Anyone know this Z4M ? PX06PYT / DSU992
Discussion
CoolHands said:
Any time a garage doesn't have the service info it is because there is none. Any talk of it being lost or lost in some change over of systems is complete b
ks. And the low mileage is because it is clocked. Some people need to become a bit more worldly-wise...
Umm, that's a bit harsh and an over-generalisation. As part of selling it as an AUC a main dealer should have done the following (straight from BMW UK's website):ks. And the low mileage is because it is clocked. Some people need to become a bit more worldly-wise...Verify car hasn’t been written off
Check for major accident damage
Verify mileage with HPI or Experian
Ensure no outstanding finance
Full service history
Anything that doesn't pass should be wholesaled or sent to auction.
BMW's computer systems have been changed at least once in recent memory and the historical databases do not always get transferred in full.
That said buyer beware is always good practice; my own AUC experience taught me that.
An MOT history check shows the following for the past few years:
Test date 30 March 2015 Expiry date 8 April 2016 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,952 miles MOT test number 1086 0908 5461
Test date 2 April 2014 Expiry date 8 April 2015 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,332 miles MOT test number 2788 3289 4065
Test date 9 April 2013 Expiry date 8 April 2014 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,797 miles MOT test number 2988 0989 3026
Test date 6 April 2012 Expiry date 8 April 2013 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,121 miles MOT test number 2984 1709 2022
So unless the car was clocked 5 years ago (doesn't seem likely?) the mileage is genuine.
Test date 30 March 2015 Expiry date 8 April 2016 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,952 miles MOT test number 1086 0908 5461
Test date 2 April 2014 Expiry date 8 April 2015 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,332 miles MOT test number 2788 3289 4065
Test date 9 April 2013 Expiry date 8 April 2014 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,797 miles MOT test number 2988 0989 3026
Test date 6 April 2012 Expiry date 8 April 2013 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,121 miles MOT test number 2984 1709 2022
So unless the car was clocked 5 years ago (doesn't seem likely?) the mileage is genuine.
AW10 said:
... As part of selling it as an AUC a main dealer should have done the following (straight from BMW UK's website):
Verify car hasn’t been written off
Check for major accident damage
Verify mileage with HPI or Experian
Ensure no outstanding finance
Full service history
...
BMW GB also told me that the car must have a full service history to be sold as an AUC. Verify car hasn’t been written off
Check for major accident damage
Verify mileage with HPI or Experian
Ensure no outstanding finance
Full service history
...
Unclear if this one ticks that box...
AW10 said:
An MOT history check shows the following for the past few years:
Test date 30 March 2015 Expiry date 8 April 2016 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,952 miles MOT test number 1086 0908 5461
Test date 2 April 2014 Expiry date 8 April 2015 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,332 miles MOT test number 2788 3289 4065
Test date 9 April 2013 Expiry date 8 April 2014 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,797 miles MOT test number 2988 0989 3026
Test date 6 April 2012 Expiry date 8 April 2013 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,121 miles MOT test number 2984 1709 2022
So unless the car was clocked 5 years ago (doesn't seem likely?) the mileage is genuine.
Nothing stopping a car being clocked annuallyTest date 30 March 2015 Expiry date 8 April 2016 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,952 miles MOT test number 1086 0908 5461
Test date 2 April 2014 Expiry date 8 April 2015 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 13,332 miles MOT test number 2788 3289 4065
Test date 9 April 2013 Expiry date 8 April 2014 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,797 miles MOT test number 2988 0989 3026
Test date 6 April 2012 Expiry date 8 April 2013 Test Result Pass Odometer reading 12,121 miles MOT test number 2984 1709 2022
So unless the car was clocked 5 years ago (doesn't seem likely?) the mileage is genuine.
In fact knowing a gentleman who offers mileage recalibration services he often speaks about his repeat customers
Kananga said:
AW10 said:
... As part of selling it as an AUC a main dealer should have done the following (straight from BMW UK's website):
Verify car hasn’t been written off
Check for major accident damage
Verify mileage with HPI or Experian
Ensure no outstanding finance
Full service history
...
BMW GB also told me that the car must have a full service history to be sold as an AUC. Verify car hasn’t been written off
Check for major accident damage
Verify mileage with HPI or Experian
Ensure no outstanding finance
Full service history
...
Unclear if this one ticks that box...
I can not say anything of the car in question but I sold my Z4M Coupe to a BMW dealership. It was a good car with a good history, but frankly the lack of checking done by the guy purchasing the car shocked me.
He didn't get under it, he didn't drive it in fact I can't recall if he even started it. But he seemed to want to beat me up because a window had been tinted by the previous owner. Very, very strange indeed.
Made me really question if this is the procedure used by BMW for checking cars before they buy them, what do they do if he accidentally bought a lemon? The thing could have been filled with diesel he would have never known until it was too late.
He didn't get under it, he didn't drive it in fact I can't recall if he even started it. But he seemed to want to beat me up because a window had been tinted by the previous owner. Very, very strange indeed.
Made me really question if this is the procedure used by BMW for checking cars before they buy them, what do they do if he accidentally bought a lemon? The thing could have been filled with diesel he would have never known until it was too late.
Tried to convince me it was fine. Only when I challenged the validity of the warranty, did it emerge that it couldn't be sold as an AUC car.
Then they made an offer to sell it at a lower price as non-AUC, which I accepted, before they turned around and refused to honour the offer.
All very bizarre and annoying. Interestingly the service department of the dealer has looked after the car since 2010. But they only lost the service book when prepping it for sale. A common issue, I'm sure. Particularly where there are doubts about the service history...
Then they made an offer to sell it at a lower price as non-AUC, which I accepted, before they turned around and refused to honour the offer.
All very bizarre and annoying. Interestingly the service department of the dealer has looked after the car since 2010. But they only lost the service book when prepping it for sale. A common issue, I'm sure. Particularly where there are doubts about the service history...
Why are you even entertaining the idea of buying this car?
My friend is looking for an E92 M3 and there's a cheap AUC one in Birmingham. Turns out it's had 4 stamps in 8 years: one running in service, two brake fluid changes ONLY and one oil change which didn't even have a stamp, it just had a dealer's name written in
So rather get hung up about it, we just walked away. You should do the same and look elsewhere.
My friend is looking for an E92 M3 and there's a cheap AUC one in Birmingham. Turns out it's had 4 stamps in 8 years: one running in service, two brake fluid changes ONLY and one oil change which didn't even have a stamp, it just had a dealer's name written in
So rather get hung up about it, we just walked away. You should do the same and look elsewhere.
Kananga said:
Tried to convince me it was fine. Only when I challenged the validity of the warranty, did it emerge that it couldn't be sold as an AUC car.
Then they made an offer to sell it at a lower price as non-AUC, which I accepted, before they turned around and refused to honour the offer.
All very bizarre and annoying. Interestingly the service department of the dealer has looked after the car since 2010. But they only lost the service book when prepping it for sale. A common issue, I'm sure. Particularly where there are doubts about the service history...
Sounds like you were right to walk away! Suspect they've decided not to honour their offer of a sale at a lower price because on reflection they probably think they'll find another buyer who won't do the sort of due diligence you have and hence will be prepared to pay more. Anyway, if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be; good luck with your search, sure the right car will turn-up soon!Then they made an offer to sell it at a lower price as non-AUC, which I accepted, before they turned around and refused to honour the offer.
All very bizarre and annoying. Interestingly the service department of the dealer has looked after the car since 2010. But they only lost the service book when prepping it for sale. A common issue, I'm sure. Particularly where there are doubts about the service history...
jayemm89 said:
I can not say anything of the car in question but I sold my Z4M Coupe to a BMW dealership. It was a good car with a good history, but frankly the lack of checking done by the guy purchasing the car shocked me.
He didn't get under it, he didn't drive it in fact I can't recall if he even started it. But he seemed to want to beat me up because a window had been tinted by the previous owner. Very, very strange indeed.
Made me really question if this is the procedure used by BMW for checking cars before they buy them, what do they do if he accidentally bought a lemon? The thing could have been filled with diesel he would have never known until it was too late.
I've never had any dealers do much with my trade ins, maybe I look honest? I just assumed they have enough margin in the generally low px value to rectify anything minor, or just punt it on as-is if not. He didn't get under it, he didn't drive it in fact I can't recall if he even started it. But he seemed to want to beat me up because a window had been tinted by the previous owner. Very, very strange indeed.
Made me really question if this is the procedure used by BMW for checking cars before they buy them, what do they do if he accidentally bought a lemon? The thing could have been filled with diesel he would have never known until it was too late.
Two of the last four cars I've traded in, the dealer didn't even start the engine, just looked out the window at the car, checked glasses guide, offer book px value
JNW1 said:
Sounds like you were right to walk away! Suspect they've decided not to honour their offer of a sale at a lower price because on reflection they probably think they'll find another buyer who won't do the sort of due diligence you have and hence will be prepared to pay more. Anyway, if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be; good luck with your search, sure the right car will turn-up soon!
Agreed. Just hope anyone about to get into a similar situation reads this and takes a cautious approach. Gassing Station | M Power | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff