new m6 owner advice please
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ian-163jt said:
regarding colour i like it so much, that when i see it advertised , I changed what car i was buying ha ha
weird that not popular, as my friend is a designer for car ads , when he pickd "launch colour" , which the red is , it has been researched to prove that this suits aesthetics of shape the best to sell... so in theory experts say its easily the best colour of a 6 series body-shape ..
what do they know ha ha
anyone want to swap silver /blue for a red ??????weird that not popular, as my friend is a designer for car ads , when he pickd "launch colour" , which the red is , it has been researched to prove that this suits aesthetics of shape the best to sell... so in theory experts say its easily the best colour of a 6 series body-shape ..
what do they know ha ha
Shaoxter said:
I had a 2 pipe mod done, don't like it.
face lift ... rear led ,, what a "ucking joke , i paid extra for that ...regarding exhaust mod , what didn't you like ? there is a company on e bay (cant think of name ) but if you search m6 exhaust price up to £1200 it will come up , thinking of getting either that or there s a used Borla system , there is a front section missing about 2 ft long which could be fabricated , its up for £360 2nd hand ...
cosworth330 said:
I don't think £17.5 K is expensive for an 08 plate M6 with 62k miles.
With regard to items that wear out , most V10 M6/M5 have had clutch & flywheel by 60,000. Mine was replaced at 39,000.
Throttle actuators fail due to poor design, nylon cogs wear. They are about £800 each for the part from the dealers and their is 2 of them. If it's just the nylon cogs that are worn then aftermarket kits are available to repair them at a few hundred pounds.
Hope you enjoy it, they sound epic and when on a charge banging up through the the box, just awesome.
Down shifts they rev match so it blips up as you down shift. Which is quite nice.
Like others have said be careful with exhaust options as most are way too loud and it will get on your tits after a while. I had the 2 pipe mod done by Paul and although it sounded epic I had it returned to standard after 9 months as it was too much for everyday driving.
thanks , thought everybody was saying i paid too much , so at 62k prob bits been done ..With regard to items that wear out , most V10 M6/M5 have had clutch & flywheel by 60,000. Mine was replaced at 39,000.
Throttle actuators fail due to poor design, nylon cogs wear. They are about £800 each for the part from the dealers and their is 2 of them. If it's just the nylon cogs that are worn then aftermarket kits are available to repair them at a few hundred pounds.
Hope you enjoy it, they sound epic and when on a charge banging up through the the box, just awesome.
Down shifts they rev match so it blips up as you down shift. Which is quite nice.
Like others have said be careful with exhaust options as most are way too loud and it will get on your tits after a while. I had the 2 pipe mod done by Paul and although it sounded epic I had it returned to standard after 9 months as it was too much for everyday driving.
Paul seems to do a lot of exhaust no wonder you cant book him for a month ? did you change to other exhaust or just stock one ?
so you dont blip throttle like manual on downshifts it does it self ,cool ....
jayemm89 said:
Maybe an air is mod might be more appealing to the OP? Some of the best sounding cars I have been in have had epic intake noise more than exhaust noise
i will have a listern as dont know about these, there is a boysen exhaust on e bay i have bid on 2nd hand , if not too much and i dont like i i can remove without wasting too much dough ..MarcelM6 said:
When I push the M button I have the shift level turned to max and use manual shift. Gets a bit jerky at low revs. Take it to 8000rpm and it slams your head back. Brilliant fun once you're ready for it
how many different shift levels are there ? If you put in sttings like shift level etc , when you turn off to the stay where you left them or default/reset back to factory mode ?MarcelM6 said:
Just want to say - these are brilliant cars and I absolutely love mine. I was going to keep a winter hack, but loved the M6 so much I got depressed whenever I drove the hack so got rid of it.
Part of the reason I love it is that is is highly strung and demands respect and care. Like a proper supercar should. And part of the deal is that when they go wrong it is usually expensive, although a lot cheaper than running a Ferrari/Lambo/Aston etc.
It's all part of the experience and I wouldn't want it any other way
yes that what i thought exactly !!!Part of the reason I love it is that is is highly strung and demands respect and care. Like a proper supercar should. And part of the deal is that when they go wrong it is usually expensive, although a lot cheaper than running a Ferrari/Lambo/Aston etc.
It's all part of the experience and I wouldn't want it any other way
people keep saying how expensive they are.. but even though i did not look at car or check before i purchased which is silly i know ..
I have got a super car / cheapness to run comparing to the other marquees you mentioned / manual gears for me / auto for wife 2+ 2 seats / fairly new for my budget/ cracking v10 N/A/ good build quality ? and very economical on petrol ......
we shall see , sold my 996 porker so will try it ...
thanks for gearbox settings will have a play
cosworth330 said:
In the first 2 years I owned mine it was 100% reliable with only issue being noisey sunroof seal which I renewed myself at a cost of £25 and the key fob range was poor so I renewed the diversity antenna myself £230 for the part. Had one puncture that required a new tyre. Servicing at BMW, the big oil service with SMG oil and diff oil change was about £760. Had a vibration on the front discs but had plenty of meat on them as they'd only done about 20,000 miles so I had a guy come to my house and skim them for £50 per disc, no vibration now. Also had the air con re gassed last year. A few weeks ago the throttle actuators were replaced under warranty which the dealer said was a £2000 job but I suspect it would be a lot cheaper elsewhere. Mine averages about 18mpg mostly short journeys, will do about 23 mpg on the motorway.
Mine is due brake fluid change, microfilters and MOT next month.
Did I read that your wife has a Golf GTI DSG ? My wife ordered a new 5 door Tornado red Golf GTI DSG with leather and panoramic sunroof last month. Should be ready end of March. She's never driven my M5 but that's because she's too worried what I might say if she curbs a wheel or whatever.
the throttle actuators are a big old cost !!!lucky you had warranty , i dont think i can get it as car done 62 k miles.... like you say, main staelers price , they take the piss really ....Mine is due brake fluid change, microfilters and MOT next month.
Did I read that your wife has a Golf GTI DSG ? My wife ordered a new 5 door Tornado red Golf GTI DSG with leather and panoramic sunroof last month. Should be ready end of March. She's never driven my M5 but that's because she's too worried what I might say if she curbs a wheel or whatever.
, ours was diesel gt version , great gearbox as long you don't park on hills , gears engage & dis-engage and gets very jerky , also the when at a junction in D , the car is not in gear , you see a gap , floor it but the gearbox takes about 2 secs to select , and sometimes with a bus coming at you its a long 2 secs.......sold it for a c class merc with normal slush auto that creeps along on own , smoother . maybe petrol gti better but try it ..the golf done about 50mpg driven hard , unbelievable really ..
Schermerhorn said:
Prices have firmed up, maybe even increased in the last few months? However they are still hard to shift.
Mine was a fully warrantied, new clutch, VANOS, SMG pump, throttle actuators and loads of other stuff had done, Silverstone II, excellent example (after all work had been done) and I struggled to sell mine for ages. In the end it went for £16750. It also had 6 months AUC warranty remaining too.
Awesome cars as long as they are fully fixed and miles away from any bills.
what year and how many miles /owners did you sell private ?Mine was a fully warrantied, new clutch, VANOS, SMG pump, throttle actuators and loads of other stuff had done, Silverstone II, excellent example (after all work had been done) and I struggled to sell mine for ages. In the end it went for £16750. It also had 6 months AUC warranty remaining too.
Awesome cars as long as they are fully fixed and miles away from any bills.
mine is 3 owner / red/ 62k miles / ok extras, so many its hard to tell if good ones on it or not to be honset? / £17k / not seen in flesh but mint (only left deposit with rest as described, but guy sounds really fair )
i think they will hold money ok as n/a v10 bit special in my eyes ..
w1ntermut3 said:
I looked at buying one of these and drove a good few used examples from 44k to the horrendous nightmare clocked 130k.
Important to call BMW UK CS, give them the reg and follow up the service history with the BMW main dealers quoted - they should be able to tell you when it had a clutch / flywheel. They will need one approx every 40-50k - a 70k car that hasnt had one or doesn't need one is a unicorn.
I also had a good long chat with Munich Legends in Sussex about them. 2008 will have the upgraded SMG pump so that's less of a worry. When it arrives get the engine pressure tested by an M sport garage. Check for jerkiness pulling off slowly in D, or even in first in S-something (sign the clutch needs replacing, but if replaced recently less to worry). Redline it in second a few times, check it doesn't drop into limp mode (the tech at Munich said that there were a number of pressure sensitive electrics in the engine management system that can go wrong and whilst not expensive require a full engine lift so labour-intensive) - however they will trip. If you can also redline it in third that would be better but anything higher and you'll be breaking many, many laws.
Best way to also look after the gearbox is to not slip the clutch gently in first. What I mean by this is (obviously, safety first) but try and engage the clutch plates firmly when you pull off rather than gently - give it a lump of foot rather than a very gentle pressure from a standstill and then ease - this will lengthen the life of the clutch by years. Obviously this is not a huge lump of foot as rear tyres aren't free, but look for positive engagement.
That said, I'm still looking at buying one (i actually think red looks pretty menacing with blacked out wheels), because nothing else I've tested seems to come quite as close to the sense of ludicrous pantomime theatre, whilst having close to 500l boot space and effortless comfort. Maybe a merc SL 500? Doesn't sound half as good as that v10 with an eisenmann exhaust.
Thanks for that , so 2008 is less of worry on 1 thing !!! bit lucky as didnt know that ha ha i will get test done by bmw & sort my pull away out , normally step on it anyway ...Important to call BMW UK CS, give them the reg and follow up the service history with the BMW main dealers quoted - they should be able to tell you when it had a clutch / flywheel. They will need one approx every 40-50k - a 70k car that hasnt had one or doesn't need one is a unicorn.
I also had a good long chat with Munich Legends in Sussex about them. 2008 will have the upgraded SMG pump so that's less of a worry. When it arrives get the engine pressure tested by an M sport garage. Check for jerkiness pulling off slowly in D, or even in first in S-something (sign the clutch needs replacing, but if replaced recently less to worry). Redline it in second a few times, check it doesn't drop into limp mode (the tech at Munich said that there were a number of pressure sensitive electrics in the engine management system that can go wrong and whilst not expensive require a full engine lift so labour-intensive) - however they will trip. If you can also redline it in third that would be better but anything higher and you'll be breaking many, many laws.
Best way to also look after the gearbox is to not slip the clutch gently in first. What I mean by this is (obviously, safety first) but try and engage the clutch plates firmly when you pull off rather than gently - give it a lump of foot rather than a very gentle pressure from a standstill and then ease - this will lengthen the life of the clutch by years. Obviously this is not a huge lump of foot as rear tyres aren't free, but look for positive engagement.
That said, I'm still looking at buying one (i actually think red looks pretty menacing with blacked out wheels), because nothing else I've tested seems to come quite as close to the sense of ludicrous pantomime theatre, whilst having close to 500l boot space and effortless comfort. Maybe a merc SL 500? Doesn't sound half as good as that v10 with an eisenmann exhaust.
Edited by w1ntermut3 on Saturday 23 January 12:56
yes i agree , its quite hard to get a car that suits needs , i sold my 911 but it had rear seats/ cheap to run/fast/looks nice /reliable.... only bad point about it was very hard with our crap roads & wife dont like gears ... ....
so i think i have a good compromise all my boxes now ticked. someone on here said its miles away from 911 but i dont think it is , yes its not a track car like 911 but i dont track .i also get nicer /luxury inside with loads more extras ...
cant wait for Tuesday
Schermerhorn said:
I was third owner.
2006 models (pre facelift)
Sold at 72,000 miles.
Car was still under BMW AUC warranty remaining till end of Nov 2015.
Everything that gets regularly mentioned about them going wrong was sorted.
This was mine
nice looking in that color , shame would have been for me , mine is a fcelift model i have been told , and its only rear lights that are different ?? bit strange if that's all ?2006 models (pre facelift)
Sold at 72,000 miles.
Car was still under BMW AUC warranty remaining till end of Nov 2015.
Everything that gets regularly mentioned about them going wrong was sorted.
This was mine
Shaoxter said:
It is miles away from a 911. Not saying which is better or worse, they're very different cars. The M6 will be much more comfortable, has a mental engine but lacks the steering and braking feel and will feel a bit more of a barge. But it's much quicker in a straight line, I think you'll love it.
Good luck and post some pics when you get it!
yes i know what you mean about handling/braking, i realize that i will lose that for things i find more important, must be getting old ! + I can carry a case in boot now ....yippieGood luck and post some pics when you get it!
ian-163jt said:
yes i know what you mean about handling/braking, i realize that i will lose that for things i find more important, must be getting old ! + I can carry a case in boot now ....yippie
How do you post pics on here , seems bit difficult ? i have one from advert as cant see what the roof is as looks like glass/black ? if i can put pic on somebody might be able to tell me what it is , someone said carbon fiber? is that an option ?cosworth330 said:
2008 model LCI ( life-cycle impulse ) facelift, LED front lights and back lights. Also the centre brake light was moved from the rear window to the centre of the boot lid. Brake light on the facelift is a long strip within the spoiler part of the boot lid, facelift M6 looks better from the rear. The facelift M6's are very thin on the ground.
Only 2 more sleeps to go!
ha ha 2 more sleeps ... cant wait for Tuesday ,why are face lifts rare ? been looking at the settings for driving home ? very confusing all this d1 or S5 ?? is there a thread that is simple to read ? how do i know if its face lift car , i know its 2008 but cant really tell if the lights are different to the rest of m6 i looked at ?Only 2 more sleeps to go!
with settings i understand you push m button for 500 hp , can you have a normal road setting (if so what are they ?) then the M button settings (if so can i have them ?) for play time ?? I have booked car in for muffler delete and some nice chrome tailpipes on the way home ha ha
thanks
cosworth330 said:
Do not use D1 it is tragic! Pushing the gear knob to the right will change from D mode to manual mode, push once to change and then again to revert back if that makes sense. Gear change speed button just behind gear knob, keep pressing until you are on the max setting S5 ( with DSC on ). Push down on the power button just in front of the gear knob so the orange light is on, this is the 400/500 bhp button, orange light on = 500. Use manual mode by tapping the gear knob backwards and forwards depending whether changing up or down ( took me a few days to get used to using the paddles ).
This mode will be fine for driving home. Don't forget they have a very small fuel tank and only get about 250-300 max out of a tank on a run.
Where is the advert and I'll tell you if it's facelift.
BMW simply didn't sell many M6 2008 onwards, they obviously weren't that popular by then, hence facelift are hard to come by on the M6.
Simon
oh i see , read loads of threads about settings but i thought it was all through idrive screen, so some things are buttons by gear nob and different gear stick potions,.... will put this setting in and play , cant work out how to put picture on here ? when my kids have time perhaps they will understand but its hard to do on P/H .....This mode will be fine for driving home. Don't forget they have a very small fuel tank and only get about 250-300 max out of a tank on a run.
Where is the advert and I'll tell you if it's facelift.
BMW simply didn't sell many M6 2008 onwards, they obviously weren't that popular by then, hence facelift are hard to come by on the M6.
Simon
w1ntermut3 said:
Go into the iDrive system you can set what the M button does, default I think is edc sport, 500hp, fast throttle response, S6.
S1-5 (and 6 in M Mode) are the severity of the manual gear change.
D is just "automatic" (but not really).
so the default on m button is pretty set up well then ? its just i read that you cant also have a default for normal drive , that the car re sets to i think D1 every time ? some other threads say that the car remembers but not sure ??S1-5 (and 6 in M Mode) are the severity of the manual gear change.
D is just "automatic" (but not really).
Bit of a pain if you have to change settings every time you turn off ?
Shaoxter said:
Do not get a muffler delete until you've driven around with the stock exhaust and are absolutely sure that you want to get it done.
Along with the ridiculous and unrefined sound you'll lose power and torque.
lose power ??? i read that quite a few people had this done , sounds good , cheap & is quicker as the cans are very heavy ?Along with the ridiculous and unrefined sound you'll lose power and torque.
I have heard a stock one and would like a bit more noise, but i did ask on thread & nobody really came up with good solution , i dont mind up to about £1300 ish for new exhaust but i wont pay £2k and over as out of budget ? there is a make on e bay that is about £1200 brand new
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111358083635?ssPageName=...
, but nobody answered to if any good , open to suggestions really ????
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