What's The F10 M5 Like To Live With Real-world ?
Discussion
Joscal said:
Ah you have the 19”s I’ve read they are far better for ride and handling, might be the difference?
Possibly, although I stick the dampers in the sport mode most of the time which is generally similar to the difference in firmness between 19 and 20. When I’ve had 20’s on mine I leave it in comfort.I suppose for a driver with 20’s the 19’s in comparison would feel like having a “comfort plus” setting.
Some say traction is better with the 19.
The higher sidewall offers some protection. I’ve destroyed a 20 on a pothole but this has never happened to my 19’s.
theboss said:
Possibly, although I stick the dampers in the sport mode most of the time which is generally similar to the difference in firmness between 19 and 20. When I’ve had 20’s on mine I leave it in comfort.
I suppose for a driver with 20’s the 19’s in comparison would feel like having a “comfort plus” setting.
Some say traction is better with the 19.
The higher sidewall offers some protection. I’ve destroyed a 20 on a pothole but this has never happened to my 19’s.
You need sidewalks like you had in the Mk4 Golf GT TDI PD 115 bop if you’d after comfort from tyres. I suppose for a driver with 20’s the 19’s in comparison would feel like having a “comfort plus” setting.
Some say traction is better with the 19.
The higher sidewall offers some protection. I’ve destroyed a 20 on a pothole but this has never happened to my 19’s.
theboss said:
jm doc said:
Well I use mine as a high performance daily and been across Europe twice in it already and it's the best M5 I have had in the 20 or so years of ownership.
In the 40k miles I did in an F10, it was almost impossible to accelerate in normal conditions without the TC light flashing away, that's despite the frequently needed fresh Michelins on the rear.
And why would you ever buy an RS3 "just to show Golf R and SQ5 drivers up" Bizarre.
The point above about “destroying” anything else on a wet roundabout - the F90 party trick that the RWD car can’t pull off. In the 40k miles I did in an F10, it was almost impossible to accelerate in normal conditions without the TC light flashing away, that's despite the frequently needed fresh Michelins on the rear.
And why would you ever buy an RS3 "just to show Golf R and SQ5 drivers up" Bizarre.
I’m still scratching my head because I use full throttle in my car all the time without traction issues. Are you talking about 0-30? F10 will always scrabble for traction from a standing start (stating the obvious) but once it’s hooked up it’s fine. How I ever managed with 750bhp and 0-100 in 6.5s for all those miles without incident, I’ll never know.
My F90 simply sits on its haunches and goes like a scalded cat and in 9000 miles I’ve not seen the traction control light on once.
If that makes the F90 a dull car I’ll settle for that
theboss said:
jm doc said:
Well I use mine as a high performance daily and been across Europe twice in it already and it's the best M5 I have had in the 20 or so years of ownership.
In the 40k miles I did in an F10, it was almost impossible to accelerate in normal conditions without the TC light flashing away, that's despite the frequently needed fresh Michelins on the rear.
And why would you ever buy an RS3 "just to show Golf R and SQ5 drivers up" Bizarre.
The point above about “destroying” anything else on a wet roundabout - the F90 party trick that the RWD car can’t pull off. In the 40k miles I did in an F10, it was almost impossible to accelerate in normal conditions without the TC light flashing away, that's despite the frequently needed fresh Michelins on the rear.
And why would you ever buy an RS3 "just to show Golf R and SQ5 drivers up" Bizarre.
I’m still scratching my head because I use full throttle in my car all the time without traction issues. Are you talking about 0-30? F10 will always scrabble for traction from a standing start (stating the obvious) but once it’s hooked up it’s fine. How I ever managed with 750bhp and 0-100 in 6.5s for all those miles without incident, I’ll never know.
Wheelspin when flooring it at 70mph is quite common, even with the traction control on. It's not a problem - it is just part of the cars character. I like the fact that it is a bit of a handful as you can't simply jump in and mash the throttle.
That said, I do find that it's refinement makes it difficult to predict the exact point that you will begin to lose traction under power. That's also due to the throttle response in sport and sport plus, which is utterly insane. If the gearbox is also in sport it is like a sledgehammer.
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