M5 DMS driven (evo)
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A nice little read on the DMS stage 2 m5.
Am sure most owners now know of the tuning capabilities of the m5. 90% of you will probably think it has enough power!
Nice to see the BMW platform now just as tuneable as the Audi equivalents maybe opening the door to more tuners and developers.
The one tested is at 730bhp and torque capped at 664lbs/f to protect transmission which explains how furiously rapid it is and understandabley you have to adjust your driving style further to cope with the traction issues.
It's not cheap at £3000 but it's a lot of extra power and believe a few including the owners car have done 1000's of tested miles without any issue.
Am sure most owners now know of the tuning capabilities of the m5. 90% of you will probably think it has enough power!
Nice to see the BMW platform now just as tuneable as the Audi equivalents maybe opening the door to more tuners and developers.
The one tested is at 730bhp and torque capped at 664lbs/f to protect transmission which explains how furiously rapid it is and understandabley you have to adjust your driving style further to cope with the traction issues.
It's not cheap at £3000 but it's a lot of extra power and believe a few including the owners car have done 1000's of tested miles without any issue.
Huge tuning market for the M5 in the US, Evolve in the UK also do a remap for 2k IIRC, for me though the car already has too much power for the traction on offer in 1st or 2nd and sometimes 3rd, the way my mates RS6 walks away from me at the lights is testament to that.
Gilding the lily?
Gilding the lily?
Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 1st November 14:44
Wills2 said:
Huge tuning market for the M5 in the US, Evolve in the UK also do a remap for 2k IIRC, for me though the car already has too much power for the traction on offer in 1st or 2nd and sometimes 3rd, the way my mates RS6 walks away from me at the lights is testament to that.
Gliding the lily?
Agreed, no need at all as ferocious enough as standard. For bragging rights only. Gliding the lily?
600bhp is enough for a family saloon that looks like a diesel.
Wills2 said:
Huge tuning market for the M5 in the US, Evolve in the UK also do a remap for 2k IIRC, for me though the car already has too much power for the traction on offer in 1st or 2nd and sometimes 3rd, the way my mates RS6 walks away from me at the lights is testament to that.
Gliding the lily?
Agreed, no need at all as ferocious enough as standard. For bragging rights only. Gliding the lily?
600bhp is enough for a family saloon that looks like a diesel.
Whilst I understand the sentiment of "surely enoiugh is enough" I would say that there's a lot more to mapping than "bragging rights".
I had my last car mapped and I suspect I'll end up doing the same time to my new F10.
Why ? Well firstly because I'm a VMAX member and the only way to remove the limiter as far as I can see is via a map and secondly because a good remap can change certain characyteristics in respect of power delivery, rev limits. gearchanges etc
I suspect the folks who've had their F10s tweaked would have a useful perspective and would disagree that it's only about willy waving.
I had my last car mapped and I suspect I'll end up doing the same time to my new F10.
Why ? Well firstly because I'm a VMAX member and the only way to remove the limiter as far as I can see is via a map and secondly because a good remap can change certain characyteristics in respect of power delivery, rev limits. gearchanges etc
I suspect the folks who've had their F10s tweaked would have a useful perspective and would disagree that it's only about willy waving.
I'm with Wills2 on this one - for me at present, I just can't see the need for more power, but losing the limiter would be handy and I think it's a very impressive power hike for the cost.
I'd also be terrified that in the event of a drivetrain fault I'd be facing a huge loss without BMW's support.
I'd also be terrified that in the event of a drivetrain fault I'd be facing a huge loss without BMW's support.
S800VXR said:
My M6 has the DMS touch to this level and yes it's a handful in the lower gears but once moving its great! 1/4 mile time so far is 11.4 which equates to about 3.7 to 60 and mid 7 to 100 so well worth it if only for the mid range shove.
Will have to get a copy tomorrow and have a read.
That's slow. You sure you've got the DMS Stage 2 tune? 1/4 mile should be well under 11 with a decent launch & the 0-60 much closer to 3 secs with a 0-100 of mid 6's.Will have to get a copy tomorrow and have a read.
So pleased EVO have tested the car so will be looking for their stats with interest.
joscal said:
That's about right. Off the line the GT-R's trick transmission & LC would jump the F10 M5, but once rolling the M5 is a formidable force.W8PMC said:
That's slow. You sure you've got the DMS Stage 2 tune? 1/4 mile should be well under 11 with a decent launch & the 0-60 much closer to 3 secs with a 0-100 of mid 6's.
So pleased EVO have tested the car so will be looking for their stats with interest.
Not many stats are quoted afair So pleased EVO have tested the car so will be looking for their stats with interest.
Top speed of 203 I think but there just figures quoted by DMS I'd imagine. Sadly evo didn't fit there timing gear to it.
likesachange said:
A nice little read on the DMS stage 2 m5.
Am sure most owners now know of the tuning capabilities of the m5. 90% of you will probably think it has enough power!
Nice to see the BMW platform now just as tuneable as the Audi equivalents maybe opening the door to more tuners and developers.
The one tested is at 730bhp and torque capped at 664lbs/f to protect transmission which explains how furiously rapid it is and understandabley you have to adjust your driving style further to cope with the traction issues.
It's not cheap at £3000 but it's a lot of extra power and believe a few including the owners car have done 1000's of tested miles without any issue.
Should have mentioned that their Stage 2 is now a little stronger than the figures quoted above as they've reliably unleashed just shy of 750bhp & 700lbsft with a little fine tuning to the application of the torque.Am sure most owners now know of the tuning capabilities of the m5. 90% of you will probably think it has enough power!
Nice to see the BMW platform now just as tuneable as the Audi equivalents maybe opening the door to more tuners and developers.
The one tested is at 730bhp and torque capped at 664lbs/f to protect transmission which explains how furiously rapid it is and understandabley you have to adjust your driving style further to cope with the traction issues.
It's not cheap at £3000 but it's a lot of extra power and believe a few including the owners car have done 1000's of tested miles without any issue.
Come on article, appear in the Interweb now please.
S800VXR said:
I thought the times were OK, no LC, not particularly good track surface. I've seen yr vbox times and I think there out from the off point TBH. Mines at least as healthy as their own car at DMS and when I can figure out how to make my own vbox work with the bloody sun protection glass Il do my own times.
Would have expected them to be a touch lower, but if the surface wasn't all that good then they should fall.As amazed as i was with the figures, i after some investigation can't see how mine could have been out unless the device is overall faulty. Being a VBOX Sport it's idiot proof & only a few settings can be altered such as roll-out which i had switched off. Saying that it's only been used once so hopefully at the next VMAX i'll be able to get some repeatable data
If you can get a genuine 60-100 in 3seconds that would be mighty impressive.
Strange thing is all these tuned cars I've only seen Paul come up with actual data and everyone just calls it BS...
Be good to have a good comparison on the next run Paul ...
My running I service is getting done as we speak
Strange thing is all these tuned cars I've only seen Paul come up with actual data and everyone just calls it BS...
Be good to have a good comparison on the next run Paul ...
My running I service is getting done as we speak
likesachange said:
If you can get a genuine 60-100 in 3seconds that would be mighty impressive.
Strange thing is all these tuned cars I've only seen Paul come up with actual data and everyone just calls it BS...
Be good to have a good comparison on the next run Paul ...
My running I service is getting done as we speak
If you fancy going down the DMS route, call Tony or Rob, mention my name & forum ID (it's my vehicle reg) & they'll do you a much better dealStrange thing is all these tuned cars I've only seen Paul come up with actual data and everyone just calls it BS...
Be good to have a good comparison on the next run Paul ...
My running I service is getting done as we speak
S800VXR said:
What the man above says! DMS are very good. My only issue was my 60k car (allot of money to me!) was about the cheapest thing in the workshop at the time.
Always nice pawing over there mega machines Rob has in there. The UGR Gallardo is nuts & the 900bhp Cobra is a piece of art. Always very reassuring to be at the lower end of the Marque spread DMS work on. If someone's happy to have them working on their £100k to £250k car then an M5/6 is like bread & butter.
It's in the shops now.
Highlight sentence is 'low-down response is still very good, but from the mid-range the hit in the back is ferocious & the run to the rev-limiter is completely unhinged'. 'This car will spin its rear wheels in fourth gear'
Top speed is quoted as 203mph. This car although carrying the same tune as mine is outputting 16bhp & 36lbsft less than mine (both have been measured on the same dyno).
0-62 is quoted at 3.6secs without launch control so using a basic conversion that would put 0-60 around the 3.3 mark.
Highlight sentence is 'low-down response is still very good, but from the mid-range the hit in the back is ferocious & the run to the rev-limiter is completely unhinged'. 'This car will spin its rear wheels in fourth gear'
Top speed is quoted as 203mph. This car although carrying the same tune as mine is outputting 16bhp & 36lbsft less than mine (both have been measured on the same dyno).
0-62 is quoted at 3.6secs without launch control so using a basic conversion that would put 0-60 around the 3.3 mark.
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