Nearly new M6 advice

Nearly new M6 advice

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Exige77

Original Poster:

6,518 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Thinking about a nearly new M6. Maybe 2015.

Can any owners / ex owners offer any advice on what to look out for ?

Running costs ?

Any must have options ?

Any problems to look out for ?

What's good and bad ?

Thanks

Jazzer

1,665 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Why nearly new?

A new one would be cheaper and wiser.

I'm assuming you're not actually going to buy one?!

The standard spec is pretty good.

I'm not sure if surround view is standard, but you'd certainly appreciate it when parking the thing.

They're actually quite economical and tyres, if they are MPSS, last a fair time.

Make sure it has a service pack on it to reduce costs.

I'm speaking here as an M5 man, but know the M6 well too!

turboman786

1,053 posts

186 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Depreciation will be savage on a nearly new car....not helped by the overly inflated Rrp and subsequent big dealer 'discounts'


S800VXR

5,876 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Surround view as its a big beast to park! Apart from that their highly specced anyhow so just buy what you want. I went on colour and non comfort seats as whilst the adjustment range is good the stock seats are fine and look far better IMHO.
Economy... Good for what it is and make sure it's running MPSS as you need all the grip you can get.

If it's a daily driver then get on good terms with yr local dent master as these things fill normal parking spaces and other road users will open their car doors onto yr P&J.

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,518 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I still think there is a significant saving to be had on a well spec'd low miles year old car.

Any thoughts on the original questions ?


S800VXR

5,876 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Thinking about a nearly new M6. Maybe 2015.

Can any owners / ex owners offer any advice on what to look out for ?

Running costs ? 21mpg average, service pack free although I personally change the oil every 4K. Nothing else to do really, it's almost boring if you like tinkering with cars.

Any must have options ? Surround view for parking. Soft close doors are nice as their big wings!

Any problems to look out for ? None that I am aware of, these seem urber reliable. Buy in condition really and what car you like.

What's good and bad ? Good, limo comfort and shattering speed (mapped it's off the scale), bad - far too easy to exceed 70mph so yr watching all the time.

Thanks

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,518 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Thanks, I'm rather excited now.

Thepaperboy

34 posts

106 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Are you paying cash? If you are not it will cheaper to buy new with the 0% finance and big discounts.

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,518 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Cash

Jazzer

1,665 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Why would you pay cash for it?

The aim is surely to get in and out with the least amount of money lost.

This will not be achieved with a nearly new cash purchase.

Dealers will think you're a mug and you will have trouble shifting it when you want out.

Be careful what you do.

Jazzer

1,665 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Why would you pay cash for it?

The aim is surely to get in and out with the least amount of money lost.

This will not be achieved with a nearly new cash purchase.

Dealers will think you're a mug and you will have trouble shifting it when you want out.

Be careful what you do.

12TS

1,806 posts

209 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I'd think long and hard about nearly new.

Broad speed are quoting 15% off list so bear that in mind when pricing.

theboss

6,878 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Thepaperboy said:
Are you paying cash? If you are not it will cheaper to buy new with the 0% finance and big discounts.
I'd have thought 0% on £60k+ is worth something to anyone, cash in the bank or not. It's effectively a manufacturer's subsidy in this case rather than in leui of additional discount.

Also consider the cost of an extra years warranty and part worn consumables vs everything brand new.

shadow1964

91 posts

157 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I would say go for it, I pick mine up next Saturday and can't wait.

As for must have options well as others have said these are nicely configured as standard,'must have' options are only in the eye of the beholder. When I was looking 'must have' for me included full leather and preferably champagne in colour, secondary options included piano black trim, soft close doors and comfort access.

I had no interest at all in B&O, CP and carbon brakes, all big ticket options but none I would gain any additional benefit from so was not prepared to pay a premium for them. Nice to have but for me not worth the money. That of course is just my opinion, I know many others on here place great emphasis on such options and would not buy an M6 without them which is fair enough.

You will often be told surround view is a must but I have read as many posts saying it is a novelty. I have gone for the reversing camera but not bothered with the full surround as I have got by without it before and parked perfectly well just using pdc and therefore for me this falls into the nice to have but ultimately not something I feel I will need or use so didn't bother.

As another posted mentioned if you are not a cash buyer the only way to go is new, it will be a lot cheaper and you get to choose what you want on the car. If a cash buyer for a used vehicle then fine just ensure you broker a good deal for yourself building in the interest in the bank factor. If buying new then a no brainer 0% all the way.

If you can buy one that is a year old it will already have done that first years depreciation which is nice but you will still be able to push hard for a good deal. As nice as these are they are hard to shift so don't be shy in driving a tough bargain.

The advantage of new is the fact you get what YOU want and as another poster mentioned you are not a year down the road in wear and tear and will cost you another years warranty. I looked for over a year for a decent 8-12 month old car, yes I had a certain spec I wanted which was not set in stone and not overly detailed/specific but still hardly anything came along that suited.

When it did (on 3-4 occasions)the seller(s) were in my view unrealistic on pricing and so nothing ever came to fruition. In the end I decided if I could drive a decent discount on new that was the way forward, yes a bigger ticket but you get what you want and everything is new.

Let's be honest depreciation is savage and is the same on new or nearly new, if anyone thinking of buying one is worried by depreciation I don't think they should be looking at all as if a concern they will never be happy and will likely 'out' it after only a short period of ownership. All they will have done is not enjoy the experience and end up with the worst result possible vis-a-vis money down the pan.

I managed a 22% discount but it did take some haggling and finding the right dealer at the right time. I felt that a reasonable deal and considered I left very little behind on the table, mine is a GC by the way. I have read posts where people say '30%' is easily achievable, pie in the sky.

A good deal you might consider is to look for the 'dealership principle' cars that are often advertised, these are 3 month old and 3000 mile cars which the franchise can get better discount on from BMW. These are virtually new and represent good value and are reasonably discounted (if buying an M6 or indeed any big ticket car can be considered good value).

I saw several of these come up but none near the spec I wanted. If I am going to spend £70k+ on a car it has to be as near as possible to my spec, if I buy just on price and not car/spec then I will not be fully satisfied. I am not going to keep it 8 months and out it I will keep it a minimum 3 years as I did my E63 so it needs to be right for me.

As to what to look out for on these, I would answer just what can be wrong with a 12 month old M6?

You know these are not going to be cheap to run, enjoy it for what it is, accept it will depreciate, accept it will probably fleece your wallet but hey they are a fantastic car, especially the GC. You are a long time dead I would say go for it but make sure it is the right one for you don't impulse buy.

There are those on here that will say don't waste your money on an M6 buy an M5 instead as basically the same car but cheaper. True it is more expensive but with that comes, in my view, a bit more exclusivity a much rarer bird, in my opinion the M6 has turned the tables on the M5 in that the new generation is a much better looking car especially the GC and for me that is worth the extra premium hence why I am picking up a GC on Saturday.....smile


Let us know what you decide and how you get on.

beemarman

179 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Very good response.

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Not forgetting the M6 was LCI'd (facelifted) last June so it has a much nicer front end / lights and nearly 10K of "free" options added over non LCIs as well as some new interior colours.

They're now coming up 7/8 months old.

Re surround view, I'm a bloke and I admit I couldn't park (well) without it. I find it just impossible to gauge the wheel positions when parallel parking alongside a footpath (which I do a lot of near home with nasty sharp granite kerbstones). Or when backing into tight spaces.

It's something about the angles of the door shoulder line and interior angles just don't align with the wheel line. It feels straight from inside, but when you get out one wheel is 6inches further away from the kerb than the other! The E63 AMG was bad but this is worse due to the much poorer visibility. As with the big Merc there will be little or zero feedback through the wheel if you brush a kerb, the first you will know about it is that grinding feeling/noise of alloy on concrete.

The Surround view is a marvel and IMO worth £500 extra (better than a couple of good diamond cut wheel repairs). Everyone who has seen it is really wowed by it.

It also includes the front end side view cameras which are really useful in rural areas to avoid poking your bonnet 4 feet out into a busy road before you can see.

Edited by mikeN54 on Tuesday 1st March 09:39

W8PMC

3,345 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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mikeN54 said:
Not forgetting the M6 was LCI'd (facelifted) last June so it has a much nicer front end / lights and nearly 10K of "free" options added over non LCIs as well as some new interior colours.

They're now coming up 7/8 months old.

Re surround view, I'm a bloke and I admit I couldn't park (well) without it. I find it just impossible to gauge the wheel positions when parallel parking alongside a footpath (which I do a lot of near home with nasty sharp granite kerbstones). Or when backing into tight spaces.

It's something about the angles of the door shoulder line and interior angles just don't align with the wheel line. It feels straight from inside, but when you get out one wheel is 6inches further away from the kerb than the other! The E63 AMG was bad but this is worse due to the much poorer visibility. As with the big Merc there will be little or zero feedback through the wheel if you brush a kerb, the first you will know about it is that grinding feeling/noise of alloy on concrete.

The Surround view is a marvel and IMO worth £500 extra (better than a couple of good diamond cut wheel repairs). Everyone who has seen it is really wowed by it.

It also includes the front end side view cameras which are really useful in rural areas to avoid poking your bonnet 4 feet out into a busy road before you can see.

Edited by mikeN54 on Tuesday 1st March 09:39
That. If any option is worth the money it's defo Surround View. I'm OCD about parking centrally within a parking bay & this option allows for this without the need to hang out of the door to check position. Saw the option first on an Audi S6 & decided then it's a must have for me especially on a medium-large vehicle.

theboss

6,878 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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W8PMC said:
That. If any option is worth the money it's defo Surround View. I'm OCD about parking centrally within a parking bay & this option allows for this without the need to hang out of the door to check position. Saw the option first on an Audi S6 & decided then it's a must have for me especially on a medium-large vehicle.
Agree - definitely much more than just a gimmick and appeals to my similar sense of OCD about parking 'cleanly'.

I also wouldn't be without adaptive LED; I believe these only became standard on LCI cars.

shadow1964 said:
There are those on here that will say don't waste your money on an M6 buy an M5 instead as basically the same car but cheaper. True it is more expensive but with that comes, in my view, a bit more exclusivity a much rarer bird, in my opinion the M6 has turned the tables on the M5 in that the new generation is a much better looking car especially the GC and for me that is worth the extra premium hence why I am picking up a GC on Saturday.....smile
As an M5 owner I look at the M6GC very admirably as besides being the sharper looking car I love the interior specification - extended leather, alcantara headlining, carbon fibre etc all of which cost a relative fortune in the M5 (enough to narrow the price difference substantially). The M5 is comparatively good value if you don't 'need' all those things and, more so in my case, it's the roomier and more practical car for 'family of 5' duties. Hope you enjoy your new 6 smile

Edited by theboss on Tuesday 1st March 10:53

NB13

53 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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The M performance exhaust is a minimum! The standard exhaust is bleh so if you can factor in the performance exhaust then try and push the dealer to add it! Also make sure they or an exhaust shop wire the flaps open so you get the full sound all the time or plug the vacuum lines so the flaps always stay open wink The standard butterfly valve restricts the noise too much imo. I was about to get the system put in but unfortunately wrote my car off the next week so never got to experience the best the car had to offer frown

M6 is a beast!!!! you get so any looks, it goes like stink!

Ill be buying another one in may 100%

likesachange

2,630 posts

193 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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MikeN54's M6GC is really stunning and probably the best colour combination. As he has said the LCI is the one to go for and 25k discounts along with 0% cant be ignored....

Dare i say it you can get a brand new M5 for £56k and 0% according to broadpseed...... now that is a bargain!