new m6 owner advice please
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ian-163jt said:
oh i see , read loads of threads about settings but i thought it was all through idrive screen, so some things are buttons by gear nob and different gear stick potions,.... will put this setting in and play , cant work out how to put picture on here ? when my kids have time perhaps they will understand but its hard to do on P/H .....
simonit is face lift model as just looked through my options list & has soft close doors (only available on facelift !) sweet....
cosworth330 said:
Never heard of that exhaust on e bay.
Eisenmann sport are good quality, probably over budget though. Eisenmann race will be way too loud.The cheapest new exhaust will be Hayward & Scott. A full delete of rear boxes will be too noisey. I put mine back to standard as the noise got on my nerves after a while.
ok shame about exhaust , when you purchase an exhaust is it the whole thing or just back boxes , i saw on e bay eisenman back boxes for about £1400 ? i will cancel my back box delete now .... i do like them too sound nice , the standard is way to quite for me ..i dont care if a get performance gain but i don't want a loss for the sake of noise ..Eisenmann sport are good quality, probably over budget though. Eisenmann race will be way too loud.The cheapest new exhaust will be Hayward & Scott. A full delete of rear boxes will be too noisey. I put mine back to standard as the noise got on my nerves after a while.
ian-163jt said:
ok shame about exhaust , when you purchase an exhaust is it the whole thing or just back boxes , i saw on e bay eisenman back boxes for about £1400 ? i will cancel my back box delete now .... i do like them too sound nice , the standard is way to quite for me ..i dont care if a get performance gain but i don't want a loss for the sake of noise ..
what about this exhaust on e bay , shipping is only £30 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magnaflow-16754-Cat-Back...
M5 London said:
Hey Ian !
You are spending a lot of time on choosing exhaust systems on a car you haven't even seen yet.
You also do not seem to understand that they come with a Carbon Fibre roof. I point this out as it seems pretty clear that you have not done too much research into the car you have decided to purchase (E63 M6)....which in turn leads me to believe that there are quite a few points about the car that you are not really concentrating on. I appreciate there has been a health check by BMW and it has FBMWSH, but in my opinion that doesn't really mean too much until you get the car back home and inspect it yourself or via your trusty independent / dealer.
Why don't you look at the car when you get it on Tuesday, then drive it around for a couple of months, making sure it runs well and there are no mechanical works to be carried out and then start thinking about exhausts etc etc.
I really do hope you have bought a minter and wish you the best of luck with it......but please lets talk about exhausts after you have had it in your hands for a few months and you are happy its all well and good !
yes understand but i have done it on impulse so thats it ..... now just trying to find out some information even though its late , but thats how i roll !!!!! so the black /glass looking roof in pic is carbon fiber , is this standard or extra as i have option list & not mentioned ? i have not looked in detail at another m6 so don't know if they all have this same roof ? You are spending a lot of time on choosing exhaust systems on a car you haven't even seen yet.
You also do not seem to understand that they come with a Carbon Fibre roof. I point this out as it seems pretty clear that you have not done too much research into the car you have decided to purchase (E63 M6)....which in turn leads me to believe that there are quite a few points about the car that you are not really concentrating on. I appreciate there has been a health check by BMW and it has FBMWSH, but in my opinion that doesn't really mean too much until you get the car back home and inspect it yourself or via your trusty independent / dealer.
Why don't you look at the car when you get it on Tuesday, then drive it around for a couple of months, making sure it runs well and there are no mechanical works to be carried out and then start thinking about exhausts etc etc.
I really do hope you have bought a minter and wish you the best of luck with it......but please lets talk about exhausts after you have had it in your hands for a few months and you are happy its all well and good !
Just because i buy things in the wrong way i dont get why so many having a dig ! The guy seemed good , it 3 owners (with the guy buying in off his work partner , it has bm history , he says its mint , some nice extras , 2008 , 62k miles it wasnt cheap /bargain ...someone paste a better deal and would be nice to see what i should have looked at !!
People on here say i paid too much but when i keep looking i cant see anything out there that is loads cheaper (if any) out there . so i have it now & i have heard M5 and thinks its wimpy sound for V10 , so i will change it whatever ,, If i have to pay for things on top again my fault.
I always get my cars this way , must be lucky .....
will go in exhaust place & see what they sell me ....
again what is the point of getting bm to inspect when the guy had it done before selling , there was an alarm fault , they changed something and that was it , surly i will be paying for same thing 2 weeks later ?
i hope i am lucky this time ha ha ..
AW10 said:
You really need to pay closer attention - a fool and his money are soon parted and all that. There's the minor item of import duty of $492 that you overlooked.
And others have said - slow down. You're talking about mods on a car you've never seen, heard or driven.
yes did forget that ... i have heard m5 and quite disappointing in sound from a super engine, had loads of cool cars but what hopefully is the best engine i ever had sounds like weak ..And others have said - slow down. You're talking about mods on a car you've never seen, heard or driven.
Till135 said:
I've bitten my respective tongue while reading this thread over the days but have to agree with M5 London. I'm all for impulse buying and hopefully you've done really well out of this and will love the car (I am a big fan of these) BUT ..... You have bought one of the most expensive and most complicated BMW's ever made without knowing it seems anything about it. The roof, gearbox, idrive, facelift, warranty issues ....... basically anything?
My hat is off to you for bravery.
For what it's worth, I think you've potentially got quite a reasonable deal and I like the red. You've basically currently bought a car that looks nice and goes quickly without knowing anything else about it.
Is this the definition of absolute Pistonhead!? Possibly! Fantastic but crazy!
thanks , that is me ..... not everyone s cup of tea , but i laugh at people that worry & take 10 years to pick a car ... pay your money & take your chance.. if we done things to not waste money ,we would not buy cars and spend on propery...My hat is off to you for bravery.
For what it's worth, I think you've potentially got quite a reasonable deal and I like the red. You've basically currently bought a car that looks nice and goes quickly without knowing anything else about it.
Is this the definition of absolute Pistonhead!? Possibly! Fantastic but crazy!
Got car now & its lovely ,carbon roof , soft close doors , mint inside & out , could not find a mark on it rang bmw and they say car has had all service & correct , the only thing is never had clutch but bmw so they dont go before 80K ?? everyone says 40k?
ah well its nice .....
Bodie390 said:
My E61 M5 sounds just fine with the standard exhaust and I would only replace if they needed to be replaced.
yes i know that makes sense , but would you put standard back on or upgrade ? someone was selling a 2nd hand one on e bay called "boycen" or something , when i looked into it, it was what BMW put on them from new .....Thanks for help & advice guys .....
Just to let you know got car, picked it up on probably worst day of the year. pissing down /gale force wind & 4 hour drive .
But that's the only bad news .... guy was great , outside car was mint( color very nice , better than picture & only 2 nd to a dark grey 650 i have seen !) wheels fantastic condition with minor minor age related marks, tyres excellent make /plenty of tread .. engine looked super clean & sounds sweet (i don't know a lot but its big & very clean !) service history all bmw on time , only thing being a bit picky is the car was his partners car in France for 2 years , so there are 2 stamps are in french (good as weather nicer so might have helped being out there!),he bought car back to sell as its right hand drive so don't sell well in France , it has 3 owners including the partner as he had to register some things back in uk before it could sell (so that added on the 3 rd owner on book which is a shame for 2 months ownership) new mot no advisory, inside like new , these cars either wear well or the people that sat in only weighed about 2 stone ! it is like a new car inside , normal extras (i am not sure what is normal but i will list some of the good things )hud , memory heated seats , adaptive lighting , soft close doors , carbon roof, tinted side windows .... not sure what leather as dash looks nice but think its plastic where i know some are all leather , quite nice though , its not got arm rest which a shame i do like , don't know what the roof lining is , but some have got Alcatraz or something , don't think mine has .
Thanks to guys who gave me settings for everything to get home as very complicated . The drive home was about as nice as a car could make of conditions and was lovely , suspension setting i forgot to put in so don't know what it was on but nice , not to firm but stable (Not a 911 i know , but no spine shattering either ) i played about with gears etc & struggled to get smooth changes all the time but OK , i was surprised that in auto mode it was not as bad as people had said , my wife could cope so that's all that matters .... Engine power nice , Christ it loves a rev.... didn't have m button pushed for longer than about 5 mins as not the day really but cant wait ..
always liked these cars but really is a perfect car for my needs, auto & manual/ 2+2 /boot for golf clubs ? fast / comfortable /looks nice/ luxurious ( fuel was 22 mpg but driven very carefully, but i have had yank muscle cars so don't mind 5 mpg )
so now we shall see how ownership goes ....
reading manuals/information as plenty to set up but didn't seem to bad , one funny thing in book , it states / to turn off select a drive gear then push start/stop button ? is this because there is no PARK position on shifter? what happens when you start , does it select neutral on its own when turned off ?)don't want to shoot through garage on 2 nd day ha ha ...
cant see the point of having gear speed button ? who would want slow changes ???
all in all lovely, is it worth going to good indy or stay with main stealer for work as car now over 8 years old & 60 k ?
don't think i could get a warranty now could i ?
Just to let you know got car, picked it up on probably worst day of the year. pissing down /gale force wind & 4 hour drive .
But that's the only bad news .... guy was great , outside car was mint( color very nice , better than picture & only 2 nd to a dark grey 650 i have seen !) wheels fantastic condition with minor minor age related marks, tyres excellent make /plenty of tread .. engine looked super clean & sounds sweet (i don't know a lot but its big & very clean !) service history all bmw on time , only thing being a bit picky is the car was his partners car in France for 2 years , so there are 2 stamps are in french (good as weather nicer so might have helped being out there!),he bought car back to sell as its right hand drive so don't sell well in France , it has 3 owners including the partner as he had to register some things back in uk before it could sell (so that added on the 3 rd owner on book which is a shame for 2 months ownership) new mot no advisory, inside like new , these cars either wear well or the people that sat in only weighed about 2 stone ! it is like a new car inside , normal extras (i am not sure what is normal but i will list some of the good things )hud , memory heated seats , adaptive lighting , soft close doors , carbon roof, tinted side windows .... not sure what leather as dash looks nice but think its plastic where i know some are all leather , quite nice though , its not got arm rest which a shame i do like , don't know what the roof lining is , but some have got Alcatraz or something , don't think mine has .
Thanks to guys who gave me settings for everything to get home as very complicated . The drive home was about as nice as a car could make of conditions and was lovely , suspension setting i forgot to put in so don't know what it was on but nice , not to firm but stable (Not a 911 i know , but no spine shattering either ) i played about with gears etc & struggled to get smooth changes all the time but OK , i was surprised that in auto mode it was not as bad as people had said , my wife could cope so that's all that matters .... Engine power nice , Christ it loves a rev.... didn't have m button pushed for longer than about 5 mins as not the day really but cant wait ..
always liked these cars but really is a perfect car for my needs, auto & manual/ 2+2 /boot for golf clubs ? fast / comfortable /looks nice/ luxurious ( fuel was 22 mpg but driven very carefully, but i have had yank muscle cars so don't mind 5 mpg )
so now we shall see how ownership goes ....
reading manuals/information as plenty to set up but didn't seem to bad , one funny thing in book , it states / to turn off select a drive gear then push start/stop button ? is this because there is no PARK position on shifter? what happens when you start , does it select neutral on its own when turned off ?)don't want to shoot through garage on 2 nd day ha ha ...
cant see the point of having gear speed button ? who would want slow changes ???
all in all lovely, is it worth going to good indy or stay with main stealer for work as car now over 8 years old & 60 k ?
don't think i could get a warranty now could i ?
MarcelM6 said:
Congrats. agree the weather was s
te today, not the best day for a 500hp rwd car. 22mpg - very gingerly driven I assume as I've never got betrer than 18.5!
Just leave it in gear when you park. You have to put it into N when starting.
yes very slow as horrible, i wont get that mpg ever again !!! , thanks how weird , we cant even leave merc in gear and turn off ?te today, not the best day for a 500hp rwd car. 22mpg - very gingerly driven I assume as I've never got betrer than 18.5! Just leave it in gear when you park. You have to put it into N when starting.
jayemm89 said:
Glad the car is decent, enjoy it!
I would take it to a knowledgeable independent if you have one locally. I have known a few BMW dealers to be hypochondriacs and it isn't helpful when trying to sell.
I don't know about the M6 but the regular 6 series had Dakota leather and it is very hard wearing. Not as nice as the Nappa leather of the E46, but durable beyond belief.
yes leather is so good ..... It effects re-sale i know if you use indy compared to main , but i wonder if when getting on a bit it makes that much difference , as we all know good indy better than main sealer for sure , personnel touch,fair cost you can get any Herbert at main , i know some of my mates have worked at main dealers & i wouldn't let touch my skateboard ....I would take it to a knowledgeable independent if you have one locally. I have known a few BMW dealers to be hypochondriacs and it isn't helpful when trying to sell.
I don't know about the M6 but the regular 6 series had Dakota leather and it is very hard wearing. Not as nice as the Nappa leather of the E46, but durable beyond belief.
cosworth330 said:
Re clutch, got talking to another V10 M5 owner who said he was on 82K on original clutch,so some do last longer!
so they can last ? Think i just have to wait , bmw done check and said no issues with clutch and they said weird if dont last 80k?? . regarding gearbox , not too bad , wifes merc has paddles but still feels a bit strange , i actually preferred shifting on lever, ok with not on auto but tried to lift of as you shift but where no feel like manual gears was not doing it at right time so made things worse ha ha....my wing mirrors don't seem to fold in on own ? is this extra or a setting ? do they have standard stereo or do they have an upgrade ? if so how will i know which one in car ?
it says on spec list dab tuner , cd 6 play, hi fi professional ?
another nice feature is carbon dash surround , makes it look well fast ha ha
it says on spec list dab tuner , cd 6 play, hi fi professional ?
another nice feature is carbon dash surround , makes it look well fast ha ha
jayemm89 said:
There was a guy who had a Lambo Gallardo on a fair few miles with only 5% clutch wear - I think they need care but can last.
Certain things will wear them very quick - holding it on a hill with the clutch for 30 seconds is probably more wear than two hours on the motorway.
yes i agree , i have a steep drive so was a bit of a struggle getting it smooth , looked liked a learner ...Certain things will wear them very quick - holding it on a hill with the clutch for 30 seconds is probably more wear than two hours on the motorway.
A guy on here gave me some good advice that makes sense , when you pull away .. step on it, so it engages & goes , no slip ....
Pioneer said:
There's a whole section over on Supercars about prolonging clutch life. In the Gallardo I left it in Sports mode and when possible always pulled away with a definite press of the throttle. Tried to leave a bit of a gap in stationary traffic to allow this. Into neutral and coasted to a stop from 2nd. Feathering accelerator at low speed, leaving in gear at a standstill and reversing (esp uphill) would knock miles off the clutch.
so leaving it in gear at standstill is better than neutral ?Shaoxter said:
Excellent advice.
I would also add that when parking, give the throttle a short stab and then use the brakes to control the speed rather than a constant light press on the pedal. Takes a bit of getting used to and make sure you don't crash when doing this!
yes i have tied this method , not good for me ... I would also add that when parking, give the throttle a short stab and then use the brakes to control the speed rather than a constant light press on the pedal. Takes a bit of getting used to and make sure you don't crash when doing this!
Pioneer said:
Correct. When stationary for more than a few seconds always knock it into N if you haven't already coasted to a stop in N. Sitting in 1st with your foot on the brake for any lengthy period is a big no no.
weir because on wife's auto you cant even knock out of gera when moving ?Edited by Pioneer on Wednesday 27th January 21:17
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