What's The F10 M5 Like To Live With Real-world ?
Discussion
I'm not sure my neighbours agree....The Livster said:
Mine is Silverstone, 18 months old and still as good as new
Mine's Silverstone too, 4 years and 45k miles old and still almost good as new. The driver's seat bolster is showing a few small cracks but less obvious than they are on black seats (where the cracks can be really white). I do find I have to clean a blue tinge off the seats from time to time (lots of denim wearers in my household) but that's 2 mins with some leather cleaner. Harder wearing that you might think plus, it looks the absolute t*ts
The Livster said:
RWD cossie wil said:
Still looking for a nice CP LCI car with black M function seats, can't believe how many have white/ cream interiors, really not a fan of light interiors as they get old/dirty/tatty so quickly...
Mine is Silverstone, 18 months old and still as good as newskeeterm5 said:
Hi all,
what are owners seeing in terms of life expectancy for brakes, disks and pads?
S
They are done when they're done depending on driving style if that bothers you I wouldn't bother getting one TBH. what are owners seeing in terms of life expectancy for brakes, disks and pads?
S
Mine were in good condition after 32k but others would have eaten through them in 20k.
Wills2 said:
They are done when they're done depending on driving style if that bothers you I wouldn't bother getting one TBH.
Mine were in good condition after 32k but others would have eaten through them in 20k.
Just hit 50k on mine and am still on factory discs and front pads - just had rear pads changed by dealer who measured the discs and thought they should last the same again.Mine were in good condition after 32k but others would have eaten through them in 20k.
What sort of deal do you think I would be able to get on a pre-registered brand new M5? There are a few in the BMW AUC between 60-50k, comp pack etc, but with the new 5 series on the way, perhaps there is a deal to be had?
Never used BMW main dealers before, so unsure how open to negotiation they are..... man maths is saying I might as well spend 10k extra for an effectively brand new car, instead of 40-45 for the spec I want with 20-30k miles on?
No doubt I will take a bit of a bath on the depreciation, but looking at a 5-6 year ownership so may be worth it?
Never used BMW main dealers before, so unsure how open to negotiation they are..... man maths is saying I might as well spend 10k extra for an effectively brand new car, instead of 40-45 for the spec I want with 20-30k miles on?
No doubt I will take a bit of a bath on the depreciation, but looking at a 5-6 year ownership so may be worth it?
TheAngryDog said:
Is the new m5 likely to affect values of the f10?
I'm looking to sell my e39 and run something else for 12 months and then look to get into an lci f10 as I'll have been able to save up a fair old chunk of cash for one by then.
No differently to when the E34 M5 came out or the E39 against the E34 or the E60 against the E39 I'm looking to sell my e39 and run something else for 12 months and then look to get into an lci f10 as I'll have been able to save up a fair old chunk of cash for one by then.
The more modern a model of M5 it is the more that have been produced so any "classic" potential gets diluted somewhat / highly unlikely the F10 will ever be a classic/heck even the E60 or even the E39 purely based on volumes produced.
I've just traded my M5 in, had it for 18 months and not that sorry to see it go to be honest. It's not a bad car, the dealer service has been great and the car has been faultless.
The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
spudgun08 said:
I've just traded my M5 in, had it for 18 months and not that sorry to see it go to be honest. It's not a bad car, the dealer service has been great and the car has been faultless.
The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
F10 size is big and driving B roads I drive it very slowly - girth generally seen as a good thing in this islnstance it is not. The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
I recall the RS6 pulling away hard and fast it was brutal so sure footed, very fast cornering too wouldn't even get a hint of a back end wiggle yet the F10 certainly can get unsettled - just like any M car "easy to drift"
spudgun08 said:
I've just traded my M5 in, had it for 18 months and not that sorry to see it go to be honest. It's not a bad car, the dealer service has been great and the car has been faultless.
The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
I agree on many points, I got bored with mine and sold it, traction issues, big wide car,ect. The main issues for me were...
1. Traction. Too many times, at busy roundabouts, junctions etc, the car would wheel spin as I tried to pull away, traction control would kick in, and leave me paused momentarily in front of oncoming traffic. My c63, m3,m6 or xfr never did this.
The car really needs four wheel drive in my opinion, it just couldn't get the power down unless in perfect conditions. I don't consider myself a bad driver, but not much point in a powerful car that just can't let you use it.
2. The size. It's huge. I've had big cars before, they kinda shrink around me, this one never did, and unless it's on a motorway, it's a pain, especially on narrow lanes. Even minor things like parking in an Ncp is a mare, because if other cars don't give you a wide berth, you can have a right problem actually opening the doors to get in, happened more than once.
3. The looks. I like understated, but this car is truly anonymous, the e60 had something about it, this one doesn't.
4. Steering wheel and seat misaligned. I found myself driving skewed, almost like I was holding the steering wheel slightly to the right of me, very odd.
5. Buy a comp pack car, mine wasn't and the engine noise is pretty dull, I drove a comp pack car and it sounded much better.
6. The seats. I had the comfort seats, and the base was fine, but the backrest caused endless fidgeting as something wasn't actually that comfortable about it.
7. For such a massive car externally, interior space, particularly the rear, was poor imho. Also I had extended leather, and the seam on the driver console near my left knee would dig in evertyime I went round a corner quickly, poor design.
There were other things, but those were the main ones. If I was to buy again, which I wouldn't, I would definitely go for a comp pack car,. Sorry to offer a negative view of the car, but after owning numerous M cars in the past, this is without doubt the most disappointing. Felt like driving a high power , heavy, diesel. It never thrilled me, I won't miss it.
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