'Delivery miles' on an F10 M5

[RichardM5]

I've seen somewhere that the max was 1700 for the E60, but also 1800 has been mentioned. You should be OK at the moment if either are true but I'd still be keeping the miles down if you can especially if the car is yours (as opposed to lease) it may influence it's second hand value.

[Thepaperboy]

I had my first service done early at 1050 miles as they told me it should be done before 1400 miles but they didn't tell me what happens if you go over 1400 miles!

[Googie]

It might have changed on the F10 but on previous M5 models run in service is at 2000km/1250 miles- it will be specified in the service book.

[RichardM5]

The F10 is the same, it's a question of how much over 1200 (or 1250) they will permit.

[theboss]

I had mine done at about 1650 having had to take a 500 mile journey at short notice just before the service. Spoke to the dealer to clear it and there was no problem.

[Pyrolysis]

RichardM5 said:

but I'd still be keeping the miles down if you can especially if the car is yours (as opposed to lease) it may influence it's second hand value.

Maybe just don't drive it at all. Keep it nice and clean, maintain it and take the initial depreciation hit. Just to make the second owner feel all warm and fuzzy!

[RichardM5]

Pyrolysis said:

RichardM5 said:

but I'd still be keeping the miles down if you can especially if the car is yours (as opposed to lease) it may influence it's second hand value.

Maybe just don't drive it at all. Keep it nice and clean, maintain it and take the initial depreciation hit. Just to make the second owner feel all warm and fuzzy!

That's not the point at all! Rear the post/thread properly and maybe you'll understand.

[Wills2]

Pyrolysis said:

Maybe just don't drive it at all. Keep it nice and clean, maintain it and take the initial depreciation hit. Just to make the second owner feel all warm and fuzzy!

They are referring to the running in service, which is scheduled at 1200 miles, one poster above has gone to 1600 miles, there is a cut off in terms of an acceptable amount of mileage after which you can run into warranty issues if the running in service isn't done.

To the rest of the thread IIRC anything below 2000 miles is OK, but I know that people get very picky on the second hand market regarding this.

[Helicopter123]

Wills2 said:

Pyrolysis said:

Maybe just don't drive it at all. Keep it nice and clean, maintain it and take the initial depreciation hit. Just to make the second owner feel all warm and fuzzy!

They are referring to the running in service, which is scheduled at 1200 miles, one poster above has gone to 1600 miles, there is a cut off in terms of an acceptable amount of mileage after which you can run into warranty issues if the running in service isn't done.

To the rest of the thread IIRC anything below 2000 miles is OK, but I know that people get very picky on the second hand market regarding this.

This is the key. The M5 has sold in good numbers, with dealer/BMW support helping so likely to be a good supply of used ones around for many years. IF (and it's not a certainty) that having the running in service done within a set mileage becomes critical to used buyers, then easy to walk past the car where this is missed/carried out later than ideal. Will be interesting to see the view of Mondial in time.

[CAPP0]

I'd accept it up to 12.9 miles, only if the dealer threw in the first service free, but anything 13 and over and I'd be heading to SP&L to ask about my rejection rights.

[W8PMC]

CAPP0 said:

I'd accept it up to 12.9 miles, only if the dealer threw in the first service free, but anything 13 and over and I'd be heading to SP&L to ask about my rejection rights.

Please tell me that's a joke?

[W8PMC]

Fulmentaljack3t said:

Picked one up 3 weeks ago and had 7 miles on the clock. Book your running in service immediately. I booked mine when i was at 1000 miles and it was over a two week wait, I still have a week to go and I'm already at 1600miles.

As others have said, i'm fairly confident it's ideally meant to be carried out at 1200 miles, however up to 1500 should be OK. After that i'd not be so sure as to how the warranty may stack up &/or resale desirability. The 1200 mile service isn't just a check up, they have to change the fluids the car was shipped from the factory with as their viscosity is different to the normal required oils to aide running in. IIRC, it's the engine & M-DCT oils that are changed.

[Wills2]

DCT is sealed for life they don't change the oil in that, they do however change the diff oil as well as the engine oil.

[W8PMC]

Wills2 said:

DCT is sealed for life they don't change the oil in that, they do however change the diff oil as well as the engine oil.

Ta. I knew it was engine & something else but wasn't 100% sure what the something else was. I didn't realise the tranny oil is never changed.

[Sheepshanks]

AMD1 said:

I collected my new F10 M5 a couple of weeks ago. I first saw it in the dealers showroom with 6 miles on the clock. I asked for a test drive in a M5 before I considered a purchase which they arranged. I turned up at the dealership for the test drive and the actual car was outside waiting for me. A quick 4 mile test and back to the dealership and paid my deposit for collection the following week with now 11 miles on the clock.

I think this reasonable, although if I hadn't bought it, someone else would have done so not knowing it had been driven on a test drive. I'd be OK with that some others may not.

It can be reset to zero if done before it hits 100 miles. So it's probably been out for loads of test drives.

[Wills2]

W8PMC said:

Wills2 said:

DCT is sealed for life they don't change the oil in that, they do however change the diff oil as well as the engine oil.

Ta. I knew it was engine & something else but wasn't 100% sure what the something else was. I didn't realise the tranny oil is never changed.

Apparently they do change the oil on the manuals though.

[L3090]

CAPP0 said:

I'd accept it up to 12.9 miles, only if the dealer threw in the first service free, but anything 13 and over and I'd be heading to SP&L to ask about my rejection rights.

I hope that is a joke also!

In fairness, if it is a brand new - built to your personal specification order then it shouldn't have more than 13 miles on.

I've sold brand new cars for MINI for a few years and I've seen brand new cars with 1 mile on off the transporter and some with as much as 21.

Sometimes a new car can be sat at a port for a few months as it has been built as a stock car and not assigned to a dealer.

Whilst it's sat at the port, it may be moved around thus increasing the miles.

Also if your car had 10 miles on from the transporter and then your dealer fuels it and the fuel station is say 3 miles away and that adds another 6 miles on the clock - are you saying you would reject it?

[Soov535]

Fulmentaljack3t said:

RichardM5 said:

You might want to stop driving it if your at 1600. At a certain point you will void the warranty, not sure what it is but your getting mighty close if you're not already over it (1500 comes to mind)!!

If that is true I'm going to be extremely furious as this hasn't been explained to me and the sales team knew I was going to be using the car as daily driver amdni do a lot of miles. I'm pretty annoyed that they didn't book me in for a running in service immediately or at least recommend I book it in straight away. They should know how busy their service department is.

I think you might have a serious problem here.

ALL M cars have to have the running in service within a few miles of the deadline otherwise the warranty is VOID.

Call them NOW and DO NOT DRIVE IT.


Didn't you read the service book?