie

436 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Jazzer said:
Here is the kind of thing I'm referring to.....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
That's been sat in their showroom for months now, lovely looking car but I don't see any reason why it won't follow a similar pricing trend in the long term to the 25 year edition. Is the M6GC +CP not a decent compromise between the two?

Is the next M5 really due that soon? The new five isn't due till 2017 and the M version usually follows about 20-24 months later.

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Yes, I thought that too, but this is what Elms told me....

JMBMWM5

2,284 posts

198 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Jazzer said:
Evening M-Power!

I've been thinking about my next move after the F10 and, to get to the point, I'm really struggling.

The new M5 is due, I'm told, towards the tail end of 2017, so sticking with my car till then would be smart.

Another M5 would be daft, offering nothing over what I have.

However, my petrolhead has had me wondering about the anniversary edition, which looks stunning in the flesh.

But £110K for a two-owner car.. who in their right mind, outwith truly wealthy types, would go for that?

I asked for a couple of quotes for one on sale or return (has been for some time).....frankly laughable.

Does anyone on here have one?

I'd happily lose up to £13K a year on one if I could get in and out safely.... am I nuts?
ELMS Cambridge are a real joke when it comes to prices, I saw that car ages ago in there, when ELMS was giving me an estimate for a new M6 GC CP ( which frankly was laughable), they will not sell that at that price.
I will not be dealing with them any time soon.

rassi

2,453 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Frankly, you would be out of your mind, if you were to drop 110K on a 30 Jahre version.

By all means, pick up a nice LCI, but to add another 40K would be madness, IMHO.

That is AMG GT territory, or a lightly used 991 Turbo.

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Nice car - but not worth all that extra, you *will* be hosed come resale time.

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Similar situation for me and I too was gobsmacked by the asking price of the Jahre.

My shortlist for the moment for November change is:

997 gen 2 Turbo S - not sure as really want the 991. 997 is looking a bit dated. Amazing power though.
Maserati Granturismo - gorgeous sound, heritage, good rear seats, stunning looks, average performance
M6 GC - has everything but it will be my fourth BMW on the trot (noticed they are selling new ones at £71K in classifieds .. more than the usual 20% off list).

Need at least small seats in the back.



Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Maybe I didn't make myself clear....

I'm not remotely suggesting buying one outright, that would be plain ridiculous.

I was seeing if there might be some kind of PCP deal to be done, where you know upfront the degree of shafting, with a guaranteed exit at the end.

The premium for one of these is ridiculous.

Elms are clearly not competitive price-wise and I don't just mean this car (which I believe they're selling for a customer).

They told me, for instance, I had no equity in my car, while others quoted anything from £3K to £6K.....so quite a difference.

The car in question will of course not sell any time soon and it may do the rounds in an effort to punt it somewhere else.

I'll probably get another F10 to tide me over till the new M5.

911 turbos are not my thing....point and hold

on.....brake....turn.....repeat.....very dull to drive!??

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Gotcha - I'd assume they'd run against the projected book for the M5, as it wont have it's own distinct category, so the upfront will be very big to cover it.

If a 911 Turbo doesnt take your fancy, what about an E63 / B5S ?

theboss

6,913 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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If you were to PCP you'd probably be getting stuffed for interest versus the available 0% deals on a new order of the regular car, only serving to widen the price difference.

I don't know how you lease guys can bear to part with them after 2 years - I'm getting attached to mine!

ashway

532 posts

165 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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there was one at Lloyd Newcastle for approx 80K a couple of weeks ago

toon10

6,183 posts

157 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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ashway said:
there was one at Lloyd Newcastle for approx 80K a couple of weeks ago
I was in there last week. Closer to £90k if I recall but still a far bit less than the other one.

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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theboss said:
If you were to PCP you'd probably be getting stuffed for interest versus the available 0% deals on a new order of the regular car, only serving to widen the price difference.

I don't know how you lease guys can bear to part with them after 2 years - I'm getting attached to mine!
I was hoping that, given the difficulty in shifting them, that incentives/deals could be offered, even though they are not new cars.

The way I see it....better to get say a grand a month now for say two or three years, than sit on a car that will not sell......looks bad/slightly embarrassing for dealers....hence the reason such cars are often hidden away.

These cars haemorrhage money, so minimising the depreciation is all that any owner (private or individual) can attempt to do.

Skrambles

1,310 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Jazzer said:
Another M5 would be daft, offering nothing over what I have.
Surely this. I wouldn't pay to change to another f10 - the enhancements offered by the other 'editions' are too marginal.

I can't see any of these cars holding any value; it's just not what m5s do!






theboss

6,913 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Skrambles said:
Jazzer said:
Another M5 would be daft, offering nothing over what I have.
Surely this. I wouldn't pay to change to another f10 - the enhancements offered by the other 'editions' are too marginal.

I can't see any of these cars holding any value; it's just not what m5s do!
I'm just piling miles on mine. Figured I'd rather write off the whole cost (more or less) by putting 200k miles on the clock with a grin in my face, and keeping it forever, than 2/3rds of its cost putting a restrained 32k miles on it over 4 years and worrying every moment about its future trade-in value.

Jazzer

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1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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theboss said:
I'm just piling miles on mine. Figured I'd rather write off the whole cost (more or less) by putting 200k miles on the clock with a grin in my face, and keeping it forever, than 2/3rds of its cost putting a restrained 32k miles on it over 4 years and worrying every moment about its future trade-in value.
Brilliant reply, I love this.....a man with a plan!!

JMBMWM5

2,284 posts

198 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I was looking to change again at October time TILL i had some PX prices offered, feck me I will not be raped, I am keeping mine for at least another year or until someone offers sensible money.

Skrambles

1,310 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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theboss said:
I'm just piling miles on mine. Figured I'd rather write off the whole cost (more or less) by putting 200k miles on the clock with a grin in my face, and keeping it forever, than 2/3rds of its cost putting a restrained 32k miles on it over 4 years and worrying every moment about its future trade-in value.
Yep, totally agree. It's a keeper.