My E39 M5 saved me.
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On Saturday I was told that my remaining grandparent would be deceased within a couple of hours. I grabbed my keys, wife and two boys and proceed to drive without any regard to any of the speed limits on any of the motorways or a-roads. I made it there with enough time to say my goodbyes. I just got back from the burial site and was reflecting on how my old knackered blood thirsty guzzler had saved the day. I will endeavour to now keep a car I can barley afford and remember this journey for my lifetime.
Life is too short. Enjoy your time whilst we have some.
Life is too short. Enjoy your time whilst we have some.
Sorry for your loss OP.
We made it to the gate just as the last few passengers were boarding the plane. We were just about to tell the 2 other friends already there to pull the left phalange trick.
xjay1337 said:
But I will say, realistically I'm sure you could have made it there in a 520d.
Me and 3 mates in my M5 were running really late for a flight after a crash on a motorway. A 520d most definitely wouldn't have made it there on time, it wouldn't have had the acceleration or handling to weave in and out of lane hoggers at 100-130 leptons.We made it to the gate just as the last few passengers were boarding the plane. We were just about to tell the 2 other friends already there to pull the left phalange trick.
OP sorry for your loss.
When my son had an incredibly nasty bike accident I bundled everyone in the car and drove, like you, to the hospital as if every second mattered. A few days later, when things had calmed down I reflected on whether it was wise to risk my whole immediate family's life, my licence and possibly my livelyhood by driving like a dementard to get to the hospital.
The answer was no, it was extremely dangerous to those in my car and to those around me.
Worth reflecting on that for a while when you have time...
When my son had an incredibly nasty bike accident I bundled everyone in the car and drove, like you, to the hospital as if every second mattered. A few days later, when things had calmed down I reflected on whether it was wise to risk my whole immediate family's life, my licence and possibly my livelyhood by driving like a dementard to get to the hospital.
The answer was no, it was extremely dangerous to those in my car and to those around me.
Worth reflecting on that for a while when you have time...
Upon reflection, I walked straight to ICU walk straight to the bed to see the morphine being injected. That was 5 minutes before the end. So perhaps it was not ideal to be driving above the speed limit however any minutes latter I am sure I would have not been afforded any contact at all.
With reflection it wss a memorable journey for which I am glad I didn't use the Honda Jazz. This is a car forum and I have always had a love/hate relationship with my M5 however I think the car will stay with me for a while. From what I have also noticed the car was derestricted.
With reflection it wss a memorable journey for which I am glad I didn't use the Honda Jazz. This is a car forum and I have always had a love/hate relationship with my M5 however I think the car will stay with me for a while. From what I have also noticed the car was derestricted.
sumo69 said:
Derestricted - so you were doing over 160mph on the public road with family on board??
If so, you are very fortunate that you are here to post.
BTW sorry for your loss but your lucky as driving like that she may not have been the only one...
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Devils Advocate Mode: If so, you are very fortunate that you are here to post.
BTW sorry for your loss but your lucky as driving like that she may not have been the only one...
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So nearly everyone on the Autobahn dies do they?
Its NOT wise, but it is also not necessarily *automatically dangerous*
Yes, the autobahners may expect high closing speeds but if it is empty / someone is taking precautions then its surely more of a "do I want to get on the early pages of the red-top tabloids being vilified and not be able to drive for 2 years" instead of a "will I die" question?
To be clear, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't like to be on the roads with everyone doing it in the UK either. However I'd also like to think perhaps it's not in the lucky to be alive category.
Edit: I am conflicted now... not sure how I feel about it! Its an E39 and not that modern. I was quite frightened when I got to 155 in my E36 on the autobahn...
BluePurpleRed said:
Devils Advocate Mode:
So nearly everyone on the Autobahn dies do they?
Its NOT wise, but it is also not necessarily *automatically dangerous*
Yes, the autobahners may expect high closing speeds but if it is empty / someone is taking precautions then its surely more of a "do I want to get on the early pages of the red-top tabloids being vilified and not be able to drive for 2 years" instead of a "will I die" question?
To be clear, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't like to be on the roads with everyone doing it in the UK either. However I'd also like to think perhaps it's not in the lucky to be alive category.
Edit: I am conflicted now... not sure how I feel about it! Its an E39 and not that modern. I was quite frightened when I got to 155 in my E36 on the autobahn...
You forget - the OP is also not level headed, most likely highly distracted and also not in Germany.So nearly everyone on the Autobahn dies do they?
Its NOT wise, but it is also not necessarily *automatically dangerous*
Yes, the autobahners may expect high closing speeds but if it is empty / someone is taking precautions then its surely more of a "do I want to get on the early pages of the red-top tabloids being vilified and not be able to drive for 2 years" instead of a "will I die" question?
To be clear, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't like to be on the roads with everyone doing it in the UK either. However I'd also like to think perhaps it's not in the lucky to be alive category.
Edit: I am conflicted now... not sure how I feel about it! Its an E39 and not that modern. I was quite frightened when I got to 155 in my E36 on the autobahn...
I object so strongly because these effect his ability to drive at normal speed, never mind 160 mph on uk roads!!
If you think that's remotely acceptable....
David
BluePurpleRed said:
Edit: I am conflicted now... not sure how I feel about it! Its an E39 and not that modern. I was quite frightened when I got to 155 in my E36 on the autobahn...
really??i was not scared even atall in my mitsi galant doing 193 mph an even then it was steady as anything.
ManicMushroomz said:
BluePurpleRed said:
Edit: I am conflicted now... not sure how I feel about it! Its an E39 and not that modern. I was quite frightened when I got to 155 in my E36 on the autobahn...
really??i was not scared even atall in my mitsi galant doing 193 mph an even then it was steady as anything.
I would agree with previous posters. Having broken speed limits most of my life, and driven at 170mph on the public road (alone), I do not have many problems with high speed in the right car on the right road at the right time.
I take the view that I enjoy driving fast, I'm willing to accept the risks, and I think my experience and training means that this is something I am aware there is a danger associated with, but I'm happy to do it anyway.
I generally drive fast on my own, away from built-up areas, at quiet times of the day.
However, I don't think I would ever feel comfortable driving at over 90 / 100mph on any road with children on board. I just think the risk of danger is too great, and there are no circumstances where this would be necessary. You are making a decision for, and have a duty of care for a small being who is too young to make these choices for themselves. It is up to you to look after them, not risk their life.
I'm sorry for your loss, but risking the lives of two small children, or depriving them of growing up with parents to look after them, is irresponsible.
I take the view that I enjoy driving fast, I'm willing to accept the risks, and I think my experience and training means that this is something I am aware there is a danger associated with, but I'm happy to do it anyway.
I generally drive fast on my own, away from built-up areas, at quiet times of the day.
However, I don't think I would ever feel comfortable driving at over 90 / 100mph on any road with children on board. I just think the risk of danger is too great, and there are no circumstances where this would be necessary. You are making a decision for, and have a duty of care for a small being who is too young to make these choices for themselves. It is up to you to look after them, not risk their life.
I'm sorry for your loss, but risking the lives of two small children, or depriving them of growing up with parents to look after them, is irresponsible.
M3Driver said:
I would agree with previous posters. Having broken speed limits most of my life, and driven at 170mph on the public road (alone), I do not have many problems with high speed in the right car on the right road at the right time.
I take the view that I enjoy driving fast, I'm willing to accept the risks, and I think my experience and training means that this is something I am aware there is a danger associated with, but I'm happy to do it anyway.
I generally drive fast on my own, away from built-up areas, at quiet times of the day.
However, I don't think I would ever feel comfortable driving at over 90 / 100mph on any road with children on board. I just think the risk of danger is too great, and there are no circumstances where this would be necessary. You are making a decision for, and have a duty of care for a small being who is too young to make these choices for themselves. It is up to you to look after them, not risk their life.
I'm sorry for your loss, but risking the lives of two small children, or depriving them of growing up with parents to look after them, is irresponsible.
Um....you have just called the OP irresponsible, yet have openly admitted on a public forum that you have broken the speed limits most of your life and have in fact travelled at 170MPH on a public road.I take the view that I enjoy driving fast, I'm willing to accept the risks, and I think my experience and training means that this is something I am aware there is a danger associated with, but I'm happy to do it anyway.
I generally drive fast on my own, away from built-up areas, at quiet times of the day.
However, I don't think I would ever feel comfortable driving at over 90 / 100mph on any road with children on board. I just think the risk of danger is too great, and there are no circumstances where this would be necessary. You are making a decision for, and have a duty of care for a small being who is too young to make these choices for themselves. It is up to you to look after them, not risk their life.
I'm sorry for your loss, but risking the lives of two small children, or depriving them of growing up with parents to look after them, is irresponsible.
You also make reference to making decisions for people who cant make these decisions for themselves......what about other road users who happen to be sharing the same road as you.....whilst your breaking the speed limit....or doing 170MPH...or God forbid your "experience and training" fail you??
You might be able to accept the risks, but what about the other road users who dont?
ManicMushroomz said:
really??
i was not scared even atall in my mitsi galant doing 193 mph an even then it was steady as anything.
Frightened is not necessarily a good word choice. I meant nervous or perhaps concerned as it wasn't the car or me, just I didn't think I would catch a blow out or some random debris at that pace.i was not scared even atall in my mitsi galant doing 193 mph an even then it was steady as anything.
I assume you mean 193kph unless we are on Gran Turismo with the Stage III turbo and adjustable gearbox? :P
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